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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Been covered in the Arlberg SNow thread, but to clarify (at least as I understand it):
- They were with a guide, not an instructor
- When they say 'not authorised' they mean it is not a controlled piste - there is no ban on skiing this area, it's a fairly well known offpiste run which can't be closed/opened, so they weren't acting against resort advice
More here: http://www.skiadventure.eu/2013/avalanche-accident-zurs/
Very sad though.
Last edited by Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person on Wed 18-12-13 12:28; edited 1 time in total
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There's a surprising amount of very sobering detail in that report, especially with it being so soon after the event itself. And that there are unreleased instabilities around like this one before the season's really started, it doesn't bode at all well for when the snow starts falling in earnest.
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This thread has links to German reports on the avalanche.
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moffatross, Shallow snowpack is avalanche-prone.
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never summer wrote: |
moffatross, Shallow snowpack is avalanche-prone. |
It certainly is when there's no ice gluing it to the rock below it.
My thought was that there'd be a double-whammy in the Alps that'll last and last with the anticipated poor bonding of the impending 'layer 2' sitting on top of this hoar surfaced 'layer 1', which is itself obviously weakly stuck down in places.
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they had avalanche airbags and time to release and a guide to help
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and the avalanche warning level was 1.
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pam w wrote: |
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they had avalanche airbags and time to release and a guide to help
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and the avalanche warning level was 1. |
From a link elsewhere, the slope may have been around 40 degrees i.e. somewhat steeper than an Alpine black piste and as never summer hinted, if that was the first slab of snow on the rock, it may have comprised poorly bonded old snow that wouldn't have been the freshly laid windslab usually identified as high risk in avalanche bulletins.
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moffatross, wasn't there a fatal early season avalanche in the Espace Killy a few years ago, also at a time when snow cover was very thin?
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I am a bit confused about the stated risk level. The accident happened on Tuesday, but the article says that today is the first day when the risk level is set at 1 top to bottom. In any case even if the risk level is 1 there can be smaller areas with risk being higher. The slope itself appears to be in the shade which makes it more dangerous.
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