 Poster: A snowHead
|
Ok, well doesn't have to be an ipod- any music player really but obviously the advent of iPods has increased people having earphones in their ears!!
Do many of you ski with music playing? I'm taking it it can't help with your perception (can't hear a thing in case a snow cat starts chasing you!!)
|
|
|
|
|
|
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
|
|
Not any more. I used to ski with a walkman when I was younger, but now I find I need to concentrate on my skiing rather than enjoying the music. I'm not sure whether that's because I'm getting old or because I ski at a higher level which demands greater concentration!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
|
|
I personally don't. The warning scream from an out of control skier behind me has saved my bacon several times.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You need to Login to know who's really who.
You need to Login to know who's really who.
|
I have a creative zen and have been trying to get the earpieces to go with my Giro 9 helmet but no one has them at the moment. My partner has them and is only allowed to listen on the lifts although did catch him out a few times last season listening to tunes down the pistes!
Personally think they could be classed as a tad dangerous as you should be concentrating. Maybe as rob@rar.org.uk, says it is an age thing!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
|
Paul Holland, Good point. Maybe skiing whilst listening to music is not such a good idea. You do really need to be able to hear the things going on around you. I've got an iPod Nano, and tbh, I'd be too scared to death of breaking it out on the pistes!! My parentals would kill me lol. I suppose listening to music in lift queues is okay. I don't need music to entertain me though, I already have my entertainment, in the form of a large group of about 8 loony guys. Very fun indeedy! 
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
|
|
I'm against the iea of skiing with music, mainly due to the 'safety' implications stated above.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I know lots of people that always snowboard to music, but only one or two snowboarders. I've tried it but don't enjoy it. I can see why you might in the park but not freeskiing. I agree with the others, it's potentially dangerous and frankly anti-social. I hate trying to get their attention when my buddies are plugged in. I love the sound of skiing, why spoil that??? 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
You definetly need some tunes in the Park! Gets you physched and ready for the next hit. If you're not listening to music you just think about the consequences of it going wrong. Biggest stacks last year were when I forgot to press play first 
Said that I'd probably stick around when DS was back up and running.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
|
We had this discussion last season and it got quite heated. Personally I do ski with music and see nothing wrong with it. I can see the logic behind the safety argument, but when I've got a hat over my ears, and am skiing fast with the wind rushing by my ears I wouldn't hear much around me anyway. And also I feel that argument suggests that people who are hard of hearing shouldn't be skiing...
Of course if you find it difficult to concentrate with music then don't listen to it. But that's a personal choce, no different to whether or not you listen to music whilst driving.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I don't: partly for safety, partly because it blots out a part of the outdoor experience, and partly because good music deserves to be listened to undistracted.
|
|
|
|
|
|
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
|
|
too dangerous
|
|
|
|
|
|
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
|
I was guessing that it may not be a popular idea (for the obvious safety implications)
It does perplex me with these new iPod jackets that have control buttons built in, guess there must be a market for it I suppose!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I agree with beanie1. I ski to music when I am on my own, a wild eclectic mix of stuff on 'shuffle' Never know whether Handel or Janis Joplin, Bach or Garbage are coming next. I also listen to the good bits undistracted, but some music, though good to ski with, doesn't merit any special reverence (e.g. The Ultimate Rock and Roll Collection)
It is especially good if you are tired, the weather is crap, etc. Perks you up, gets you turning rhythmically. I don't believe its anything like as dangerous as people who suddenly stop in the middle of the piste to turn round and look backwards at what they think might be coming down after them. Yes, it can be antisocial, if you are in a group with others, but there are lots of more antisocial things - e.g. lighting up ciggies on a chairlift, skiing off in an impatient huff because someone in the group is adjusting their goggles, looking a map, having a pee etc, or taking off fast and first, leaving another competent but less selfish skier to 'bring up the rear' and pick up the straggers.
When with others I often do have my music on, but always switch off when in a queue, on chairlifts, standing around discussion where to go next etc. It's amazing how heated the thread on this topic became last year -though it was always the people without music who seemed to believe that those who like to ski with music were guilty of vandalism, lack of appreciation of the mountain, criminal negligence, etc. I suppose all those people refuse to let anyone listen to the radio in their cars, too.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You know it makes sense.
|
|
I do sometimes listen to the ipod when skiing, if im skiing with friends i leave it swiched off. but most of the time my friends end up stopping before i do, and when skiing on my own i will almost allways have the ipod on. Its no worse than driving with music on, (which in my car is generally a lot louder than what im listening to skiing.)
|
|
|
|
|
|
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
|
|
Depends of you're listening to the "Avalanches" or not, can't go down to ironry!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Poster: A snowHead
|
Personaly, I think its on a par with drink driving. You're just being negligent.
....and if you're skiing with mates antisocial too...
|
|
|
|
|
|
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
|
|
SMALLZOOKEEPER, are they prog rock?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
|
markP,
So if a deaf person skis, are they being negligent?
|
|
|
|
|
|
You need to Login to know who's really who.
