 Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Strangely hypnotic as well as being slightly strange. Interesting to note that the path the skis take on piste (zig-zag path as a result of a quick pivoted turn followed by a speed check) is different to the path the skis take when they ski in untracked snow (much more of a rounded turn, with much less of a speed check) despite the body movements looking similar.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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It's like looking at me ski through a kaleidoscope!
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I noticed that too - powder skiing looks pretty similar to skiing a slow speed fall line, the on hardpack is a lot more forced. If we're being constructive I think the basic wedel model still has a lot to recommend it for a playaround with as it will enhance mogul and powder skills even if it is superfluous these days for piste skiing and anachronistic stance wise.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
| I noticed that too - powder skiing looks pretty similar to skiing a slow speed fall line, the on hardpack is a lot more forced. If we're being constructive I think the basic wedel model still has a lot to recommend it for a playaround with as it will enhance mogul and powder skills even if it is superfluous these days for piste skiing and anachronistic stance wise. |
The difficulty of using a wedel turn as practice for moguls is that it encourages a very pronounced 'pop' up at the start of the turn - the last thing you need when skiing bumps. You also have a lingering memory of that godawful music echoing around your brain, and that's enough to kills any semblance of decent ski technique.
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Guess I'm not seeing the pop as that pronounced and I didn't say use wedel turn as "the" technique. Just I suspect that anyone who can do a passable wedel on modern skis is well on their way to having enough rotary skills and timing to make a decent attempt at bumps
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| rob@rar wrote: |
| Strangely hypnotic as well as being slightly strange. Interesting to note that the path the skis take on piste (zig-zag path as a result of a quick pivoted turn followed by a speed check) is different to the path the skis take when they ski in untracked snow (much more of a rounded turn, with much less of a speed check) despite the body movements looking similar. |
They're skiing on narrow skis and for most of the footage the skis and their legs are below the snow surface.
This immersion in the snow creates resistance around the skis and legs hence less need to make an exaggerated speed check at the end of the turn and a more rounded turn shape in the fall line.
Last edited by Then you can post your own questions or snow reports... on Thu 16-11-17 23:41; edited 1 time in total
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I was taught by a French guy who would wedel our dry slope without the skis losing any contact with the surface at all. I think if they're bouncing then that's not necessary, depending on the slope conditions.
The powder turns there look like standard powder turns to me.
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I suspect it is not taught any more ? The advantage of Wedeln is being able to ski a fall line in good control and inside a ski length. That is useful for tight lines and crowded pistes. It was probably more necessary in the days of moguled runs and narrow un-winched pistes. 
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Ah those where the days - the creators of great moguls - its easy to see how large, fall line moguls where made.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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The girl I skied with last winter has very good technique. She skis on narrow skis so when we are in the powder she is doing almost Wendel turns while my turns, (my tracks on the left) are quite long. I think she has gone for some 82s this winter which will seem wide for her.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Just saw this thread.
Interestingly, one of the drills my daughter was taught last year in the ESF (2e etoile) is wedeln (wagging or waving auf deutsch). I tried to follow her and it's really hard on deep sidecut skies, obviously. She said it was for balance.
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