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I have never been to St Anton before and am debating whether staying in St Cristoph, particularly at the Alpenhotel, is a a smart decision. We like to be close to the slopes and do not like waiting on long lines in the morning so it seems like this is a good place to stay. Is staying in this area recommended? We are not into partying or apres ski...
Thank you for any advice!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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If you are looking for somewhere quiet with good lift access from anywhere in town, little to no lines, and north facing slopes, I would recommend Warth.
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We are pretty dead set on being near the train as we are trying to ski on both the morning of our arrival and departure. I will certainly try to see if I can ski over there though that sounds nice!
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@skiandgolfnut, St. Christoph is not near the railway. It's situated up on the Arlbergpass miles away from St. Anton.
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@skiandgolfnut,
St.Christoph is a separate hamlet, high up the Arlbergpass. 7 km from St.Anton.
St.Christoph is nothing more than a few hotels.
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Am I wrong in seeing on google maps that it is ten minutes by taxi?
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As far as I understood, it is a separate hamlet with only a few hotels, yes, but one that is ten minutes by car from St Anton and with easy access to the slopes. I definitely do not want to stay there if it is further than I believed.
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@skiandgolfnut, St. Christoph has easy access to the slopes, yes. It is a collection of hotels halfway up the pass that connects St.Anton to Lech and Stuben. I guess there may be taxis. Not sure how long they take to get to the station. If you are unlucky then it can be a matter of days.
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10 minutes by taxi when Arlbergpass is clear. The Arlbergpass is probably the snowiest road of Austria
There is 500 meter altitude difference between St.Christoph and St.Anton
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If the pass is closed it is also likely that the Stchristophbahn will be too so you get just three little drags to use. Also not a very pleasant run back from Galzig on 64.
I don't see anything going for staying there. In fact I've come to the conclusion over 12 seasons of staying in StAnton that there are better places to be like Lech, Zurs, Warth and Schroken. You can still pop to StAnton if you really must....
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Part of my issue is for 4 day trip I have been trying to get offers from hotels and have had no offers in St Anton proper for less than Saturday to Saturday, many even saying that they are sold out during that period. I know many people have had luck waiting until last minute, but coming from the States that just isn't so practical. It definitely would not be good to get stuck up there on either departure day or any day in which the lifts are closed.
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You know it makes sense.
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Does it often happen that Stchritophbahn is closed but the lifts in St Anton are open?
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Occasionally and usually not for a prolonged period.
From my experience, StC-Bahn closes more often from storm-level winds than avalanche risk. If the former happens, then usually most/all StA upper mountain lifts are also closed.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@skiandgolfnut, are you contacting the hotels directly or are you using St. Anton's website for this? I find usually that I have more luck contacting hotels directly. Still, the stories about KILLER last-minute DEALS seem like urban legends to me. To share my recent experience: I'm doing Mon-Mon this year and only 2 in thirteen hotels I contacted had anything to offer. (But most offered a Sat-Sat alternative.) One did suggest that I return later to see if there are any cancellations, but I didn't want to wait, so I took one of the offers received. It was a good offer anyway.
If you're willing to relent the requirement of being close to the slopes, you may have better luck. You can always use the ski depots by the lifts, which makes mornings easier.
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Try Pettneu or St Jacob. You'll have to ski bus it in but is isn't far from either terminal. On the day you arrive and leave I'd just ski out of the lockers at the rail station if you want to maximise ski time.
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BTW I think St Christoph is the definition of bleak and desolate ( as is Zuers) but doesn't seem to impact hotel prices. Stuben is far more cutesy.
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@Dave of the Marmottes, funny you should say that. I haven't ever actually set foot in St. Christoph (apart from catching the lift there), but from the inside of a bus, I think it has a sort of quaintness to it. Still OP, doesn't care about partying or apres, so perhaps "bleak and desolate" is a good thing?
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Have you tried the Schwartz Adler in St Anton, I've booked in there for a long weekend before, it is very good. I was also there a couple of weeks ago, guests were checking in/out all week.
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I reckon the drive form St Anton to St Christoph averages around 15 mins. It doesn't shut all that often, and when it was shut recently for avalanche danger the road to/from Pettneu/St Jacob were also closed (and the train for that matter).
