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Hi everyone,
I`m 180 cm/78 kg, advanced piste skier, not so good off piste  ) I`m looking for a new slalom skis.
can anyone compare Atomic D2 Race SL(2011) and Atomic D2 3.0 SL (2016)? Is race rocker a big deal? Can anyone comment on ski length - 160 or 165 cm?
Thanks!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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way too short, if you're an experienced skier i'd be looking for something much closer to your own height!
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^ Not for a slalom ski - 165 should be about right (sorry I know nothing about models though!).
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| clarky999 wrote: |
| ^ Not for a slalom ski - 165 should be about right (sorry I know nothing about models though!). |
I was about to type this but got beaten to it!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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In a stiff SL ski 165 is appropriate for this size of skier. Race rocker is slight and intended to make the ski a little easier to manage without losing edge grip & stability, probably a good thing for recreational skiing.
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Thanks for the replies!
I also think that 165 for slalom is OK - not to short, not to long. Maybe if its proper stiff race ski it will be harder to bend, but I`m trying to ski as aggressive as possible. I am recreational skier(about 20 days/year), but I really like the way racers ski ) Of course nowhere near their physique, I`m aware of that.
I`m skiing now Fischer Progressor 2008, but it`s getting old. I`m looking for something more solid. Anyone with experience with atomics latest models? What would suit me best?
Thanks!
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@draco, I would suggest that the longest size is designed for people a bit heavier than you so the 165cm ones should be fine.
Current race technique isn't really about being aggressive, it is more about keeping the ski carving cleanly.
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@rjs
my be not aggressive, but "explosive" is the right word. Of course I like to make clean and graceful turns, but if I want to make them a little faster, IMHO, I try to use more strength in the middle of the turn, more work for the legs to get in and out of the turn.
I may be completely wrong though
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The D2 is the top end punter (non FIS) ski and the two models you list are the old and new versions of the same ski. I can't compare the SL but I have skied the old and new GS versions. It was on different trips not back to back but I couldn't tell you the difference, "race rocker" is a matter of about 1cm early rise at the tip I think, there was no change in the feel to a normal mortal like me (stand back while ski geeks tell me how much difference that 1cm makes  ). So if you get a good deal on old stock of the old version I should go for it.
I also tried the redster XT. It is worth a look if you are not totally slalom focussed, it is slightly wider radius like a recreational piste ski, but with race style width and stiffness. For me it is a better ski for recreational skiing unless you love short turns ALL the time.
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| Col the Yeti wrote: |
| ... the two models you list are the old and new versions of the same ski... |
yeah, I was just wondering if there is a significant difference between 2011 model ski and 2016 model ski? Is there a leap of ski making technology lately, because I haven`t been watching the market in the past few years
Are the new ones better, or the "good old goldies"
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The marketers will tell you there is s huge difference but I don't think anything major has changed in race style skis. As I say I couldn't tell any major change in the GS flavour of the same ski despite "race rocker". Maybe if you ski them back to back on the same day you will see a difference but it would be more a matter of preference rather than either is "better" I would expect.
In accordance with the N+1 rule you could get both and see 
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