 Poster: A snowHead
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I have started to try using this tape on my IT band, Gluteus, and hamstrings on my left leg. It seems to provide some support to sore or weak muscles.
Has anyone else used this tape? Do you have any tips, or potential pitfalls?
I noticed that you really need to remove any body hair from the area first, as it can be very sticky and painful to remove. If you put it on too tight, and can cause problems with surrounding muscles. (like overstraining them)
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@Bigtipper, I've had it applied to various broken or poorly bits, but always by trained physios and it does help get the exercises done. Taping yourself is always a difficult job, especially as we sometimes have to twist into awkward and unnatural positions to apply it so it does not work either as effectively nor correctly. Bloody expensive stuff it is too! I used to use a form of McConnel Taping on my right knee to help it to track properly after numerous surgeries meant I had severe muscle imbalance. It helped but only because I was trained by my therapists to place it correctly. I used simple zinc oxide tape, way cheaper which meant I had no worries about removing it at the end of the day.
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kids here use it on cold days as face protection!
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My physio recently taped me knee. It did seem to help, though I couldn't be sure. It stayed on through a week of showers. Pulling it off did hurt a bit but my legs aren't very hairy - need to do it quickly!
I'm sure there are lots of ways of getting it wrong - strikes me as quite a skilled job, applying it correctly.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I have also been given a roll of this tape for tendonitis by my physio. I nearly did myself another injury trying to go backwards head first into the bath in order to keep one leg out so the tape didn't come off!! If you leave it on till it starts coming off of its own accord it doesn't hurt that much. It also made my heel feel a lot better.
Next time you go to the physio film them putting the tape on your leg on your phone and then when you've forgotten exactly what to do watch the video you have made. This was my daughter's good idea as she happened to be with me for the appointment and filmed on her Ipod.
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nearly did myself another injury trying to go backwards head first into the bath in order to keep one leg out so the tape didn't come off!!
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 I always shower, but had no problem with the tape coming off. It came off only when I pulled it off, prior to the next visit to the physio 8 days later.
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Lots of youtube clips on applying this tape. My Physio used it for a calf tear, and I've used it to limit motion after I sprained my wrist. You don't need to remove body hair - the tape will do it for you 
Tiger sell a cheap version for £3 for a roll of 4 metres - much cheaper than official versions (though you have to cut it yourself).
Seems to work well as a variable stretchy support tape, but there's more 'science' behind it from the inventor to do with lymph drainage which all sounds very hokey.
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I bought some cheap stuff myself for £3 (5m), and copied some of the videos on youtube. Doing your hamstrings is quite tricky, but IT band and gluteus muscles were easy enough to DIY.
I guess it depends on how hairy you are between your legs. I shaved first!
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There is no evidence if has any effect at all (especially the red tape). Save your money.
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Well scientific evidence or not, it works for me  Some 6, 7 years ago, I sprained my ankle so badly I couldn't even touch the floor with foot, not to mention walking didn't even cross my mind. Two stripes of tape, and I was walking relatively normal. This convinced me it works... for me. If this is scientific enough evidence is up to you, but for me it's enough. There are times, when kinesio tape is only thing that makes me keep going (from back problems, neck issues, problems from in past torn/stretched shoulder ligaments, constant knee problems... yeah I know I could slowly qualify for disabled person  ), and it actually helps. Color doesn't matter, and it has no effect, but I like cyan blue and pink, so that's what I'm buying
And it's not even that expensive... It's around 5-6eur/5m tape, so it's not that much. But there are big difference between all 100s of different sorts of these tapes. My best experience is with Nasara tape... it hold much better then anything else (including original one), and it's almost half the price of original one. It normally stays on without problems for 5, 6 days, even with regular showers and whole bunch of sweating during trainings. On the other side, I had few different ones, which didn't hold not even for 3 hours, so point is to find right one.
Personally, I do pretty much all taping myself... I know myself better then any physio knows me, and majority of so called "qualified kinesio taping specialists" had exactly 3 days course, so it's not like they would be some super experts in this Only thing where I have problem is shoulder, as it's pretty hard to tape yourself, and on top of that, there's whole bunch of ligaments going into different directions, so missing right spot for 2mm means it's not going to work right way. But good thing with kinesio is, you can't do damage... if you put it wrong, it doesn't have effect or in worse case, it gets worse. But you find out about this in 10mins, when you start to get more pain and not less, so you just take tape off. And even if you don't know your muscles and ligaments, there's enough of Youtube tutorials to help you start with it. So just try it yourself
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Amazing.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I have started to try using this tape on my IT band, Gluteus, and hamstrings on my left leg. It seems to provide some support to sore or weak muscles.
Has anyone else used this tape? Do you have any tips, or potential pitfalls?
I noticed that you really need to remove any body hair from the area first, as it can be very sticky and painful to remove. If you put it on too tight, and can cause problems with surrounding muscles. (like overstraining them)
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Taping definitely has a role in treating musculoskeletal problems.
However ther does need some some clinical reasoning before trying it.