That's not a common scenario though, and you need more than just snowfall for the road to shut - a mega storm, or something that pushes the avalanche risk to extreme levels.
Never say never, and especially the way this season's going who knows what could happen, but I think most would agree that you've got around a 99% chance of having no issues at all.
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@skiandgolfnut, decent hotel with spa, you just described the Hubertushof I linked to.
If you contact them ask for a package price including lift pass.
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I reached out to them earlier will see what they say. Thanks for the rec, they weren't on my list.
On a different note--off piste guide. For a private guide is there any alternative to paying the ~400 euro all the major outfits seem to charge? Are there dependent guys that maybe do it for a lot less than that? Safety isnt necessarily something I want to skimp on but its a big number and we dont want to do a group, we like running on our own schedule.
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The AlpenHotel is a lovely, quality small hotel with ski in, ski out service. (There´s a flat run to the Hotel along the cross country track, or off piste). I´d say, Go For It!
I worked my first seasons there. Since then the Hotel ownership has changed, but it still gets great reviews.
It takes 10-15mins with a taxi from either the St Anton station or the Langen station in Vorarlberg. Unless you´re arriving in the middle of a busy Saturday, there should be taxi´s waiting at either station too.
From what I remember 15 years ago, the Hotel´s spa facilities are only small, but very nice. It´s not a big busy Hotel so plenty of room.
St Christoph is a cluster of Hotel´s and restaurants between St Anton and Zuers via the road, but is linked to the St Anton side of the ski resort with the 4 man chair lift, just below the Alpen Hotel.
The chair lift is only really closed if there are technical faults or risk of avalanche. These problems get sorted out fast, as it´s the main connection for some top Hotels to the St Anton pistes. If there was a major problem, you can still catch a taxi, or regular bus to St Anton, Stuben, Zuers or Lech.
Okay, it´s situated at the top of the Arlberg pass, which does receive a lot of snow. That´s half of the charm. There is no real town to explore, but you can do that in St Anton or Lech.
You could get unlucky and the road could be closed for some hours (or all of) your arrival/departure day. But that could happen anywhere else too depending on weather and snow conditions. 2 weeks ago, St Anton was closed off while St Christoph was still accessible from the Vorarlberg side, for example. A few hours later pretty much every road leading to a ski resort in Tirol was closed down for the night.
These things happen, but not on a weekly or even monthly basis.
On the whole if you´re looking for a good Hotel, quiet, beautiful, location with good skiing access....I´d highly recommend it.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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thanks for that response that would be great if only they didn't email me saying there was a misunderstanding and that while I thought I was reserving two single rooms they thought I was reserving one double. So the Alpenhotel is out for now. Back to square one. Judging off of what Ive learned from this thread, I am basically going to book whatever the hell I can get at this point! Scared we will be on the streets!
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An update:
Unbelievable trip. Wound up taking some of the advice on here and staying in Stuben. After skiing in St Cristoph too this seems like it was a wise decision. Only 20 minutes from the st anton train (in good weather). Still very quiet but more of a charming feel to it with more restaurant options. Stuben was also a perfect base to explore the whole region. The flexenbahn makes it the perfect starting point in all directions. Stayed in the chalet hotel mondschein for 75 euro per night not including breakfast. This is not part of the main hotel but up on the hill next to the huberstuhof. You use the elevator to get down to the slopes and we ate breakfast there for 15 euro per day. The chalet was very modern and luxurious, i would highly recommend it. The hotel was great at coming to pick us up by van when we wanted to use the spa in the main hotel.
I will be back--the off piste skiing in the arlberg is difficult to comprehend for most here in the US. Next year we will try France.
Thanks for the help all.
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Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
Try Pettneu or St Jacob. You'll have to ski bus it in but is isn't far from either terminal. On the day you arrive and leave I'd just ski out of the lockers at the rail station if you want to maximise ski time. |
Yes, this is what I do and am doing again this coming Easter weekend.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@Kelskii, me too - want to meet for some turns/apres @ underground at some point?
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Poster: A snowHead
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@skiandgolfnut, is the chalet hotel mondschein owned/part of Hubertushof??
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
@Kelskii, me too - want to meet for some turns/apres @ underground at some point? |
That would be great - will pm you my number.
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