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knee pain / kettlebells

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Can anyone let me know if there is a good cream for relieving knee joint pain and if there is a good type of knee support to buy for this?

Also, I am thinking about purchasing a set of kettlebells for exercising with the thought of having legs that can ski for several days after no skiing all summer.

These kettlebells are at different weights (https://www.pricedropdonkey.com/cheap-sports-and-leisure/fitness-deals) and I wondered what would be the best exercise to do and should I do high reps low weight or low weight and high reps?

Any budding exercisers out there?
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high reps low weight or low weight and high reps

you know those are the same thing, right? wink

Low weight, high reps is your friend for stamina, gradually increasing the sets of reps over time.
If it's basic muscle pain, Ibuleve gel, but if its something other than that, then you should get some proper medical advice as to whats going on in there.
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Richard_Sideways wrote:
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high reps low weight or low weight and high reps

you know those are the same thing, right? wink

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Two Massively different things!!!

Kettlebells are great for a wide range of movements.
I see skiing in the same way i see cycling core strength is often forgotten about and can stand you better with good legs than great legs can with no core strength, Pick up a cheap TRX and work on core before legs would be my tip
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Two Massively different things!!!

Are they? Please do feel free to illuminate me.
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@Richard_Sideways, Laughing

There are some knee exercises which, done properly, are generally good for you BUT if you have specific problems, as your question implies, you should really see a sports physio and get recommendations, and have him/her oversee how you do squats, for example ('cos if you do them wrong you can harm yourself).

It'll cost you about £50.

As for whether your legs will be able to ski for several days that depends entirely on what your problem is. If your stance is wrong, with too much of your weight hanging off your quads, rather than being stacked on your skeleton, exercises won't help but lessons will. Whether you can "ski all day" has more to do with your technique than your muscles. And for ordinary piste skiing, up in a lift, down a piste, you don't need to be very fit either (even quite old people can do it... wink )

If you have inflamation, one of the NSAIDs like Voltarol gel will help. Ask your pharmacist.
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Richard_Sideways wrote:
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Two Massively different things!!!

Are they? Please do feel free to illuminate me.


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No one answered your first question, so here goes...

Voltarol 12hr emulgel is the stuff (now you can't get the tabs over the counter).

Also some people swear by something called Flexiseq (google it) - quite expensive & may be a quack remedy, but it does work for a lot of people
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@geoffers, pam w said voltarol earlier.

I assume the kettle Bells will be used to add weight to squats, lunges etc.
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There is one rather badly designed published study on Flexiseq that really doesn't show anything. Expensive device plus no evidence = scam I'm afraid.
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My winter routine is similar to this
http://youtube.com/v/bjbiZdxowCc with kettlebells and a 15 minute h.i.i.t run added. 3 times a week or so. Plus running if the weather's ok and skiing most weekends.

Summer mostly running and rollerblading.

I may get some wheeled nordic skates this year...

I would suggest that fatigue while skiing is often down to poor technique.
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I use a 20Kg kettlebell in a circuit workout.

Alternating single arms, ten reps:

1. Clean
2. Shoulder press
3. Clean and jerk
4. Arm swing to horizontal
5. Double arm swing to horizontal (obv just once)
6. Feed backwards through legs to opposite hand and curl
7. Feed forward through legs to opposite hand and curl
8. Upright row (both arms)
9. Head still, hold weight upright just below chin and "halo" your head clockwise
10. Then anti-clockwise
11. Squat holding weight upside down at chin height, double arm curl when you stand up.
12. Bent over row.
13. 50 situps
14. 50 pressups
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@Mosha Marc, I use a 12kg bell Embarassed
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@under a new name, 14 kg next time then Cool

I also hold that tuck your fella does, but on a vibroplate holding the kettlebell for a minute. I'm working up to some box work like his, but a knee injury is taking a loooong time to sort itself out.
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@Mosha Marc, a friend blew his ACL and some other stuff Jan '14 and approves of the vibroplate...
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GimmieSnow wrote:
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Can anyone let me know if there is a good cream for relieving knee joint pain and if there is a good type of knee support to buy for this?


No there isn't a knee cream with convincing evidence it will work for knee pain.

Don't waste money on a knee support for undiagnosed knee pain - instead get a diagnosis before trying treatments. You'll save ( a lot of ) time, effort and money.

Jonathan Bell
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I never tried kettlebells... body weight squats are enough for me to help wiht my knee pain!
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10kg kettlebell for Goblet Squats for me, let's just say that I'm built more like a marathon runner.
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