You need to Login to know who's really who.
|
|
Not in a million..!!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
|
beanie1, I'd have to give the following argument:
a deaf person can't help being deaf. Therefore they have no choice but to not hear. But people who listen to music are choosing to remove a large proportion of their senses. Therefore, they are being far more negligent.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
|
|
Wild guess but I think you'll see more deaf skiers that were deaf from birth than skiers that have lost their hearing later on. Deaf people are less scared than people who have lost their hearing (not hard of hearing), they become jumpy because they used to be able to hear stuff so are missing a sense. Also losing your hearing can effect your balance so they find it harder to ski. Just things I have learnt whilst working with deaf people. I'd love to set up a charity allowing people with certain levels of disability to access the mountains and ski... One day.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I wish you good luck with that parlor, it's a great idea!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
beanie1, I think mark s sums up what negligent means quite well.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
|
|
There is one big difference between skiing with an ipod and having music on in your car.....namely headphones!! If I have my car stereo pn, I can still hear other noises around. If I drive with my ipod on (using the headphones) then I have far less awareness of surrounding noises.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
'Do you ski with IPODs ???'
No, I use skis...
|
|
|
|
|
|
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
|
|
|
|
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
|
I love having my iPod on when I'm skiing. I also cycle in London traffic with it on. I can understand why people would see this as risky, but... I don't have it turned up too loud - when I'm focused on the road/my turns/surrounding skiers etc, I'm not listening to it. I can still hear sounds around me (those little earbuds don't block out much on their own and without the music pumped up too loud I don't seee that much problem - no more than wind noise etc).
The key factor in my view about safety is not your peripheral awareness but that if you have the music too loud and get too pumped up by a high-octane track you're more likely to attempt ski beyond your ability (i.e. crash hard).
For me it's background music, and when you're cruising, or at the beginning and end of a run - and of course on the chairlifts - you enjoy it, if I'm into my skiing on a steeper section etc, I'm oblivious to it. Personally I find it really contributes to my enjoyment.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
You know it makes sense.
|
|
AxsMan, ha ha, I sing to myself when I'm skiing too!!! I thought I might be the only person in the world who did that!!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
|
One of my friends has been known to sing 'Happy talk' to get him down the mountain when particularly suffering.
Back to the subject, I won't ski to music - mostly for safety reasons but also because I prefer a bit of peace and quiet when skiing (besides, I can listen to music any time I like).
|
|
|
|
|
|
Poster: A snowHead
|
|
|
|
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
|
|
AxsMan, I play the guitar, but so far not on skis. ISTR a Bond girl sliding on a cello case though!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
|
laundryman, nightshift,
Ok so that's two vocalists, lead guitar (hope it's acoustic or you'll need a long cable!), any skiing drummers out there?
Forgive me but ISTR=?
|
|
|
|
|
|
You need to Login to know who's really who.
You need to Login to know who's really who.
|
|
AxsMan, ISTR = I seem to recall/remember
|
|
|
|
|
|
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
|
Skiing with ear phones is a little bit dangerous because it really does block out the surroundings.... going with the likes of giro tune ups isnt as bad, you have much more chance of hearing what is going on around you.
To continue on the deaf person idea.... if a deaf person is ok because they have no choice, that means anyone with the choice is negligent not being safe (i.e. not listening to music). So change tacts.... why then do so many people not bother with helmets? They again have a choice.... so is not wearing a helmet less dangerous than wearing a helmet with tune-ups?
Adam
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
|
Its that old chestnut - balance is required.
Listening to music is not dangerous per se... not being aware of your surrounding can be though and that can equally apply to an ignorant idiot without headphones.
As I become more confident skiing/snowboarding on my own I find that I like having music - particularly on lifts and if there are queues. Volume goes down while I'm skiing - and usually gets turned off completely if its busy on the slopes.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
at the risk of being Mr Logic, this:
| buns wrote: |
| anyone with the choice is negligent not being safe |
is not a logical conclusion from this:
| buns wrote: |
| a deaf person is ok because they have no choice |
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
|
Re: DO YOU SKI WITH IPODS???
I would like to complain about this string, tried skiing with ipods & it ruined them, they broke up inder my boots & were hopeless for carving, I would advise evryone to use ski's. 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I have two iPods - a chunky one and a shuffle (for running etc). I love music but I wouldn't use an iPod when skiing. Basically, I love the mountains even more, don't spend enough time in them and so when I am there I don't want corrupt the mountain experience.
But wait a minute I hear you cry - don't ski lifts/bright coloured ski suits/swarms of people also corrupt the mountain experience. Well yes they do to an extent. Avoiding them is one of the many great things about off-piste skiing. When I'm on piste I can't avoid them but I can avoid diluting the experience more with man-made sounds.
BTW I ride a bike in central London. I don't use an iPod for that either but for safety reasons only! I find having my radar working effectively as possible minimises the risk of getting comped by other road-users - the risk/reward of headphones doesn't make sense for me in London traffic.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
FAQ