By that I mean just applying it without thought to what the tape is doing is unlikely to be effective.
The use of the tape must be to try and achieve a planned effect that fits with the specific condition
being addressed so you need a diagnosis first.
Taping is much loved in sport and, undoubtedly, can be useful in managing some chronic conditions.
I suspect it is often done for psychological reasons as much as anything.
Tape largely works by enhancing/altering proprioception ( the unconscious monitoring of your joints and muscles by the brain)
A typical example tape use would be in someone who has had a ligament injury where the ligament has scarred a bit and is less good at reporting to the brain that it is under tension. Applying tape can reinforce the message to the brain that that ligament is under tension by reporting information from the tape pulling in the skin. This then allows the brain to fire up the correct muscles quicker.
A second example that I see frequently is in the knee to help manage fat pad compression and patella maltracking. Jenny Mc Connell was an early advocate of the use in patella problems. Again some thought needs to go into why the tape is being applied.
Finally th re are some tapes on the market that look very "cool" with pretty colours and patterns printed on them.
Whilst the tape may possibly be high quality the price tag is what one would expect from a heavily marketed sports accessory.
Some of the marketing seems to be tapping into the current fashion of body art.
So in summary.
Taping has a role but that needs to be clearly thought out.
Taping your own knee by watching a YouTube video is probably a waste of money and time.
Tape seems to be at risk of becoming a fashion accessory.
Leucotape ( combi pack) applied correctly ( and skilfully) is probably as good as any on the market.
Jonathan Bell
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Well, I put one bit of tape on tight. The one from my groin to my knee. Over the last few days, I have noticed when I use this muscle much more as the skin pinches when the tape stretches too far. So it has stopped me over stretching this muscle.
The main reason I am using the tape is to increase the blood flow to the areas where I have applied the tape. I have massaged them, applied heat, ice, rest, and lightly stretched them. None of this on its own is removing the continual aches from these muscles, presumably due to the cold weather currently. Applying the tape, immediately removes the aches, and I suspect this is mainly due to increased blood flow to the specific areas.
I do not have a particularly serious tear anywhere, just a general old age issue where tissues and muscles have less collagen and take longer to repair. It is a long standing issue due to running too much in the past, which is getting better slowly.
Taping my IT band at the edge of my knee has a similar effect to using an IT band. It reduces any perceived pain due to increased blood flow.
All the extra blood flow probably helps heal the areas faster. Particularly if blood flow is restricted due to cold weather.
I applied tape to my toes last year, just zinc oxide tape, and this had a similar effect (although did not need to stretech when muscles were activated).
I am resting at the moment, and the tape helps identify when I do things which use these muscles. (so I can rest them better)
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You know it makes sense.
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Sounds 'kinexpensive to me.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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.@Bigtipper, Not sure about the tape increasing blood flow but if it's working for you keep going. Zinc oxide tape will certainly save you plenty on some of the other tapes people are " kine" mentioning
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Poster: A snowHead
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I tape my knee to correct for a slight maltracking, I have a 1cm hole in the cartilage so having patella staying in place is very important. I started taping on my doctor's recommendation and it was shown to me by a physiotherapist. I also wear a brace when I am skiing. Seems to work, though I can't be 100% sure whether it's taping, a brace or their combination 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I'm also a huge fan of taping. I was sceptical at first, but about 3 weeks into my foot treatment for metatarsalgia, I started taping and it made a huge difference. I could feel the extra support it gave. I see taping as more of a preventative. Especially if you are still active on your injury, taping will help from over-straining the area and causing more damage. I used KB tape which is medical grade. I have quite sensitive skin so was happy to hear it was hypoallergenic. I'd recommend to everyone continuing to be active on an injury. http://kingbrand.com/KB-Support-Tape.php?REF=46PV0.00
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Don't you need to be a medical professional to be able to tape up your knee properly and to get the most out of it?
What I am doing is just wearing a cheap but rather effective knee support I bought, here's the link http://nuovahealth.co.uk/shop/open-patella-knee-support-brace/
and that is actually targeting the problem areas in my knee a lot better than any tape that i have used in the past... usually with tape I just end up getting it stuck everywhere and making a right royal mess of it all.
Last edited by Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see? on Sun 20-03-16 13:45; edited 1 time in total
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A lot of taping for the sake of it going on here, or may be mixing up tapes
kinesio will do noting for a sprain.
Its best applied when fully stretching the affected muscles, tape fully stretched so that when you contract the muscle the tape contracts with it. The idea of the tape is to pull the skin away from the muscles making them work and improve repairs.
Last edited by You need to Login to know who's really who. on Tue 15-03-16 20:47; edited 1 time in total
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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No not at all. I think because of how popular it has become, more and more people are doing it themselves. I watched a video on how to tape my foot and that was enough for me. I liked a video more than written instructions as it's easier to see how much to pull/stretch the tape, etc. I re-taped every 3 days or so, and did all my foot treatments over top. There are tonnes of videos on youtube for almost every ailment out there.
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