 Poster: A snowHead
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"Vitamin I, the skier's vitamin" as it is sometimes referred to, is an anti-inflamatory. It can do nasty things to your stomach lining - known possible side effects include stomach discomfort, nausea and diarrhoea, and occasionally bleeding. And in OD, tinnitis as well.
Asthmatics should be particularly cautious, as they may be allergic to it.
On the upside, it can help with the aches and pains of skiing 
Take it with care.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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... after a nice evening meal.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Other known side effects include possible perforated ulcer, and occasionally death. I would choose paracetamol instead every time.
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Kramer, works just as well too. If you have an injury, ibuprofen would perhaps be a better choice, but for the general aches and pains , paracetamol every time.
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The scary thing about paracetamol though is the small gap between recommended dose and lethal dose. What is it? recommended = 8/24hrs Lethal = 20-30/24hrs ?
What with all the commercial remedies that contain it, it's all too easy to take more than u realise.
Also, for someone with a dodgy liver, isn't Ibuprofen is less problematic?
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H is for hypochondriac (Hat!) (only kidding!)
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admin, correct on the liver bit, and thanks for editing my post!
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admin, Ibuprofen ( and other similar drugs) should be avoided in liver disease. Paracetamol is a safe drug at recommended doses.
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admin, I believe what you are describing is known as the therapeutic index (going back to my drug design lecture at uni) which roughly speaking is a comparison between the effictive dose and the lethal dose. (actually ED50/LD50).
At the time of that lecture 10 years ago, Paracetamol (aceamidophenol) was famous for being the drug with a therapeutic index closest to 1 which was freely available to buy.
That said, all the above still applies. Paracetamol is the safest taken at the right dosage. Just don't take too many!!
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I thought it started with N, as in Neurofen?
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chrisb, Nurofen is a brand name of some painkillers, http://www.nurofen.com/ , whereas ibuprofen is the generic name.
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Must admit I swear by ibuprofen gel 10%
Many hard to get rid of strains and muscle aches linger longer until the magic gel is applied
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Slowplough, surely you are joking? I was given Ibuprofen by my doctor to get me through the first night after having a fully dislocated shoulder. He told me to take it for the first couple of nights and then only, and really only, if the pain got too much to handle. You're telling me you take the stuff for sore muscles 
Get yourself down to a Sauna. Get the kecks off. Get yourself baked. Get yourself frozen. Relax for thirty minutes. Then get to the bar and get the Weissbier down. Forget Ibuprofen!
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Is the gel hard to swallow?
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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snowplough, i used the gel when i got a strain injury last year and it works a treat!!!
i take it everywhere with me just isncase!
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A proper warm up before skiing and cool down after skiing would prevent alot of the aches and pains. After do a good 10-15 sec stretch on each of your leg muscles. I play alot of football and after training/games, i know the next day/2 days whether i did a proper cool down.
Going to the extreme's an ice bath is also great for recovery of muscles, so sure get into the shorts and take a run outside and sit in the snow for a while then back into the sauna, repeat a couple of times. It's some shock to the system.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Whatever, I swear by Ibuprofen. There is nothing that cures my headache better than Ibuprofen. In fact, there is nothing else that helps me at all. Whether drug or not, I use it. And so far it did not destroy either of my bowels or harm me another way. You are only allowed 1200 mg per day anyway. That's not too much - not even if you take it couple of days in a row.
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lol i love this section
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| David Goldsmith wrote: |
| ... after a nice evening meal. |
Stops hangovers as well.
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| Kramer wrote: |
| Other known side effects include possible perforated ulcer, and occasionally death. I would choose paracetamol instead every time. |
Take your point - difficult to ski when suffering from Death.
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cjh5, 
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| Hells Bells wrote: |
| admin, Ibuprofen ( and other similar drugs) should be avoided in liver disease. Paracetamol is a safe drug at recommended doses. |
Whoa, no, Paracetomol is the commonest cause of liver failure in the UK and America, that's acute as opposed to the sclerotic chronic effects of alcohol.
Ibuprofen a synthesis of the original aspirin compound is just a bit vicious on the stomach lining but it's effecst can be offset by Proton Pump Inhibitors like Omeprazole and Lansoprazole.
Addicts like me go for Co-Codamol everytime 
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| Lilacdream wrote: |
| Whatever, I swear by Ibuprofen. There is nothing that cures my headache better than Ibuprofen. In fact, there is nothing else that helps me at all. Whether drug or not, I use it. And so far it did not destroy either of my bowels or harm me another way. You are only allowed 1200 mg per day anyway. That's not too much - not even if you take it couple of days in a row. |
Ibuprofen is a great and effective drug, and if taken on a full stomach or with a PPI and unless you have a history of peptic or duodenal ulcers is fine over 3-4 day period.
There is a slow release version, often marketed as a backpain version, and is often used by sports people with nagging injuries to assist with easing inflammation
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Ratae Corieltauvorum, just don't do that if you are working for an American company that insists on drug tests. You will fail and have some serious explaining to do. My sister lost her commercial flying license for a year as a result of popping a couple of co-codamol from my mothers medicine chest... And no she does not normally do opiates, or even alcohol!
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| Steilhang wrote: |
| Ratae Corieltauvorum, just don't do that if you are working for an American company that insists on drug tests. You will fail and have some serious explaining to do. My sister lost her commercial flying license for a year as a result of popping a couple of co-codamol from my mothers medicine chest... And no she does not normally do opiates, or even alcohol! |
Co-codamol is an over the counter med in the UK, and quite a few EU companies
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You know it makes sense.
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Ratae Corieltauvorum, indeed, and it contain codeine, which will cause you to fail a drugs test in the USA!
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| Steilhang wrote: |
| Ratae Corieltauvorum, indeed, and it contain codeine, which will cause you to fail a drugs test in the USA! |
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Poster: A snowHead
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I love those three words in the same sentence "test, drugs, USA"
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Ratae Corieltauvorum, she was not working for US Postal.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Ratae Corieltauvorum, as I said, paracetamol is safe if taken at the recommended dose.
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| Hells Bells wrote: |
| Ratae Corieltauvorum, as I said, paracetamol is safe if taken at the recommended dose. |
The safe dose for paracetomol would not be the 4mg/24hrs for someone with liver disease or cirrhosis or even a non cirrhotic alcoholic. For an alcohlic at any particular stage a relatively small dose can be fatal.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Ratae Corieltauvorum, I never said it was.
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Sorry HB, but you implied that Ibuprofen was not safe for those with hepatic issues while paracetomol was, unless I read your post very wrong
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Ratae Corieltauvorum, and I think you mean 4g/24 hours, not 4mg.
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| Hells Bells wrote: |
Ratae Corieltauvorum, reading back i see that you could probably read it that way. However, this may put you right on the use of paracetamol v NSAIDS in liver disease.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15767831 |
Interesting article, albeit 6 years old, but nearly all alcohol abuse practitioners go out of their way to discourage the use of paracetamol in patients with alcohol related problems, and in some treatment centres, will not administer paracetamol without a LFT.
They will however administer Ibuprofen with no LFT.
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| Hells Bells wrote: |
| Ratae Corieltauvorum, and I think you mean 4g/24 hours, not 4mg. |
Indeed I did, mea maxima culpa
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