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Steve Angus wrote: |
Dougie wrote: |
Dougie wrote: |
Morning all, with only 5wks until we come to Tignes again, I am in full webcam watch and piste map study. I’ve only been to Tignes twice so still don’t know the area all that well. Being only a piste skier, I have a couple of questions for you if you don’t mind:
1. Do those dotted black run class as on piste as far as insurance goes? I don’t ski off piste (don’t know how; don’t want to pay for lessons to learn; don’t want to pay for equipment to do it, etc.) but I’m not bothered about whatever conditions I am faced with generally.
2. When are those ski races this year? We went to Tignes last year when there were races down the Orange under Marmottes. I only ask because I was skiing the afternoon with the kids and heading down to La Daille on the blue. My kids were scared to death by racers buzzing far too close to them on their way down. My kids have only skied 3wks in total and it totally knocked their confidence. If I know in advance, I’ll feel better.
3. How come there isn’t a piste down from Manchest Express to Val d’Isere? Purely out of interest especially when piste map shows a restaurant. I’m not planning on checking it out or anything: just wondering.
4. My brother went to tinges years ago and he tells me that they used to get on the bottom of the Bollin and get all the way to the top of the Fraise. As I say, I’ve only been twice but both times, we have always had to get off and get back on again. Any explanation or reason?
5. I noticed that I have not skied the Genapy. Can you get all the way down to Val d’Isere from the top of Borsat? Every time I’ve skied Santons, it’s been rubbish. Not that it’s too hard or anything. Just narrow, busy, and generally rubbish. Didn’t know there was a black above it. What’s that like?
6. Finally, Valley Perdue - not for me. Having watched Graham Bell on YouTube going down it, what’s it really like? What’s it like now? Will,it hold up until 1st week in April.
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Edited: changing wording slightly. |
Here goes with some replies for you:
1) Yes they are classified as pistes for insurance as marked trails just not pisted! BTW you dont need special kit to learn to ski off piste if you dont want to!
2) You're talking about the Scara races - week of the 2nd-5th April I believe it is this year. Yes (and its not just racers but members of the public too) it is the bain of my life people buzzing others and affecting their confidence - its AMAZING how often this happens - grrrr
3) There's no piste mainly as its very flat - to flat to ski. The restaurant is mainly there for the Summer months trade but obviously owners want it mentioned for the Winter months too so when its safe enough to get there in the Winter its quite popular location!
4) The Bollin Fresse lift had technical issues pretty much from the day it was built back in the late 1990's and for years they tried to keep the mechanics working so you could if you wanted go bottom to top in one go but they have given up with that all now so you have to get off and back on again!
5) Genepy piste turns into Santons! The black Epaulet du Charvet is not and easy option no!
6) Yes will be fine into April. Its a pain in the ****run if you ask me. I always say its James Bond meets, Indiana Jones, meets snowplough / sideslipping survival. Its nice for a bit of fun but otherwise I wouldnt bother personally.
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Thanks very much for the comprehensive reply. Everything answered brilliantly. Cheers
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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ElzP - thanks for commenting and reading. You go! Thanks!
Dougie - coolio
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Ps an 11th one:
Beware of well meaning friends and family. Often thinking they'll know where's best for your development or how to teach someone or where theres 'an easy slope because it's graded a green' etc. For example Monday morning I ALWAYS see friends bringing scared s**tless friends and family down the Verte; teaching them. I can assure you / them that they'd be MUCH better off on the magic carpet and definitely not on the Verte. Theyre probably not only been knocked backwards but in some cases their weeks skiing will be destroyed and confidence so badly knocked they often won't want to ski anymore.... Yes it does happen.
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@Steve Angus, There’s hints of a retour d’est forming in the next couple of days, the first this season IIRC. That should help fill the gorge (or start to anyway).
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chocksaway wrote: |
@Steve Angus, There’s hints of a retour d’est forming in the next couple of days, the first this season IIRC. That should help fill the gorge (or start to anyway). |
Oh that would be good news (the retour) - love a Retour!
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franga - well thank you!
Frosty the Snowman - thank you too!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Off piste report: rubbish. If you enjoy muscling through half set concrete then please do carry on. Bailed. I’m saving my legs/knees for another day.
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9.50 for a bacon sandwich??!!!
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You know it makes sense.
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@Canuck, close, 11.30 bacon and sausage baguette at La Cantina
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Dr John - yes got a little warm today BUT at altitude I hear there was some decent snow certainly in the morning (above 3000m or so). Getting a lot colder tonight so that should dry the snow out somewhat!
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Steve Angus wrote: |
Some celebrity or other in The Corner this morning! |
Who is that punter in the middle not wearing a transceiver?
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Kenzie - no idea - some woman who snuck in for a bacon sandwich at The Corner!
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Controlled
There was a little more fresh snow this morning but the temperatures were once again warm. The clouds were (as they have been on and off the last couple of days) to decide if they either want to clear or cloud over. We got sorted and I took the kids up to ski club.
My team were a little late as is the norm and when they arrived there were some sore boot complaints but I think the main issue for them is that they are fatigued at the end of the week. The weather, choppy snow etc all combine to make it a tough and tiring week and when yours truly is working them hard its not surprising its tricky, not surprising they are tired!
Anyway we got going and headed up Solaise... it was choice for them.... either have visibility (well better anyway) but busier and more bumpy pistes towards Bellevarde and Tignes direction OR head Solaise and possibly Fornet way for quieter slopes, less churned up but probably worse vis... you cant have it all! Anyway they chose Solaise and off we went.
