Poster: A snowHead
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We are a private family of 4 living in Switzerland, we have a couple of chalets that we use on weekends and school holidays.
We would like to find a couple of helpful volunteers to help look after them (and us) for the winter season.
Simply speaking, that means helping out on weekends and in turn getting the rest of the week for yourselves to ski or enjoy the Swiss winter..
We split our time between chalets in Gstaad, and Klosters. The chalets have fully segregated apartments for you, this affords you privacy when you need but also close enough to be able to feel included.
We only are in one place at a time, and generally that depends on where the snowfalls balanced against where he best party is.
During the week of course you can use the full facilities of either chalets when they are empty, we just expect you to be at the right one as well. 4x4 Transport is provided and available to you
This is not a job! we want help you enjoy the season as much we do, we want you to have as much free time to ski in the week and help us make the most of our free time on the weekend by helping out with household chores.
Just don't shred all the powder on Friday. Save some for us.
What does that mean?
Typically we would arrive most weekends on a Friday night, and leave Sunday evening.
Of course there are some chores we would expect you to help out with.
Shopping, Plenty of cooking, some cleaning up after the Weekend,
Occasional child minding (ages 10 and 13) off slope and on although this isn't really necessary any more
Ski teaching some of our guests if you are up to it can bring rewards.
Ski teaching our kids ? Good luck - they have skied every weekend since age 3 - body armour not included..
There isn't that much to do, we generally don't trash our own place and our kids are tidy, there is not a new set of guests every Saturday.
I'm pleased to say that even on the busiest weekends mostly there is time enough for everyone to get on the slope - sometimes together - sometimes not.
In the week do what you like. Ski passes and transport included, and generally you are invited to join us for meals if you wish.
Getting here and what you consume in your own time is up to you.
Occasionally we may have house guests, and school holidays mean we would stay for longer periods which is an extra work load, but not a disaster but always more fun
So if you want to get a free ski season, just send me a message.
As usual you can get your questions answered here..
I hope again we can help some snow heads to get more snow-time and they do the same for us in return
Nix.
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Sat 5-07-14 11:25; edited 1 time in total
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Hi nixmap, welcome back.
Popcorn anyone
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Good luck nixmap, wasn't sure how to keep myself entertained until the football comes on - problem solved
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Hi nixmap, good luck, IMHO this still looks like a great opportunity for the right person, and I still wish that could person could be me. Ignore the inevitable snipes
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Good luck, hope you get a good response without the annual abuse. Seems a fair offer and for the right couple a real treat.
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For the sake of brevity allow me to paraphrase the next few pages:
Slavery
Exploitation
Suspicious
How come none of the previous incumbants return or report?
Is Admin aware?
Is Admin complicit?
Illegal under Swiss law.
"I'm calling the police"
It's a great opportunity
Live and let live
"I'd do it if I could"
Masque exploding in rage.
Variations of the above.....
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rungsp,
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rungsp, I just wish he'd buy a chalet somewhere francophone, and I'd be on it like a shot!
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rungsp, Can not agree - much better then chaletjob
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Timberwolf wrote: |
Hi nixmap, good luck, IMHO this still looks like a great opportunity for the right person, and I still wish that could person could be me. Ignore the inevitable snipes |
Thanks for our support, I have tried to improve the offer over time, and be fair to all applicants.
The way it stands now, with a free double area ski pass and a free car, sometimes I wish it could be me!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Pedantica wrote: |
rungsp, I just wish he'd buy a chalet somewhere francophone, and I'd be on it like a shot! |
Gstaad is Francophone so whats stopping you.
You used to complain about ankle biters ... well don't think they are around my ankles now.
More like wallet eaters, Saturday afternoon shopping in Gstaad High street with a teenage daughter is a true card killer.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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nixmap,
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Gstaad is Francophone
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Since when?
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Some tour operators offer a weekend rep job without pay, you just get a lift pass and accommodation. I dare say this here, without the questionable contracts, payslips and direct debit shenanigans, sounds like a much better alternative.
On the other hand, a friend of mine does this sort of thing for a British family in France. She has her own 3 bedroom house in the grounds of their mansion and use of two cars. She also gets a nice wage.
Depends what you're happy doing really, this strikes me as a great career break option but clearly not a career itself.
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You know it makes sense.
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nixmap, hooray! Welcome back
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Pedantica wrote: |
nixmap,
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Gstaad is Francophone
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Since when? |
At least since I was at school.
Officially its the wrong side of the line but practically French is more commonly spoken.
Most of the weekend people there come up from Lausanne and Geneva
Besides what have you got against saxophones
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Poster: A snowHead
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albinomountainbadger wrote: |
Depends what you're happy doing really, this strikes me as a great career break option but clearly not a career itself. |
Anyone looking for a career might look elsewhere , I reckon a couple of our previous guests could now claim a seasons work experience as a chef, ended up being pretty good after a while.
Anyhow we are searching for people who feel comfortable helping others and share our passion for skiing.
