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Morning all,
I've been playing with transfer options between Munich airport and Saalbach. Having decided transfer bus is too much and I simply cannot be fussed with mafia that is car hire firms I started to look at train tickets and found the following:
Munich Airport to Zell am See - 28th Jan 09:04
www.bahn.com (German) = EUR 57.70
www.oebb.at (Austrian) = EUR 19.00
Zell am See to Munich Airport - 4th Feb 13:44
www.bahn.com (German) = EUR 57.70
www.oebb.at (Austrian) = EUR 53.00
As you can see it works out a fair bit cheaper (EUR 43.44!!) booking the tickets via the Austrian rail office then it does the German office. Other then Switzerland I've never used European trains before so wondered if there will be an issue with me booking an Austrian train ticket to start my journey in Germany? the fact it lets me buy it one would think not, but just wondered if anyone has any more informed advise?
Cheers 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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There should be no difference.
Are you sure you are looking at the same train, time, and ticket type? The sort of figures you have quoted are typical of the difference between fixed and flexible tickets. The former is restricted to a specific train, on a specific day/time, while the latter lets you travel within a 2 day window.
We regularly travel between Zurich and St Anton, and I will use either the SBB or OEBB websites, depending on my mood. No difference in cost.
Bottom line: there will be no problems with buying a Germany to Austria ticket from either national train service.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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What he says^^^^^. The other small diff will be reserved seats included or excluded.
Maybe Austrian has some saver tickets where dbahn didn't on outward leg? Which is odd but possible
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@scyco, it's a 'Sparschiene Ticket', meaning 'Means of transport and departure date and time are fixed. Cancellation not possible'.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Ahhh thanks all. I knew I was missing something. Still based on flight timings with Swiss and cost saving I guess it's worth the gamble of having a fixed train. 
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| scyco wrote: |
Morning all,
I've been playing with transfer options between Munich airport and Saalbach. Having decided transfer bus is too much and I simply cannot be fussed with mafia that is car hire firms I started to look at train tickets and found the following:
Munich Airport to Zell am See - 28th Jan 09:04
www.bahn.com (German) = EUR 57.70
www.oebb.at (Austrian) = EUR 19.00
Zell am See to Munich Airport - 4th Feb 13:44
www.bahn.com (German) = EUR 57.70
www.oebb.at (Austrian) = EUR 53.00
As you can see it works out a fair bit cheaper (EUR 43.44!!) booking the tickets via the Austrian rail office then it does the German office. Other then Switzerland I've never used European trains before so wondered if there will be an issue with me booking an Austrian train ticket to start my journey in Germany? the fact it lets me buy it one would think not, but just wondered if anyone has any more informed advise?
Cheers |
Just a quick question? How many of you are there?
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Two of us...
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| scyco wrote: |
Morning all,
I've been playing with transfer options between Munich airport and Saalbach. Having decided transfer bus is too much and I simply cannot be fussed with mafia that is car hire firms I started to look at train tickets and found the following:
Munich Airport to Zell am See - 28th Jan 09:04
www.bahn.com (German) = EUR 57.70
www.oebb.at (Austrian) = EUR 19.00
Zell am See to Munich Airport - 4th Feb 13:44
www.bahn.com (German) = EUR 57.70
www.oebb.at (Austrian) = EUR 53.00
As you can see it works out a fair bit cheaper (EUR 43.44!!) booking the tickets via the Austrian rail office then it does the German office. Other then Switzerland I've never used European trains before so wondered if there will be an issue with me booking an Austrian train ticket to start my journey in Germany? the fact it lets me buy it one would think not, but just wondered if anyone has any more informed advise?
Cheers |
Just a quick question? How many of you are there? |
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There is a Bayern ticket that would get you from Munich airport to Salzburg/Kufstein. Thats about 24 euros for the first person and 3/4 euros for every one else up to 5 I think. But you`d still need a ticket from Salzburg to Zell. So for about 30 euros each way, youd have a ticket to and from MUnich to your entry into Austria, then an extra ticket to Zell. They are not time restricting and can be bought freely on arrival at Munich airport. The only caveat for them is they are not for use on the faster Inter city type trains.
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The Bayern ticket is particularly good for groups. There is an equivalent Austrian ticket you would have to buy on the station in Austria. Again fast trains are not covered but the regional trains are.
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Yup, I always get a Bayern ticket from Munich to Salz and then just buy the final stage Austrian ticket. Even for a single person travelling it is usually a bit cheaper than any other option.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Thanks all, the info ref the Bayern ticket is very useful!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@scyco, on the Austrian railways site you want yo check it includes the whole route and not just section.
