 Poster: A snowHead
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I'm hoping the collective knowledge here can help me... The son of a friend of mine is finishing his final year at school, and would like to get a gap year job as a seasonnaire of some kind. Unfortunately he is Belgian, and pretty much every holiday company or ski job board I can find seems to require a UK national insurance number and bank account, which he doesn't have and wouldn't be able to get I don't think.
Can anyone point me in the direction of some likely employers or job boards or similar that would be able to employ him? I've found a few resort-specific websites, but nothing more general that isn't targeted at British people...
(Or even more unlikely, is anyone looking to employ a personable 18 year old snowboarder who speaks fluent French and Spanish, and very passable English, who's going to be spending the summer working as a waiter, next season?)
Any thoughts, tips or ideas much appreciated. Thank you.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I think he should contact the ski areas themselves and look to get a job working the lifts for example, with French as his first language he would probably better off doing that than some chalet job for example. Plus the pay will be better!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Plenty of resort jobs that don't have anything to do with UK tour ops. Pick a resort, find some accom, go knocking on doors/handing out CV's.
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My guess is that a British NI number requirement is not designed to weed out EU employees, but because of the non eu Aussies etc who may seek seasonal jobs via English speaking companies (that was my experience a dozen years ago when I did a season). While we are still in the EU, why would they not employ him. Surely he could get a NI number as a matter of course, just as he would if he came to the UK and got a job in Pret!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Sitter wrote: |
| Plenty of resort jobs that don't have anything to do with UK tour ops. Pick a resort, find some accom, go knocking on doors/handing out CV's. |
Yes, I think this is probably what's going to be required!
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Does he live in the UK or Belgium?
The UK TOs who employ seasonnaires as posted workers on UK contracts paid in pounds through the UK tax system will need a UK tax identification number for the employee. As an EU citizen I thought he's entitled to one, but needs to be living in the UK to apply for it.
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| Perty wrote: |
| My guess is that a British NI number requirement is not designed to weed out EU employees, but because of the non eu Aussies etc who may seek seasonal jobs via English speaking companies (that was my experience a dozen years ago when I did a season). While we are still in the EU, why would they not employ him. Surely he could get a NI number as a matter of course, just as he would if he came to the UK and got a job in Pret! |
I think it's to do with some pretty tedious legislation (esp. in France) about how to manage foreign (i.e. British) companies operating in France, but paying their employees in GBP or something.
Is it that easy to get a permanent NI number and bank account if you don't live in the UK or have any connection to it? Surely it can't be?!
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| mtsuit wrote: |
Does he live in the UK or Belgium?
The UK TOs who employ seasonnaires as posted workers on UK contracts paid in pounds through the UK tax system will need a UK tax identification number for the employee. As an EU citizen I thought he's entitled to one, but needs to be living in the UK to apply for it. |
Just to make things even more complicated he actually lives in Spain! But has Belgian nationality.
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He should try some of the resorts on the French Spanish border in the Pyrenees then, he shouldn’t have any trouble.
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Freeride Republic in Courchevel/La Tania had a French guy working in the chalet, so worth trying them...
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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When we had our restaurant in Avoriaz, we hired a Brazilian, 2 Dutch, a South African, a Portuguese, a Swedish chef, a few brits and even a Geordie lass, so I do not see why being Belgian would be a disadvantage.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I do not see why being Belgian would be a disadvantage
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To working in a restaurant or just as one of life's little burdens? 
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lol
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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A couple of months before the season started here, the local papers were awash with ads looking for season staff, from hotels to huts to lift companies. I imagine it's much the same everywhere. I'd start with these and avoid the British chalet seasonal staff model which is looking quite uncertain following Brexit.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Thanks all - some great ideas in here. Appreciate the help!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Perty wrote: |
| My guess is that a British NI number requirement is not designed to weed out EU employees, |
or is it so they can do the "detached employee" scam and avoid local employment legislation?
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