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So I tried snowboarding and got a two day personal instruction and he pretty much had to pick me up every time I fell (constantly) he was skiing while I was snowboarding and I just can't pick myself up. Would skiing be easier to do in this respect or should I just get a snowmobile? Haha
I have tried working out my legs for a year and it wasn't to any avail. I am pear shaped / 24/ female and think I might be a screwed snowboarer! Thanks
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Be patient! 
Why did the instructor not board? That I find strange.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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If Logan was being constantly picked up then possibly the instructor was glad/chose to be on skis for that very reason ....
Last edited by Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see? on Wed 16-03-16 9:28; edited 2 times in total
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Persevere...I am new to boarding after skiing for several years. I can just about get up from my heel edge but after doing this a couple of times I am exhausted!
Find it easier to flip the board over and get up on my toe edge.
I too find it odd your instructor was on skis...where was this and with who??
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Can you not get up from your knees. Getting up from heelside can be tricky for a beginner as there is a long way to move centre of gravity with little leverage on a potentially slipping edge.
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If you can't get up onto your toe edge you should take up tiddlywinks rather than skiing. One of the things I liked about snowboarding was how easy it was to get up. On the flat, on skis, I struggle like a beached whale.
It sounds as though your instructor was hopeless. Bizarre.
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Your teacher should not have been on skis.
It is not strange, it is nothing but poor teaching which has probably resulted in you not being able to stand.
Did your teacher adjust your stance (binding angles) probably not.
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Was the person teaching you a friend? Either get a proper instructor or change your instructor!
Teaching someone to snowboard whilst your on skis is just ridiculous. Thats like teaching you to drive a car whilst they`re riding a bike.
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Get up on your toe edge , facing up the mountain , Your instructor shouldve definately been on a board . He wouldve helped you turn onto your heel comfortable edge facing down if you cant turn yet .. He shouldve had you practising falling leaves on both edges ( no turns involved ) weird that he was on skis ...
Boardings tough to learn and so much more physically demanding when you are learning because youre constantly up on your feet then down on the floor ...
Persevere its worth it , it took me more than 3 holidays to feel like i was getting anywhere !
Fitness , squats planks sit ups step ups on a chair all help , core strength is key
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Can you get up at home on a carpet? Put your board on, then bend knees, put hands on ground, then knees. Board will be on the toe edge. Kneel up. Then put hands down again, straighten your legs a bit, walk hands towards feet. Stand up. Repeat. Has your "instructor" ever snowboarded? You can practice heel edge too, though that's harder. Easier on a steeper slope (as is getting up on skis). Stick a think cushion under your bum to start with.
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1. Your instructor should have been on a board - that would have have been the only way for them to demonstrate correct movements, and you copy them (including getting up). This can't be done with him/her on skis.
2. If you are just learning, why not give skiing a try anyway? Then you can decide what you want to pursue based on your own personal enjoyment, and not any other factors. But make sure you give both a fair go - i.e. a proper instructor for each!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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She wants to snowboard !
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You know it makes sense.
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Thats why she chose to do it , if she d wanted to ski she d have chose that ... 2 days is nowhere near enough time to choose and her enthusiasm will be dented by a rubbish instructor , a good one would have had her linking turns by the end of the week
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@foxtrotzulu, ur ending up my nemesis 
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Poster: A snowHead
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I'm not biased, I've learnt both and there's no doubt that getting up onto the toe edge of a board is hugely easier than getting up on skis on flat or flattish terrain, which is where a beginner is going to be.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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[quote="Logan" I am pear shaped / 24/ female and think I might be a screwed snowboarer! Thanks[/quote]
You may have accidently come to the right place
Not all snowboarders are snowborers, but you picked that up quick.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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HOW can a person on skis effectively teach a new snowboarder how to snowboard? How are they going to demonstrate technique? @Logan, you've had a crappy introduction to the sport, in fact I'd say you've not actually had a lesson yet... So don't give up, choose an school which specializes in snowboard instruction over the generics and you'll soon have your 'click' moment. Oh, and above all, ignore @foxtrotzulu.
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| Richard_Sideways wrote: |
| . Oh, and above all, ignore @foxtrotzulu. |
Sage advice.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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It looks like Logans Run.
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[/quote] As she has only done two days we don't know that the instructor wouldn't have had her doing that anyway.
Because he was on skis !,
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Unwarranted criticism . Deleted.
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Agree with many points in this thread. Having snowboard lessons from an instructor on skis seems very odd. And getting up on a board is definitely easier than on skis! However, a total beginner will probably fall over less on skis. As someone who, this time four years ago, had never tried skiing or snowboarding, I can remember my first lessons very clearly. I did a day 'learn to board' initially, and was completely, utterly rubbish (I know it was only a day, but I was a LOT worse than the others in the group) - kind of enjoyed it, but was dispirited at my poor progress, and to be honest, was a bit fed up of falling over all the time. I decided to try a 'learn to ski' day before having any more boarding lessons - partly because I had seen the beginner skiers in their lesson who didn't seem to be falling over constantly like I was! - and had a brilliant day. Things just seemed to click, loved it straight away, and only fell over once, from what I remember. I definitely liked reaching the stage of being able to do nice controlled turns down an easy run relatively soon.