If travelling on a Saturday between Jan & March .. Austrian railjet operates a new service. Ftom Munich to Feldkirch calling st Salzburg , Innsbruck St Anton various other stops
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About to do a Munich trip ... should I book online and do they do a printable ticket if so?
Munich to Westendorf
advice appreciated 
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You know it makes sense.
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I always book online but you don't have to. If you do you can print your ticket.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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You can only my the much cheaper saver / fixed train ticket in advance, so if you are pretty sure on your train times then u need to do that online. Flexible ticket I think is same online as walk up price. To b ehonest why wouldn't you do it in advance and print it out, saves a job at the station and if time is tight and queues are long.......
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Poster: A snowHead
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If you do pre-print ticket, be aware that you must have the exact same credit/debit card present with you on the train. The ticket inspector scans the 2D barcode on the print and swipes the card (even if it's expired in the meantime) to verify it.
I pre-book ICE/Eurocity tickets (and get a seat reservation), but don't bother for just S-Bahn and regional tickets that don't have seat reservations. Ticket machines are all in multi-languages, but may be confusing in that they can serve either DeutscheBahn tickets or tickets for the local/regional transport union, and depending on where you go, one or other will be valid. I *think* that Munich-Kufstein, as an example, could be had with either a DB ticket or a MVV? (Munich regional transport) ticket or the Bayern ticket. All using the same trains (unless it's IC/ICE/EC, which will be DB only and attract a premium).
Might be worth pre-booking, if only to sort the faff before you go.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| andy wrote: |
If you do pre-print ticket, be aware that you must have the exact same credit/debit card present with you on the train. The ticket inspector scans the 2D barcode on the print and swipes the card (even if it's expired in the meantime) to verify it.
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I have never had that happen to me. I have been using internet-printed tickets for a very long time - cannot remember when they started - and not once have I been asked for a credit card for verification. Heck, they usually do not even ask for a passport. Is it something that had come in since March 2027?
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@ulmerhutte, it happens to me. They warn you when you buy the ticket online you have to have the card with you, and mostly they check (IME). I am fairly sure it's as been in place for as long as I have been taking German trains, which was when I moved there in 2009.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I've had my card checked along with the ticket, probably about 100% of the time when using pre-printed tickets within Germany. On the Austrian part of the cross-border service, the OeBB ticket inspectors don't always scan the card, but the German/DB ones do IME. The website does warn you.
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The OeBB tickets require photo id not the credit card, so you need both to hand to be safe whichever site you buy the tickets from. My experience on the prices is that the Sparschiene tickets disappear from the DBahn site before the OeBB site, so I always check both. Booked well in advance nearly always gets the €19 price. Even got 1st class for €29 once. Lovely Swiss train with the wrap around glass windows. Note that some trains from Munich go the shorter route to Zell via Woergl, others through Salzburg. 45 mins difference. Have a good trip.
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I've had my ccard checked on German trains before. They are nothing if not ruthlessly efficient!
I can't remember which card I used for my up coming trip, but I'll have the all with me if I can't work it out.
I went went on whatever their super fast intercity is called, possibly between Dusseldorf and Frankfurt, where they have an on board speed reading to let you know just how fast the driver is caning it!
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Exactly what I opted for. I got 1st class for EUR 24 Heading out. Figured the time saving with the quick train and more direct route and additional 5 for the 1st class even if it is only a little bit quieter was worth the extra
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| The OeBB tickets require photo id not the credit card, so you need both to hand to be safe whichever site you buy the tickets from. My experience on the prices is that the Sparschiene tickets disappear from the DBahn site before the OeBB site, so I always check both. Booked well in advance nearly always gets the €19 price. Even got 1st class for €29 once. Lovely Swiss train with the wrap around glass windows. Note that some trains from Munich go the shorter route to Zell via Woergl, others through Salzburg. 45 mins difference. Have a good trip. |
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I can't remember which card I used for my up coming trip, but I'll have the all with me if I can't work it out.
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I think the PDF ticket show the last 4 digits of the card no.
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I went went on whatever their super fast intercity is called, possibly between Dusseldorf and Frankfurt, where they have an on board speed reading to let you know just how fast the driver is caning it!
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All the ICE have that. Köln-Frankfurt section is 280km/h iirc (might be 300).
My best ticket was Frankfurt-Geneva for €39 return. Definitely worth the €10 each way to go 1st class.
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