 Poster: A snowHead
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Just a quick question. I rode a Jones All Mountain Twin this year and loved it. I've been trying to find one of last years models in the UK sales but with no joy. I have seen the Flagship which also gets great reviews but is directional and seems a bit more on the freeride side of the fence.
Anyone have any experience with the Flagship? How does it compare to the Twin in terms of weight and flex?
I'm really looking for one board do it all.
Other options are the Lib Tech Attack Banana and the Burton Custom.
cheers
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Tue 21-07-15 23:47; edited 1 time in total
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I was all lined up to buy a MT - if id have found one in the right size at the time I would have bought it, but I was talked around by by someone into trying the Flag and thats where i spent my money. While both have the All Mountain stamp,The MT is very much more a park orientated board
. If thats your goal then fair play, but if you're just dabbling in freestyle and spending the bulk of your time on piste or at speed then maybe the FS is the way forward.
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Getting too old for more than just the odd visit to the park for some small/medium kickers! I spend most of my time off piste in Scotland and the odd trip abroad. I really liked the lightness and responsiveness of the MT. It was just really easy to play with - especially through the choppy stuff, through trees and in the lighter fresh (what little I got the weekend I had it hired).
Having read some more its pretty much between the MT and the Flagship. They both seem like fine boards. There also seems to be a MT Ultra out this year... although it seems to peak at 160 and I could do with a 161W as a minimum.
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Has anyone seen any offers going on these ?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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The flagship is hard work in moguls, give Boardwise Cannock a bell they might have mountain twins left.
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@francium., Cheers, not too far from me so I might pop in.
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Gave Boardwise a call but they only have the MT in the LTD edition left and its too small at 158 for me.
Looks like the 2016 models will be in soon. Massive range in prices on the various websites from £349 to £419... how can they be so different? I like the colour scheme on the MT ultra - it will go with my yellow snowboard pants, however not sure it will be worth the extra £££!
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They used to do ex demo boards there. I might see if they have a 'used' one.
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Had a good look around but couldnt find one from last season anywhere!
The guys at snowcountry.eu did me a great deal including a pre-order discount on a 2016 161w so I went with that. £50 cheaper than the best UK shop price and that includes shipping. Really looking forward to the winter now.
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Out of interest how much did you pay for the board? I'm looking to get hold of one of these for next season too!
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I think it was about £330 plus £6 shipping. Bargain!
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Wow sounds a great price - was that just online or did you have to call them?
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think it was about £330 plus £6 shipping. Bargain!
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MASSIVE bargain for the 2016 board!
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You know it makes sense.
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Actually it was a little better than that. Was £328 incl shipping!
Just checked the Euro to £ rate and its pretty good right now. If you email Thijs at helpdesk@snowcountry.eu I'm sure he'll be able to sort you out. The best price I've seen elsewhere is £379 and even as much as £405 so yes a good deal!
Bring on the snow.
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Thanks for the tip - just got one ordered for the OH as a new season / christmas present 
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Poster: A snowHead
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Today I recieved my new board thanks to snowcountry.eu. credit where credits due they were a dream to deal with, price was amazing and the board turned up today with no issues.
Now looking forward to winter and some snow!
M
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Got mine on Monday - the other half was really pleased Just a shame we probably won't get to use it this year due to unexpected baby arrival!!
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Been looking at Jones boards recently myself but findng it hard to digest whats what!
Im looking for a board thats going to hold a wicked speed be of use to me all over the mountain and the odd run through the park (a few kickers nothing major)
What should i be looking at?
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You'll be wanting a mountain twin then, go for the ultra is you want a stiffer board. However the normal will be better in the park.
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Thats pretty much the definition of the Flagship - I've only got a couple of days on mine but it was certainly quicker and more lively to ride than my old Burton Triumph, which is about a thousand years old but could more than hold its own in pace.
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Ive been looking at the Aviator Ultra....
No use for me?
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Something inside me doesn't like the idea of a directional board probably just me being an idiot though.
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The flagship isn't a snowboard you'd use for park and they're hard work in moguls.
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Sure it's no jib board but it's not so stiff that you couldn't run it through its paces in the park - Responds well to putting the effort in, but then I'd been used to something pretty stiff to start with.
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Am i right in saying that the Mountain Twin has a set back stance as well?
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Yep both the mountain twin and the aviator have 20mm set back the aviator is stiffer than the twin and full camber, the twin is cam rock. If I had to have one board out of those 2 i'd have the twin it's a jack of all trades but a master of none.
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Right ok let me try and get my head around this...
The Aviator is a rocker camber and the Mountain Twin is traditional camber?
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I've not found either my old Flagship or my newer Carbon Flagship to be any real effort on moguls. I'm perfectly happy with a brief stint in the air on either of them too, but then again I'm never looking for a park. They'll just about ride switch if necessary so, given how awesome they are all over the mountain in a freeride style, I can't see why you'd want to compromise with a twin if you're not all about the tricks. Never tried an MT or an Aviator though, so give my advice whatever attention it deserves.
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You know it makes sense.
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The flagship is a freeride snowboard, built for going fast down steep terrain not really much good for park. The aviator is full Camber pretty stiff good for kickers and carving but not great float in powder. The MT is rcr is good for carving, pow and kickers not really a rail board. In the OP you say you rode the MT and really liked it, the other boards don't ride the same and are built for different uses. In the Jones line up the MT is the board that is good at everything the ultra version is just stiffer.
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The specifications seem fairly clear on their website. The entry level boards are necessarily less specific and more of a compromise. I would start with those. You're not going to find a board which is "wicked at speed" and good in the park: the requirements pull in opposite directions. Adequate is a better target. You just have to decide where the compromise is made.
Twins which are in fact not twins are (in my view) a bit of a marketing concept so people can have the benefits of riding a directional board without feeling that you can't go switch. Of course you can ride anything switch. If you don't know if a board's true twin or not then it most likely does not matter to you.
Note that the MT has nine sizes, which I think is excellent as in my opinion precise sizing is more important than anything else. I'd rather ride "the wrong board" at the right size than the other way around. With those I'd pick a board to start with based on a peek at their weight ranges, then try one model up/ down depending on how it feels. Getting it right without trying would be a risk: there are more wrong sizes than right there by 9:1.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@philwig, tell me about size, so to speak 
I need to refesh my snow kit, I'm on quite a stiff Santa Cruz GLX @ 163. I'm 5-10 / 8kg but have never really gelled with it.
The Jones MT sounds tempting as an all rounder.
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Im swaying towards the Jones MT Ultra.
Any deals on the go  ?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Anyone in attendance at the Hemel ski test? We could do an underground snowboard test and exchange program that evening.
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