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Speeding in France

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This just popped up on my FB... you will now get done driving a UK plated car.

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Shocked Is it just a fine or do you get points too?

Either way it takes the fun out of driving abroad.
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 Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
You got notified via Facebook ? Or do you mean someone else you know did ?
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Why would they send this to a FaceBook account? Why not to the legal address of the registered keeper? There's no connection between DVLA and FB. This isn't real.
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The person who received it posted it to FB, I also saw it.
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I must admit I think it doesn't look right, highly unusual that most of that photo appears to be in English.
My French speeding fines driving a Swiss registered car have all been in French with nothing translated - which I believe is French Government Policy for all official documents.
However, the website for paying the fine comes with six language options!
https://www.antai.gouv.fr/comment-payer?lang=en

It would be interesting to see the rest of that document, as French Law fines the vehicle owner. English law fines the driver therefore there should be the facility to send the fine to someone else.
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You can designate another driver or contest the fine by clicking the link on the site, which takes you here:
https://www.antai.gouv.fr/comment-contester?lang=en
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@WindOfChange, ah, maybe that allows the French to send the fine to UK citizens.
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@boredsurfin, I imagine it makes it much easier for car hire companies and means they can earn their €50.00 "admin" fee with 1 mouse click, and pasting your address from their file.
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My French speeding fines driving a Swiss registered car have all been in French with nothing translated

Not that long ago France did not have an agreement to collect speeding fines in Switzerland and all the Swiss cars used to speed with impunity (once reason for renting a car from the Swiss side of Geneva airport). The UK resisted collecting foreign fines for a long time, or giving out driver details to foreign countries. IIRC the Italians got around this restriction by employing UK dept collecting agencies to access the DVLA database and collect the fines. The demands would come in English. The DVLA now cooperates with our neighbours.

I'm not sure what the consequences of not paying the fine are, but then French speeding fines are quite modest compared to UK ones, you don't (AFAIK) get points on your licence and your car insurance is not increased.

While desperately trying to figure out why anyone would want to leave the EU one of the few advantages I could see would be the ability to speed across Europe and not get fined and of course to flee the UK after a crime and avoid a European arrest warrent.
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They have been able to send speeding tickets to the UK for many years.
After a trip through france in about 1990, a friend had a speeding ticket waiting for him on the doormat at home - whoops my bad going through Lyon late at night on the way down - but they had no means of enforcing across boarders and as he had no immediate plans to return to france he binned it & heard no more.
Is their reach a bit longer these days?
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AFAIAA, you can only be summonsed by an overseas nation for arrest-able offences.
Speeding (by a small amount) is not an arrest-able offence, so it's up to you if you pay.
But if you do not, be wary as the information might be held on some system and they'll get you next time.

I am slightly (30%) concerned that I might get a French ban, or at least some retrospective points.
I applied to swap my Uk license for a French one back in January. ( Project no-deal suggests that I might need to do my tests again in France if I wait until April).
I have heard nothing back, so read a few forums about the process.
The process used to be done in the local Prefecture, but it has now been centralised in Nantes and is a bit of a poo show.
Along with the many posts saying it can take up to 16 weeks just to get an acknowledgement, and 9 -10 months before the whole thing is done, there are some saying that I will get endorsements for offences which I have committed previously in France that can be linked to me.
I have been here for 15 years, so the 12 points I would have racked up is not that much when annualised.
I am hoping that if they do apply points retrospectively, then it's from the date of the offence, so that I will have a pretty clean bill of health.
I guess I will find out in October Smile
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In Holland we always get tickets from the Neighbours ..there delivered personally by our Dutch Police..sometimes 18-24months after

High Speeding in Belgium is a Fine and a ban from driving on any Snelweg (Motorway) in Belgium for 3-6 months and they normallyvspecifyvduring the Summer period..

Moral is...

Do you speed in your home country?
Why speed in others !

NB. I do not drive
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You know it makes sense.
Speeding (and red-light jumping) is just an occupational hazard in NL. They make it seamless to cough up, both for Dutch residents and those of neighbouring countries (and SEPA made it even easier still).

That French one suggested fake to me. I certainly have heard of people getting speeding/parking tickets from abroad from scammers, quite possibly due to UK's relatively lax regulations about making the entire DVLA database available to anyone who says "I am a parking scum company".
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Someone has forgot they drive a taxi
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@stanton, Most of my points are not for speeding.
6 are for jumping "dark orange" lights, and 3 for crossing a solid line on an overtake and then being chased by the Gendarmes for 2 KM until they caught me Smile
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@JonA, Crikey, I'm getting old
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@stanton, not sure how you manage to earn a living as a taxi driver if you do not drive?

Whether holders of UK driving licences can have driving and parking offences committed outside of the UK enforced against them is a complex subject. The basic issue is that the way the UK enforces these things is different to most other countries ie there is effectively a presumption of guilt rather than a requirement to prove who was driving. This means that many countries will not enforce UK penalties against their citizens so the UK will not reciprocate. This was all supposed to have been sorted with the usual EU agreement but the UK was very reluctant to sign up fully and then came the referendum..... So in some places, I believe this remains the case in Switzerland and Austria (but maybe wrong), speeding tickets can not be enforced against UK licence holders, though of course the hire companies can charge for passing on your details. In other places the fine is a civil debt which can then be sold to a debt recovery company who can enforce the debt in the UK (believe this is the case in Germany and Italy). Of course this is all up in the air post 29th of March too.

In most countries, eg the Netherlands & Belgium example Stanton has given this simply is not an issue as the various driving offences are simply mutually enforced.
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One simple answer to this is not to speed, and then you won't be fined.
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@Hells Bells,
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One simple answer to this is not to speed,

Sorry, don't understand your banter! Laughing
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Those French tickets make it back to the States eventually, too. Mine was in French. Ditto Austria, in German. I guess those "consequences" I told my kids about apply to me as well.
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It’s e45 and no points. I just pay them all, and always have. My lack of observation of the limit signs, my responsibility for the consequences.

As one of my friends once said “it’s like a special tax for driving fast in France”.

I don’t pay much tax here, so it’s almost like a voluntary contribution to the state Happy
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Hells Bells wrote:
One simple answer to this is not to speed, and then you won't be fined.
I was typing the same reply. I can sleep soundly.
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