This is not a job, or career.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I think the experience of a season is much enhanced if you feel really comfortable with the locals and not like an outsider - that's certainly what kept me sane when I did a season many years ago in Verbier. Hobnobbing with transient gilded visitors is not enough. French is the only foreign language which gives me a chance in that department.
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nixmap wrote: |
This is not a job.. |
Ah, I must have misread it. So it's a timeshare where one party owns and controls everything including the other party?
I believe this is a good package for the some people, they are many who have a great life housesitting in mansions etc, but don't delude yourself as to what you're asking.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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...and we're off... popcorn, please!
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nixmap, if you ever get a chalet in Wengen I'd be more than happy to look after it for you, But Gstaad and Klosters are a little too rich for me, nearest I've got to staying at either was the Kulm Hotel at Davos Wolfgang and I think it was the Hotel Kernen at Schonreid. But I lost my heart to the Bernese Oberland many decades ago
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If I was 20 years younger, I'd do this like a shot. Can't believe the OP is getting some grief TBH, sacrifice some pay for a shed load of time on the mountain, bonza.
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trainee snowboard jedi wrote: |
If I was 20 years younger, I'd do this like a shot. Can't believe the OP is getting some grief TBH |
My bingo card is filling up nicely.
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PS very jealous, what a life!
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Did nixmap make his money as a popcorn mogul ?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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So what period is involved i.e. season start and end? Are language skills required?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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No, you will be locked in the basement, never to be heard of again.
Just Kidding.
I think understanding kiwi might help.
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What is the approx cost of half a litre of beer and a bottle of reasonable plonk?
How are the shopping and fuel costs managed?
Are there airport ferrying duties?
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You know it makes sense.
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I'm sure there are plenty of people that would appreciate this position.
I really have no idea why anyone would be against someone offering this sort of opportunity.
If I were younger and in a different position I'd jump at the chance.
Imagine living and skiing with your loved one for a season, in relative luxury and doing a few chores that are normal to most peoples lives... cooking, cleaning, helping out, entertaining, being social.
I'd imagine the life skills and contacts you make are amazing.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I really have no idea why anyone would be against someone offering this sort of opportunity.
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I have nothing against it except the irritating insistence that it's "free".
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Poster: A snowHead
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spud, essentially Nix is running a flanker around lots of regs, laws and common sense. That nothing has gone teat vertical is just luck . . . or mendacity All I say these days if that if you apply then you need to be aware that if it turns turd-like, the cloaca is deep and stinky.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Let's face it, supply and demand. And some people don't know any better.
albinomountainbadger wrote: |
Some tour operators offer a weekend rep job without pay, you just get a lift pass and accommodation. I dare say this here, without the questionable contracts, payslips and direct debit shenanigans, sounds like a much better alternative.
On the other hand, a friend of mine does this sort of thing for a British family in France. She has her own 3 bedroom house in the grounds of their mansion and use of two cars. She also gets a nice wage. |
I too, know someone who did similar duty as the latter, with a nice wage on top of that.
But, others not knowing any better, did the former, without wage!
Still, it's a matter of what one wants. If what's offered here is acceptable to the individual, it really doesn't matter if someone else is receiving a nice wage doing the same. There're people making more doing the same as I do. But until I land something like that, I'm stuck getting paid what I got paid. And there're high school drop out doing what I do for 1/4 of what I make, because they didn't know they could get more.
As they say, you don't get what you deserve, you get what you negociate. As long as there're applicants to this offer, it'll keep the "wage" at zero.
For those who weren't here in year 1 when this offer was first proposed, ski pass wasn't included then. And the children were smaller and needed more supervising. This now is probably the better arrangment than before. Also keep in mind the children will grow up and the family may one day decide they no longer need a cook/house-sitter any more. So get a jump on it if you're interested.
It's not "free" (you've got to do work). But it isn't a job either (no protection). As for the "volunteer" "helping" part, it's as much volunteering as my going to the office "volunteerily", knowing I'd get a nice sum deposited into my bank account! I really couldn't care less if they say what I have isn't a "job"!!! Mind you, I "help out" a bunch at the office too.
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I think snowheads had beaten this horse dead many times over!
It's "free" as in "buy 1 get one free", which I always found irritating no matter how many times I seen it used.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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nixmap, when you or your guests arrive at weekends/holidays, are there set hours of work or are the (can't say employees... Dunno what to call them...) 'chalet sitters' expected to be at your beck and call 24hrs/day? What percentage of the ski season, in days, will you/your guests be present?
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dode, a few years back a friend took this offer up, he said that most weekends the owners were present, and they were also there for a week at Christmas, a week at Easter, and there was a random week when a party of males turned up which was quite rowdy, but the alcohol, and girls they brought back each night more than made up for it! My friend said it was the best season of his life.
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My friend said it was the best season of his life. |
^^^ Here endeth the lesson
(but I better get more popcorn just in case...)
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Ricklovesthepowder, how did he survive in Gstaad/Klosters for the season with no income? Did he need a 2nd (or should that be 1st???) job? Did he return for another season?
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He probably took the burger van with him.
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dode, I have done seasons in Swiss land without an income!
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