 Poster: A snowHead
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Heading for Canada for my first full season in a few months time and I'm slightly worried by my knee. Seem to have sort of a chronic knee pain on the front mid portion of left knee which as you can imagine is quite concerning when I've got 4 months of skiing and boarding ahead. Seems to come and go throughout the day, go for a run and that day will be worse than days where Im just weight training. Anyone experienced anything similar and know of a way to rectify QUICK? Any ideas will be greatly appreciated.
Edit- Iam booked into see the doctor but earliest they could get me in is 2 weeks from now!!
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Wed 12-09-18 22:34; edited 1 time in total
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Hate to state the obvious-but go and see a Doctor or find a good sports physio who may be able to tell you what’s going on.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@hazzacook20, welcome to snowHeads 
When I had 6 weeks in which to find out whether I should proceed with a ski holiday, and also had a 2 week wait for the GP, I was recommended to see Jonathan Bell at Wimbledon Clinic (he's on this forum) - I was happy to pay to get a quick diagnosis and realistic assessment from someone who is a skier himself. You might be able to persuade the NHS that making a living depends on your ability to ski, but I'm not sure how easy that is, nor if it will give you results in time.
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| Hate to state the obvious-but go and see a Doctor or find a good sports physio who may be able to tell you what’s going on. |
+1
This is what I have done on two previous occasions of hurting my knee and time being of the essence. In the first instance where I hurt my knee playing hockey and about 5 weeks before a ski holiday. Sure that it helped me get to a point where I was able to see especially as I later discovered I had partially ruptured my ACL repair. They did say they thought it was still intact (and it was partially). A few months later I went back to hockey training and it collapsed while sprinting. That cause my knee to lock and I was non-weight bearing. A&e sent me home with painkillers, and said see my GP
In two weeks.
I was in so much agony and unable walk or drive, that I paid see a consultant, paid for the MRI and a report saying I needed urgent surgery. This I took with me to my GP at the earliest appointment I was able to get which was 3weeks after injury! That enabled me to get a referral straight to the operating consultant under NHS. It was worth every penny!
Nb even the MRI report though my ACL was still intact, it was only when he operated to sort out the cartilage which was in parts of the joint it should t have been, that he found the damage, Jonathan Bell called it in discussions I had with him via here, If I were closer to him I would have used his services
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Private physio is not particulary expensive, worth paying for an assessment if time is critical. But they do vary in quality, so try and get a recommendation - if you post your location folks here may have local recommendations.
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Stop running.
It's just about the worst exercise you can do for your joints and is a mediocre (at best) exercise for skiing. Cycle or row, or anything else non impact instead.
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I wrote a big long reply but it was lost as I was working in between.
Succintly:
- stop running. Great for some but stpping has kept my knees functioning painfree after 20yrs when warned of replacement surgery
- see a sport physio
- even better book an appointment with a knee specialist at the local private hospital. You will need a letter from your own GP. About £250 first appointment, MRI about £500, follow up appointment £200. All guestimates
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One of the most common knee injuries is ‘runner’s knee’ or ‘jumper’s knee’. This is primarily caused by the high degree bending of bending that your knee has to go through while running or jumping resulting in a lot of strain on the front section of your knee, and, as far as I understand impact has very little to do with it. As you complain that it hurts more after running than other activities then it is not impossible that this is what you have but bear in mind that I have no medical qualifications. Anyway, if it is runner’s knee then unless you are landing a very large number of jumps, which does require a lot of bending of the knee then generally speaking it will be fine with skiing and snowboarding. Indeed, I had a friend who suffered from this very badly who reported that the only time it was pain free was while snowboarding. He eventually got it fixed through physiotherapy which has to be the recommended course of action although it is unlikely to offer you a quick fix even if it works at all.
For a bit of self-diagnosis, does it hurt more while walking or running or downhill but is pretty much pain free going uphill? And does it feel like it seizes up if you do some exercise and then sit still for a while? When running does it feel like the pain comes on as the foot with the injured knee comes up to near you bum as opposed to when your foot hits the floor? If the answer to those three is yes then it is pretty likely to be runners knee. Again though, see a professional.
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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Just want to be the first to recommend lemsip and masturbation. It may not fix the problem, but you can have a great time finding out while you wait for doctors appointments. Watch out for elbow injuries, nothing worse than doing yourself a mischief resting from another mischief.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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@Ski lots, the advice was for the OP, not you. Plus it isn't very hygienic to do L&M treatment while you are eating lunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@hazzacook20, lots of good advice above which I'll echo.
A) stop running, at least for a few weeks, and ease back on any weights exercises which strain the knees, which may include squats, weighted exercises, leg lifts & presses etc. Don't lose strength, but ease back. Try and find out if that helps, if something specific sets it off, etc. All useful info for any doctor or physio.
B) GP is not likely to be of any use, certainly in your timescale. If you can pay to see a local knee specialist for an opinion & tests, that's your quickest option.
C) Physio must be your best and first and immediate port of call. (Massage specialist separately may be 2nd.) May be nothing more than some irritation of muscle, tendon etc (doesn't sound right place for ITB but could be). Could be more structural, but a physio would know, not a bunch of online injury carriers like us! Find a local one who can assess you asap - specialisms in sport, legs or knees are ideal, but most private physios are good enough in my experience to give an initial diagnosis and recommend some stretches or give appropriate advice and referral as necessary. You can always try another if you don't like the 1st you consult; the initial consults will be useful and should offer treatment and advice in themselves. But don't delay.
Good luck.
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