Poster: A snowHead
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I'm after off piste insurance for 1 week, I have normal holiday insurance through co-op bank. I usually get extra insurance via snowcard, but is there someone better or cheaper?
thank you in advance
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Based on experience of years ago - so do check:
Better: BMC. Very clear policy. Covered solo skiers (I know, we should always ski with someone off piste - but there were occasions when I didn't).
Adequate and cheaper: Snowcard. Was covered by them when I had an off-piste accident - and they delivered.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I have SCGB. Price is OK and off piste without a guide is covered.
The other things covered is good too.
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k1orange wrote: |
I'm after off piste insurance for 1 week, I have normal holiday insurance through co-op bank. I usually get extra insurance via snowcard, but is there someone better or cheaper?
thank you in advance |
If you're off to France adding Carre Neige to your lift pass may work for insurance that includes off piste MPI are my usual one, though having recently checked for my son Direct Travel are slightly cheaper.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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+1 BMC
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Cost is one thing. Delivery if there is an accident is another.
I use SCGB
My daughter went with Snowcard...which gives a lot of versatility over elements of the cover and has a good reputation.
Also worth checking out:
MPI
Fogg
Dogtag
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So does Carte Neige cover you if off piste without a guide?
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k1orange wrote: |
So does Carte Neige cover you if off piste without a guide? |
It does
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I use MPI at the moment but if I already had insurance and just wanted to cover off piste I would use carre neige.
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I had it with my bank for free (apart from my astronomical monthly account fee) for years. Checked with them this year and now it says I must be with a guide. I went with ASDA of all companies.
Maybe worth checking out?
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Asda insurance is done by Insure & Go. I would always be looking to have the directest involvement with a service provider.
There policy is "As long as resort management have not identified the area as unsafe, then we’re happy to include all off-piste skiing in our ski travel insurance policies." As ever there the definition of how an area is identified as unsafe will be open to question.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Has anyone got experience of claiming on Carre Neige?
It looks like it could be the ideal supplemental to my family travel policy, which offers cover for off piste only with a guide; Carre Neige would appear to cover side of piste and lift-accessed off piste but doesn't mention a guide, so I'm hoping it will give me that cover to pop off the side of the piste from time to time, rather than full guided expeditions.
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BMC every time , fortunately I’ve not had to call on them for skiing but ice climbing in Italy; helicopter rescue, hospital and replacement of my vortex which hospital had to cut off, no quibble, no payment up front and no hassle. Absolutely brilliant
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You know it makes sense.
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Austrian Alpine Club UK branch. Less than 50 quid a year, covers rescue for all sports under 6000 metres (Arctic / Antarctic excluded).
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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AAC+1 Covers off piste skiing without a guide.
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Poster: A snowHead
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AAC+2 Agreed.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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AAC+3. Doesn't cover the mundane insurance stuff like refunds for delayed luggage so buy an additional bog standard policy for that. AAC membership also gives you a discount on some accommodations e.g. the DAV Haus in Obertauern.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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MPI for a sensible off piste wording plus some flex in whats covered or not.
Also a very sensible medical section...
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tomj wrote: |
Has anyone got experience of claiming on Carre Neige?
It looks like it could be the ideal supplemental to my family travel policy, which offers cover for off piste only with a guide; Carre Neige would appear to cover side of piste and lift-accessed off piste but doesn't mention a guide, so I'm hoping it will give me that cover to pop off the side of the piste from time to time, rather than full guided expeditions. |
CN does cover off piste without a guide and I've read a few annecdotes of it's use. When being rescued you can just show them the CN receipt and that's it. Later expenses can be claimed from them. It's all on their website in English.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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tomj wrote: |
Has anyone got experience of claiming on Carre Neige?
It looks like it could be the ideal supplemental to my family travel policy, which offers cover for off piste only with a guide; Carre Neige would appear to cover side of piste and lift-accessed off piste but doesn't mention a guide, so I'm hoping it will give me that cover to pop off the side of the piste from time to time, rather than full guided expeditions. |
My ex wife did her ACL in Cham, many years ago. The piste rescue people scanned her lift pass and after that everything just happened. A quick form to sign once taken to the medical centre and that was it.
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You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
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I use Carre Neige to fill in cover for when I am not with a guide, as my bank's annual travel policy excludes this. It also gives peace of mind that, if something does happen, nobody will be demanding credit card details, etc., before commencing rescue or treatment.
The bank has confirmed that they have no problem with this overlap of insurance (as long as I only claim once for each loss of course - and in a recent claim for a child's non-fault accident, the first few questions were: 1. Did you get the culprit's details? 2. Was it on or off piste? 3. Do you have any other insurance coverage?).
But do be aware that the limit of Carre Neige's cover is €50,000. This is plenty for normal resort rescue, helicopters and broken limbs, but might fall short for things like prolonged intensive care, serious head injuries, coma, etc. (although I would hope that someone gets me back to the UK if it is as bad as all that).
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To get carte neige do you just get it with your lift pass?
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k1orange wrote: |
To get carte neige do you just get it with your lift pass? |
Yes.
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Isn't Carré Neige what you can buy with your lift pass, whereas Carte Neige is the annual thing? Must admit I tend to get confused between the two.
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achilles wrote: |
Isn't Carré Neige what you can buy with your lift pass, whereas Carte Neige is the annual thing? |
Correct
achilles wrote: |
Must admit I tend to get confused between the two. |
Who wouldn't - it's rubbish product naming.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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I'd go with MPI
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Arghhh
Where are you going? Europe? France? USA / Canada? Japan??
I have spent hours and hours on ski insurance over the last few months.
IMHO-
1. MPI very good value and sensible re off piste and medical declarations / cover. Also covers races like the Infurno as standard.
2. Dogtag- very expensive- nice branding and well dogtag
3. SCGB expensive- no option for racing
4. Fogg reasonable.
5. Direct Travel- have used in past
6. Carre Neige (with lift pass) - bought by the day with the lift pass in France
7. Carte Neige- bought by the year - 3 levels - covers off piste (and rock climbing for a supplement). Very cheap- but it IS NOT TRAVEL INSURANCE- it is just ski / training insurance. ie if you break your leg skiing- you are covered, but if you break your leg falling down the chalet stairs you aren't.
8. BMC / AAC beloved by climbers
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