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Winter tyre - TPMS

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I did my research but could not come to a conclusion how are people dealing with cars with tpms if they get a separate winter set? Just buy it too or ignore it?

I read that MOT fails if I have the warning lights on if I put tyres without the sensors
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Dacia have solved that for you on the Duster 4x4.
When you push the button at the end of the stalk that cycles through: mileage, range, temperature, time, etc... you come to one that says Set TP. Just hold the button in for 5 seconds, and voila the warning light goes out for the next 10 minutes of driving.
Rinse and repeat if you can be bothered.
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@Gustavobs, here in Austria we change wheels twice a year. Each time you simply reset the tyre pressure sensor.
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Just buy it too or ignore it?


Ignoring it. With my car you have to re-programme the car to the new sensors as it can't store more than 4 and that can only be done by a dealer (I'm told). The light can be switched off (again by the dealer) so that would in theory deal with the MoT issue, but as I'm not local to a dealership I've just left it on. When the MoT is due I'll be back on the summer tyres, which have the TPMS fitted to them, anyway so that shouldn't be an issue.
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Depends which type of TPMS
Indirect - Swap tyres or tyres and centres - press reset on the TPMS - all good
Direct - Only swap the tyres and make sure centres go back on the same wheel or get a winter set of sensors and either clone the identities from the old to the new or don't clone and reprogram the car ever time you swap or put up with the warning light on for the winter.

Could well be more methods but those are what I found out when I was looking.
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Before I switched to using all-season tyres I swapped between winters and summers on my Nissan Qashqui. When I bought the winter wheels/tyres I got them supplied with sensors coded to match the ones I already had. Just popped into Kwikfit one day and got them to check the codes on the summer tyres before I ordered the winters. Having done all that I later found out that the Nissan didn't care what the codes were at all, it could easily learn which sensor was in which wheel, presumably because the wheel sensors transmissions were picked up by receivers mounted close to each wheel.
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@Timc, makes a very valid point. There are two types of TPMS. I changed my wife's Audi to winters at the weekend, tyres and alloys as a set, and didn't even need to reset the iTPMS. Presumably this was because they were at the correct pressure.
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@Gustavobs

Kwik Fit fitted our winter tyres. TPMS on constantly after driving away, took car back twice but they couldn't find the problem. Eventually asked them to recheck the tyre pressures and lo and behold they had set them wrong. Much apologies later and TPMS all good
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Put the summer's in the boot. Presumably they work by some sort of wireless tech, so should possibly still work. Worth a go anyway Very Happy Very Happy
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martinm wrote:
Put the summer's in the boot. Presumably they work by some sort of wireless tech, so should possibly still work. Worth a go anyway Very Happy Very Happy


It's normal these days for the sensors to 'go to sleep' if they are not rotating to reduce current drain. So anything stationary in the boot will not be transmitting. This also means that a spare also equiped with a sensor will not confuse things as a fifth wheel.
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MyKeg wrote:
martinm wrote:
Put the summer's in the boot. Presumably they work by some sort of wireless tech, so should possibly still work. Worth a go anyway Very Happy Very Happy


It's normal these days for the sensors to 'go to sleep' if they are not rotating to reduce current drain. So anything stationary in the boot will not be transmitting. This also means that a spare also equiped with a sensor will not confuse things as a fifth wheel.


Good point! (Plus of course carrying around the size and weight of 4 summer tyres and wheels in the boot is hardly an optimum solution.... Laughing )
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Hadn't thought of that! @Alastair Pink, I was only thinking of MOT time Very Happy
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@martinm, Very Happy
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 You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
Two types of TPMS...
Sensor based systems in each wheel. These transmit the pressure to the monitoring system. They need coding to the car (otherwise how do they know it's not a signal from another car) but most can recognise which corner they're fitted to. The kits to do the coding were circa £700 last time I checked do not all garages have them.
The second system uses the ABS wheel speed sensors to cross check and recognise the extra revs if a deflated (so smaller diameter) tyre. These shouldn't be an issue having 2 sets of wheels. Most are resettable from the dash. Set the pressures, then follow the reset procedure in the handbook but they then need to drive a short distance to verify the setting before the light goes out. There are some that are preset (some Vauxhalls have preset standard, high speed and economy pressure/diameter pre-programmed).
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
@Gustavobs On my 2016 BMW, I've had to get a second set of TPMS sensors for the winter wheels and tyres. Whenever they are swapped or one replaced, I get them set them up to the correct pressure, then calibrate them by driving for about 10 minutes. After that, the individual tyre temperate and pressures are monitored and can be displayed while driving. Not sure what how the other systems work.

I know from owner forums that you can swap one set of sensors between two sets of tyres (as long as you don't mind the wear-and-tear involved), and you can run without them completely (as long as you don't mind an error message coming up plus no tyre pressure monitoring). I didn't think the downsides were worth it for the money I'd save on a set of sensors.
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