 Poster: A snowHead
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Having just returned from the Trois Vallees, I am wondering if this is the biggest rip off in the Alps? In Courchevel 1850 we were being charged up to 9 euros for a beer, and another guest in our chalet was charged 14 euros for a pint of coke! Can anyone top this?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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> e were being charged up to 9 euros for a beer
pint or half pint?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Half a litre - I reckon that worked out at about 6 quid a pint.
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Yeah,
That's a rip off.
It's about 5 to 6 Euros here in Les Arcs - (and that ain't cheap)
Zermatt??? - about 6 quid a pint two years ago.
Meg 
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Was also 6 euros for a hot chocolate, and 9 if you wanted cream on top!
Not everywhere was that bad, but they were the prices on the slopes. 1650 was a bit more reasonable...
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jab10001, it doesn't have to be that expensive in Courchevel. Perfectly nice places on piste-side are available with hot chocolate for 3 euros, there are moderately priced bars (in comparision to the rest of the resort), a panini and a drink for lunch can be had for around 6 euro. Of course, it's easy to spend your inheritance on a week's holiday in Courchevel. But you can also be there without blowing an absolute fortune.
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Yep, agree with that, we did find some good places. Unfortunately usually you dump your skis, plonk yourself down on a deckchair and order a drink, it's only when the bill turns up that you realise what you have just been charged!
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Courchevel is ridiculously overrated - expensive, lacking in facilities, not very interesting skiing (yes, I know it gives access to a big ski area but that's not really the point), full of strange people wearing dead dogs. It's only a so-called 'top resort' because Hello magazine says so and for some reason we all believe it.
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| chaletarc wrote: |
It's about 5 to 6 Euros here in Les Arcs - (and that ain't cheap)
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Sounds quite reasonable to me for France even 9 euros a pint doesn't make me wince depending on what beer they are serving (preferably not that dreadful Stella gnats wee wee or Heinenken). You would pay 6 euros in any major city in France for a half liter of tap beer (lager).
Beer at 2 euros a pint like you get in UK pubs is not the norm and probably explains why there are so many drunks on British high streets these days.
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I think it's more like 4-5 Euros per pint in British pubs, but I'm all in favour of nostalgia on that front!
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This is why I prefer Italy to France. Last week we were in Passo Tonale and a pint was around 3 euros. We wend to Madonna for the day and expected big prices, but I had a bread roll, a large portion of pork, chips and a large bottle of beer for only 13 Euro / £9.00.
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4-5 euros per pint in Serre Chevalier, depending on what you drink , ordinary Kronenbourg about 4,20 I think in Monetier-les-Bains, on the mountain about 6 I think. Plat de jour on the mountain about 12€
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3 years ago, a friend paid 10 euro for a 1/2 pint of coke in Courchevel 1850 
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You know it makes sense.
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| David Goldsmith wrote: |
| I think it's more like 4-5 Euros per pint in British pubs, but I'm all in favour of nostalgia on that front! |
When I was on holiday in Bournemouth last summer it was 1.50 for a pint of Directors in the local pub but maybe it is more expensive in London?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Beer's shockingly expensive in London. Maybe others can advise more knowledgeably - I don't go to pubs much - but I think £2.70 per pint is typical.
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Poster: A snowHead
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I've paid £2.70 for a pint of Stella in my local in Portrush!!! And I thought I lived out in the sticks!!!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Beer at 2 euros a pint like you get in UK pubs
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Wow! Where do you drink? Not in my local it isn't!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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In Courchevel 1850 we lunched several times on a very comfortable restaurant terrace just across the road from la Croisette, pizza, pasta, the occasional oyster or bit of steak, the odd pud, a glass of wine, coffee, and the bill was perfectly acceptable campared to UK, if not especially cheap, especially given the quality (which was first class).
Last edited by Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see? on Tue 7-02-06 12:11; edited 1 time in total
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Val d'Isere last week, we were paying between 3 and 7 euro for large beers, but mostly 3 to 5 euros. It is worth checking on "happy hour" prices. Some of the bars had chalk-boards outside with their prices listed.
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Val d'Isere has 4 supermarkets, three are Spars and they have to pay for lots of air-time adverts on Radio Val. It is worth shopping around between them to find the best prices. At Christmas we visited a big supermarket in Bourg St Maurice before getting to Val d'Isere. On a couple of items we found Bourg to be 10% cheaper than Val. A worthwhile saving on bottles of nice Champagne.
