 Poster: A snowHead
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Looking for a basic ski tuning kit, can anyone recommend one?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Thanks, it's a bit over my budget though. I was hoping to only spend around £60. Is there anything cheaper that would be alright for the job.
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Demon and Dakine both do home/travel kits, (got the Dakine one) Places like JibTuning sell those and their own kits, like @spyderjon, albeit less comprehensive.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@bendiddley, buy once buy right!
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| spyderjon wrote: |
| @bendiddley, buy once buy right! |
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| spyderjon wrote: |
| @bendiddley, buy once buy right! |
Yup. I bought some cheap stuff a year or so ago but soon realised that I needed better kit. I've boosted Jon's Christmas fund a bit recently and most of the original stuff I bought is now just gathering dust in my shed.
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Remind me; whats that old saying about bad workmen? 
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| bendiddley wrote: |
| Thanks, it's a bit over my budget though. I was hoping to only spend around £60. Is there anything cheaper that would be alright for the job. |
It depends on what you want. If you need vices then even the cheapest seat will use up all your budget. I had a pair of Vola Hobby Vice (c.£60) that I replaced with a 3 piece HOLMENKOL Super Pro Plus. Those are much better than the Vola but they are £90.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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This was my order from Jon. You might not need the base prep wax or Zardoz but even taking those out of the equation you are still looking at £90 plus the cost of the vices. You may then need to add a bench to that if you don't have something already:-
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@bendiddley, Have you tried the usual discounters? Glisshop, Ekosport etc. Those two have an extra 20%, Glisshop until tonight and Ekosport until Friday
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You know it makes sense.
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@Gaza, The sidewall stripper is the first thing to loose if you are on a strict budget. You would generally only need it on skis where the edges have been thinned considerably.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| PowderAdict wrote: |
| @Gaza, The sidewall stripper is the first thing to loose if you are on a strict budget. You would generally only need it on skis where the edges have been thinned considerably. |
That's not true. Many skis these days are shipped with their sidewalls flush with the side edge meaning that they have to be trimmed prior to the first edge tune.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@spyderjon, My mistake, I bow to your infinitely greater knowledge.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| PowderAdict wrote: |
| @Gaza, The sidewall stripper is the first thing to loose if you are on a strict budget. You would generally only need it on skis where the edges have been thinned considerably. |
Speaking as a mechanical engineer, the first thing I'd lose is the diamond file lube. Next the base edge guide (in 35 years I've never done them with a file), then [possibly] the sidewall stripper.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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hmm. Regarding the diamond file lube - is this necessary? Does this clean the files and well as lubricate them? I have never actually cleaned my files, is this the best way?
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The sidewall stripping thing still confuses me (although I have one and use it having been told by spyderjon that I needed to!).
Sidewalls are materially softer than a metal or diamond file. Why doesn't the action of filing the (hard) metal edge remove the right amount of soft plastic sidewall? If I were to file 2 different woods, or a composite item with wood and metal, the biggest problem is not over-filing the softer component.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@snowdave, the softer sidewall material simply clogs the file & it won't. A big gnarly file like a milled file in a 7 degree side edge guide will usually cut it but it'll leave a pretty rough surface. Most shops will machine the edges & the machines are powerful enough to take off the sidewall material at the same time so they don't need to remove it first.
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I found myself in need of a sidewall stripper last winter, but that was after many services on a particular pair of skis. I couldn't find one anywhere in Chamonix – either shops had never had them or heard of them, or had only ever had maybe 3, and had sold them all. Everyone just told me to take the skis to Concept Pro and stick them through the machine, which would have been a temporary fix at best.
In the end the guys at Sole had one and did the sidewalls for me – top blokes  I won’t have need of one again for ages – I wouldn't say it’s a commonly used tool, but when you need it, you need it.
For me it was pretty obvious that my files were getting clogged up with sidewall material, and it was hampering my work. It just made everything a lot slower and less efficient.
(Fyi, all my servicing kit is from @spyderjon, and it’s top notch. I got some extracleaning wax from him again this year as I’d run out, but everything else is still going strong. Getting a sidewall plane from him at the same time would have saved a bit of hassle  )
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Y'know, I've never needed a sidewall plane, but now I'm sure that I want one more than anything I've ever wanted before!
This is the spirit of Black Friday!
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@Lilledonmarco, diamond files should always be used wet/lubricated. In general engineering an oil based cutting fluid is the norm however an oil based lube would penetrate the p-tex base & it can't be removed, inhibiting wax absorption. Anything wet & non oil based will do, ie water, snow, spit, beer etc. The best non oil cutting fluid is alcohol based - mine is 50% denatured alcohol, 49% distilled water & 1% rust inhibitor 
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regarding the sidewall stripper - as donmarco jr is racing, I have used mine a bit already. Also on my skis...especially when I went from 88 degrees to 87 degrees on some of my skis. Its fun to use
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@spyderjon, thanks , that makes sense now!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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