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Actress Natasha Richardson has died from head injuries sustained in a skiing accident in Canada.
Richardson, 45, the daughter of actress Vanessa Redgrave, fell on a beginners' slope at the Mont Tremblant resort in Quebec on Monday...
More details from the BBC here.
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Actress Natasha Richardson is believed to be critically ill after a skiing accident on Monday...
More news from the BBC and bild.de
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laundryman wrote:
I hope she pulls through.
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Awful news. But head injuries on a nursery slope whilst with an instructor? I expect there's more to the accident than has yet been reported.
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and so the bbc asked
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With an average of 34 deaths a year, or 0.69 fatalities per million skiers and snowboarders, it is a very safe sport, providing you have the proper training and equipment, according to Dupont Emergency Response Solutions.
Dr Mike Langran, a Scottish-based GP has studied alpine injury rates for several years. He says around three in every 1,000 enthusiasts require medical attention. |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7948778.stm
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The helmet discussion takes another twist
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poo-poo. Hope the article is wrong.
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Awful news, I too hope it is wrong.
But when was the last time you heard of an accident on the nursery slope causing such serious injuires, particularly if not a result of a crash with a faster skier coming from above? All very strange.
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| chrisb wrote: |
| The helmet discussion takes another twist |
I see little argument against helmets.
This does appear to be a freak accident. 
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Oh dear, how very sad. Perhaps there were other complications - who knows, maybe that caused her to fall in the first place.... it's all speculation until official information is released.
The OH was knocked unconscious for about 5 mins last week whilst skiing - not to re-awaken the helmet issue (!) but I'm sure his injuries would have been much more severe if he hadn't been wearing one. All a bit close to home
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Very sad news this morning reported in The Mail Online. They say:
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Nastasha Richardson's family are gathering at her bedside as it was revealed the injured actress had been flown home to New York to 'spend one last day with her family'.
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'It's so sad. Vanessa, her sister Lynn, everybody is gathering in New York to say goodbye,' the close friend of the family told the Daily Mail last night , before adding: 'No one can believe what has happened, that this once vibrant woman, full of love, of life, is lying there brain dead.'
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Michelle, awful . It sounds like a freak accident.
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You know it makes sense.
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Oh how very sad. I know a bloke of similar age who fell at very low speed on a flat run to resort and whacked his head on the ground. Later that day he was admitted to hospital as he suffered a major brain haemorrhage. Fortunately he made a good recovery but was inhospital for 3 months.
Watched the Parent Trap a few weeks ago on a wet Sunday afternoon; a beautiful woman.
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Boredsurfing, Have to disagree on the helmet thing. Hardpack can be very hard, and a helmet will help soften the blow.
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Frosty the Snowman, hmm, I always wear my helmet on powder days, I guess the moral is not to ski on piste 
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| Boredsurfing wrote: |
| it does appear to have been a low speed tumble on a green run, just the sort of accident where a helmet would have made little difference. |
I would think this is where a helmet would make the most difference.
High speed big impacts will over come any protection offered in a standard helmet but this type of fall at low speed is where it should offer protection.
I also keep seeing the Freak accident remark, followed by a similar story, can I ask how many times it has to happened before it stops been a freak accident and turns into an accident?
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Dwarf Vader, yup agreed. The perception that all ski accidents are high speed collisions is simply wrong. A fall whilst standing still still can involve the head striking the floor hard, sometimes with fatal consequences.
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The Ski Club of Britain recommends children under 13 should wear helmets; its advice to adults is that headgear should be a matter of choice. "Out of 84,200 winter sports injuries recorded [globally] last season, 17,500 were head related," the club's website says. "It is believed that of those, 7,700 injuries and 11 deaths could have been avoided if they had been wearing a helmet." About 1.3 million Britons travel abroad for winter sports holidays every year. Dr Mike Langran, a GP who studies alpine injury rates, estimates 10,000 Britons are injured annually while skiing. Betony Garner, of the Ski Club of Britain, said: "Off-piste skiers wear helmets these days and therefore if you wear one it looks quite cool
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hmmm food for thought.