It's all down to personal preference, of course, and how much you want to persevere - I'm sure some would say I didn't give boarding enough of a chance, but I enjoyed that first day of skiing so much that I couldn't wait to progress with it, and the addiction is still going strong.
To the OP: I would try boarding again, with a different instructor, but also consider a couple of ski lessons - see how you get on, and which you prefer!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Op,
You've wasted two days on the slopes.
Take proper lessons for a few days from a snowboarding instructor and then decide if you've had enough.
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You know it makes sense.
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I've done three lots of two days learning (well, half days) to snowboard. I haven't ever mastered being able to get up on the snowboard whilst facing downhill. I always have to turn over and face up hill, then get up on the toe edge, turn round to face the same way as everyone else in the class (for the two mornings I did class!).
Apparently getting up whilst facing downhill is a knack that takes time to master. I am quite curvy too and blamed that, but it isn't down to shape alone - it really is a knack and it take confidence.
I'd keep going with the boarding but do find an instructor who will teach you from a board, not skis
Good luck
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@chaletgirl, ditto the getting up facing downhill, it's almost like you feel you're going to career off downhill at any moment!
@Strax, what a useless reply that was, how pompous and self righteous! I take it you're God's gift to the opposite sex???
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Poster: A snowHead
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[Unwarranted criticism. Deleted post.
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| Strax wrote: |
A pear shaped 24 year old? Buy a pair of trainers and use them. Improve your diet and drink less alcohol.
Come back when you've done these things, and tell us how much fun you had once your self-confidence returned. |
Are you for real. As a reply to a first poster that is a terrible thing to say.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@Strax, "pear shaped" just means your hips are wider than your shoulders, and is a very common shape among British women. That in and of itself does not make you overweight (the op doesn't actually say that she is, so don't assume), and is pretty difficult to change anyway.
@Logan, it sounds like you've had some poor instruction to start with, and that won't help your confidence. Have a few more lessons with a different instructor, and maybe try skiing as well to see which you prefer. You can always do both!
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| Strax wrote: |
@foxtrotzulu, I hear what you're saying, but you seem to miss the point.
The OP confesses she is pear shaped, and has worked on her legs. Therefore she is able to exercise, she needs to adjust her calorie intake to her consumption, and improve her balance.
Taking up running is a cheap way to improve stamina, lung capacity, core strength and BALANCE. Co-incidentally her increased fitness will improve her self-confidence and enjoyment, i.e the essential bravery to strap your feet together and trust your body to deliver the new skills to stop you falling over.
And yes, of course, if Logan came to me for advice, one of the first things I would suggest would be: healthy diet and a pair of running shoes. I'd probably take her with me, after all I'm 48 years old, she must be able to keep up right?? No-one who took this advice held it against me.
This isn't snowsports advice, Logan will live longer, and probably happier, if she does these things; that's not my opinion, its the advice of medics all around the globe.
Good luck Logan, I hope you can take the advice in a positive manner, and avoid the negative vibes.
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Who says she's not fit and calorie intake is to high anyway ? She didn't ! She's explained that her body is pear shaped , there are lots of different body types and shapes out there .... I trained to quite a high standard at my gym and A weakness of mine was feet together get ups off a reebok box I had to improve hip flexibility and core strength and eventually it worked . You seem to be assuming without knowledge she's overweight and eats to much and is low in self confidence !!!!!!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| jocrad wrote: |
@Strax, what a useless reply that was, how pompous and self righteous! I take it you're God's gift to the opposite sex??? |
I've found over the years that very few forum posters that are that unpleasant about a female's shape/size are God's gift to the opposite sex
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To get up facing downhill requires reasonable core strength and balance, and is actually easier on a steeper hill.
Although when learning you are not so likely to be on a steep hill, so it's down to abs, glutes, balance, flexibility and beginners luck. While I was learning I got into the habit of always stopping on my toe edge as I was rubbish at getting up heel-side too.
I still try and stop toe side as it is so much easier to get going again, and I have done > 500 days boarding.
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| chaletgirl wrote: |
| jocrad wrote: |
@Strax, what a useless reply that was, how pompous and self righteous! I take it you're God's gift to the opposite sex??? |
I've found over the years that very few forum posters that are that unpleasant about a female's shape/size are God's gift to the opposite sex |
Exactly CG, I wonder what his male-hen size is? Assuming it is a bloke. I can't imagine a woman saying that.
Cheers
GC
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@chaletgirl, @GlasgowCyclops,
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Ive always gone along with getting the basics sorted out at a local dry slope in the uk ... especially things like "getting up", or even just getting the feel of the board or skis under you ....
I found that boarding took a while to get going then a quick progression, whereas skiing was quicker to get going and took a longer time to progress. With that in mind, boarding was more tiring and possibly more painful to learn for those first days ... so keep at it as the worst may be over !!
the more you fall the more you have to get up so the easier it will be to get up and the less you will fall ...a painful learning curve with functional fitness if you will .... ( once you get the right technique of course otherwise it just continues to be painful so get a good instructor)
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Getting up on your heels isn't too tricky in fact it's one of the first things I was taught after being shown how to fall properly, it's just a case of pulling the board up as close to your bum as you can, with one hand grab the board and with the other behind you just push yourself up. I would personally go to the nearest snowdome and learn the basics there, that way when you go away you'll be able to have a few lessons whilst being able to get around the mountain a bit.
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