I agree with Arno about fruit prices in Val, they seem very high. Intriguingly much of the fruit is displayed in baskets that hold at most 20 pieces. This suggests to me that they do not sell or expect to sell very much of it. I wonder how much self-catering holidaymakers spend to get their 6 portions of fruit and veg per day?
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"No Escape" in Chamonix seemed the most expensive place I've been to this year (LDA, V d'I, Champoluc, Courmeyeur, Cervina, Morzine & PDS) to buy a glass of wine - €7.00 or so...everywhere else you're looking at €2 typically.
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I paid 22 Euros for a bowl of strawberries in 1850 last week - works out at 2 Euros per strawberry  Still was highly entertaining watching the rich in their fur coats, jewels and boob jobs!
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Last time I was in Val d'Isere I went to the Marche U supermarket and found virtually EVERY item on sale around €2 more expensive than here in LDA. I can't say about beer, but I would be shocked to be charged more than €3 for a cafe au lait or a hot chocolate up the mountain. Long time since I been to Courcheval - didn't think much of it and haven't returned!!
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I bought one of those tiny tubes of sun cream with a blob of lip salve at the end today, at Courchevel 1850.
13 euros  .
Don't know what the price is elsewhere but that seemed a complete rip-off to me, given the quantity it contains.
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| nuttyprofessor wrote: |
| I paid 22 Euros for a bowl of strawberries in 1850 last week - works out at 2 Euros per strawberry Still was highly entertaining watching the rich in their fur coats, jewels and boob jobs! |
The question that springs to mind is "why?"
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rob@rar.org.uk, maybe he likes strawberries? 
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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chaletarc, hmm strange. Just got back from Zermatt last week, and the most we paid for a beer was 6.5chf, around 3 quid, with most significantly cheaper. The Northwall bar was 14chf for a 3 pint pitcher.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Seem to be concentrating on Europe here - I found the lift pass prices in the US, East Coast quite astonishing when I visited a few times on the back of business trips. Stratton in VT was something like $65 a day a couple of years ago.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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PG, I bought one similar in Briancon at New Year, 7 euros or thereabouts , a small wax stick was 9€ in LDA in October (it was actually brilliant stuff too ).
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| CP wrote: |
| Seem to be concentrating on Europe here - I found the lift pass prices in the US, East Coast quite astonishing when I visited a few times on the back of business trips. Stratton in VT was something like $65 a day a couple of years ago. |
I think that's just the US in general, I get pretty p*ssed off when travelling there where every transaction is just an excuse to gouge money from you, pricing is clearly deliberately opaque and the obligation to tip ludicrous amounts for everything is very irritating.
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ise, too true...and all you can eat is carbohydrate!
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| ise wrote: |
| I think that's just the US in general, I get pretty p*ssed off when travelling there where every transaction is just an excuse to gouge money from you, pricing is clearly deliberately opaque and the obligation to tip ludicrous amounts for everything is very irritating. |
It is interesting, is it not, how different people can have totally different perspectives on the same thing? I regard USA and (more so) Canada as generally good value. You have to factor in tipping and sales tax, but that's not rocket science, especially when you're doing a currency conversion anyway, and most things seem to work out cheaper than UK (and Switzerland for that matter. They have their drawbacks as holiday destinations, but being a rip off does not seem to me to be one of them (lift passes are expensive, agreed).
My perspective on the the Swiss (as a frequent visitor, although not for a couple of years now), on the other hand, is that they regard visitors as a natural resource to be intensively mined, which they do extremely well, and enjoyably for the visitor. I once had my pocket expertly picked a Geneva railway station; the reason I didn't notice was that I had spent the previous week having it picked even more expertly by hoteliers, mountain restrauteurs and barmen. I know that there are cheap places to stay in Switzerland and that it's cheaper than it used to be, but it's no bargain to the tourist.
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richmond, I am in Verbier which is probably one of the more expensive Swiss resorts and I have found it surprisingly inexpensive. Obviously there are some places where you can spend a lot of money but if you avoid those then everything is fine. For example, yesterday I bought a pack of 15 33cl bottles of beer at the supermarket for 4.75 CH about £2.20!
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No problem Rob  . I forgot to mention I foolishly didn't ask the price before ordering! I'm off to St. Moritz in March, so will have to compare prices...
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aseeto, not bad. Switzerland isn't as expensive for Brits as it used to be (where is?). Mind you, I think that the worst value meal I have had skiing was a lunch in some cafeteria type place up the mountain somewhere in Verbier. It's not so much that Switzerland is pricey, more that the natives are practised in parting you from your cash while clearly regarding you as a kind of untermenschen.
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