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Dwarf Vader, good point re the freak accident. I suppose I could say the same about julesb's recent event, it would be that the severity of the injury doesn't match up with skiing down a blue run, or I could if he could say with any certainty what happened. I don't suppose a helmet would have made the slightest bit of difference, as it was probably another skier hitting him in the back that caused the fracture. I still don't have a helmet, but it is top of my list, when I can find one that fits me properly. julesb will be wearing his, and is looking for a good back protector ( suggestions welcome).
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Helen Beaumont, he should take me as a back protector. During my rugby playing days I was good at watching peoples backs 
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Helen Beaumont, glad to see he's back to skiing again  I agree that a helmet may have not helped.
A back protector may help but if I had that injury I would do some neck, shoulders and upper body workouts.
He may end up looking like a prop forward with a neck as wide as his head but all that extra muscle and strength can only help to protect his spine in the damaged area.
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So very sad, my thoughts are with her family.
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Dwarf Vader, he still has to have a CT scan before he is 100% certain he can ski in April. He's lost a load of muscle tone in his shoulders already. The most strenuous thing he is able to do at the moment are Yoga and Pilates, he couldn't even raise a resistance band over his head with his left arm a couple of weeks ago, so he really needs to build some strength back up before he can play squash again (he's left handed). The right one is a bit stronger . However, I can't imagine him with a neck like a prop-forward though 
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You know it makes sense.
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Dwarf Vader, his physio is excellent, and he gets extra sessions from his Dad who is a retired physio and osteopath.
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Frosty the Snowman,
You are right, speed is not the only factor.
I had a bad fall exiting a chair last week in Canada and whacked my head on the ramp which was pretty solid.
Whilst it made me see stars for a moment I was Ok but the impact can clearly be seen on my helmet.
We said at the time that without the helmet I would at least suffered a nasty cut and probably needed a visit to the local hospital.
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Helen Beaumont, ref. back protector: I've just bought one for use on my motorbike which is so comfy (and wins all the group-tests in the m/bike mags) that I'll be taking it to Soldeu next week too. Called a 'Forcefield' summat-or-other, pm me if you can't find - £72.
I'd feel a bit of a twonk in the bike helmet too, but..
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a friend had a fall off her bike - whacked head on pavement. No helmet. Grazed, slightly bleeding. She was all ready to jump on her bike and ride home but fortunately a nearby householder who knew a thing or two insisted on calling an ambulance. On admittance to A & E she was fine - firing on all cylinders, knew what day it was and how many fingers they were holding up. But they were keeping a close eye. 20 minutes later she was showing signs of confusion and 30 minutes later in an ambulance - blues and twos from Portsmouth to Southampton neurosurgery where a very long operation, followed by some days in the high dependency unit, followed by a very long period of determined rehab saw her almost back to normal. Her concentration/focus/memory is not quite what it was. If she had done what she wanted initially - and ridden the five minutes back to home and put herself to bed - she'd never have woken up. It's the sort of thing which could happen to any of us, any time - for example falling off a shaky step ladder whilst painting a ceiling, whacking head on windowsill. Very, very, sad when it seems such a slight thing initially.
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BBC has now reported that she has died.
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| bh1 wrote: |
| BBC has now reported that she has died. |
Yes
There had been a lot of reports saying she was "brain dead", but it now seems to have been confirmed by her family that she has definitely died.
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Very, very sad indeed - my thoughts are with the family
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I wonder if she was skiing or boarding. Board falls by beginners can be violent especially on hard-pack. My thoughts go out to the family.
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This is really sad - and will probably spur me to get a helmet. Previously I'd thought they were just for kids (since their skulls are softer, they say) and for those going for high-octane stuff. But I'm really quite chastened by this. Any other snowheads feel the same or am I just a pussy?
BTW, and this is not really relevant, a brilliant guy who was my art teacher died on the piste a couple of years ago. Think it was a heart attack after a fall. He was 70. Magnificently cantankerous old git. His last words apparently were "Of course I don't need a bloody doctor!".
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Very sad news indeed -
May well spur more people to don helmets. There does seem to have been a steady increase in the numbers doing so - it took a knock on the head on hard packed snow three years ago to get me to go and buy one - all our family do now, the young, fit ones a few years ahead of us.
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Very sad news. My thoughts go to the family, also the instructor.
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