A few warm ups on an amazing Madeleine in awesome condition before heading down Arcelle which was also in the VERY best possible condition - ever... it was ace. It was so good I looped around for a second time.
It was then, half way down Arcelle, that it happened... I got controlled. For those who dont know, when teaching in France you are on public land and much like a routine police stop on a UK road and you are asked for your driving license etc by the Police, the French police (well the French Ministry of Sport) have the authority to stop you and ask to see your instructing license! You can be arrested and fined if you cant prove you are licensed by the state with the correct qualifications, authorisation to work and insurance etc. I seem to be the luckiest person ever as today was only the second time 17 years I have been controlled and the last time was back in 2010 I think it was or possibly 2009! Others have been controlled many many times. Anyway so they skied up to me whilst I was teaching, showed their authority ID and asked me some questions, checked my qualifications against their electronic database - which of checked out of course and commented the snow was nice today.
Off they went, all very easy. Quite exciting really all in all!
Anyway we took coffee at the Ouillette which had a problem with their loo's so ended up also having to go to the Lounge to use the facilities there before working on some carving on the Glacier run and taking linch at Datcha. BLIMEY the portions at Datcha were HUGE! I mean MASSIVE. I had spaghetti with meatballs which was lovely and the amount of parmesan cheese on top was eye watering! I mistakenly also took a cheesecake for pudding which I could barely finish but having taken it really had too - yummy too.
The afternoon we tried heading to the up and over direction and found some nice snow heading in the bowl under the gondola but the vis was very changeable! After a couple of hours in there the legs were too tired so we called it a day and headed home!
This evening has been the usual sorting the kids out. Olivia had a nice day (although had a run in with a friend and her parents - whoops) as they all went down to Breviere for a 'free-ski' day out and I think it was nice for them just to be friends who ski! Lucky kids had a yummy lunch down there in the L'Armailly too. Back to the A game tomorrow as they have a slalom race (Chamois) tomorrow and then on Saturday it is over to Tignes for the Super G on the stade - go Olivia go!
Ben enjoyed his ski with friends too. They went to the park and did lots of jumps apparently - he loved it!
So tomorrow I am working (last day) with this booking in the morning and then in the afternoon probably am off and have some meetings and also need to video my weekly snow report too!
The weather tomorrow will once again be mixed.
Im shattered so off to bed.
TTFN
My little champion! She's very proud of having the Val d'Isere eagle on her helmet! Pity she didnt smile in the photo though!
Meanwhile in Val the weather was different to over in Tignes!
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A bit of a bonus
I didnt sleep that well last night for some strange reason but another work day is another work day! Looking out the window it was so uninspiring it really was. The clouds were REALLY thick and there was no way you could see the top of the mountains - yes over the road but that was about it.
The kids were gotten ready for skiing, I got myself ready and then we all headed to the meeting point. I had a sneaking suspicion that they might not want to ski today given the weather - the whole week has not been the best for them in terms of the weather therefore it would not surprise me! Alas about 0830 my phone beeped to say 'lets check the weather but for now we aint coming out'... so at the meeting point I wasnt really waiting for anyone in particular but it was nice to have chats and catch up with people. After the meeting point cleared out, all the kids were off skiing and it was just a few of us left I headed up into the murk, recorded my weekly TDC snow report and then recorded for the clients what the weather was really like up there and sent it to them as I knew it would be the nail in the coffin as far as their decision was concerned. No surprise they decided a massage and some shopping would be a better and more enjoyable morning for them!
I had a short (but slow as you really could not see anything whatsoever) ski down to La Daille and called it a day!
Clare was collecting the kids from ski club (Olivia is having a rest afternoon back here with a friend from Club) and being the taxi driver. Ben is having a fun day with Club im sure and tomorrow Olivia has a Super G race on the Stade in Tignes and having come 2nd last year she is hoping to go one better this year... we shall see.
Ill be collecting Ben from club shortly and im hoping to settle down to a nice evening catching up on TV / watching the GS race in Aspen on TV and maybe enjoying a cold beer as a Friday night treat.
The weather forecast for next week is once again looking very spicy indeed... Sunday could bring a LOT of new snow and intense winds and then whole week could bounce around just like this week - time will tell.
TTFN
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Rock and roll!
Well as predicted its been one of those day when you are glad to be indoors.
The night however was rather interesting according to Clare as she got up to go to the loo at 0445 and found Ben in front of the TV!!! I vaguely remember hearing Ben and her having an argument along the lines of 'get into bed its the middle of the night'. Anyway I was up as normal at 0700 getting ready for my lesson at 0900 and it was very uninviting out there... I had had my Sunday treat breakfast of eggs on toast all by myself in total calmness (bliss) and even finished my tea before Clare and Olivia (no need for them to get up this morning!) got up about 0800. Ben obviously did go back to sleep thankfully (he really needs a good sleep before going back to school tomorrow!) as it was 0915 before he re-appeared! Wow!!!!
Anyway my am client pulled the plug on the session long before I had even got as far as getting my ski boots out the locker so it was a real treat to have a total family chilled am!
There was some homework by the kids done, Clare cooked up a family favourite of lasagne for lunch and there was also the Ladies Super G race to watch on the tv. A very chilled am.
Outside the weather warnings have continued to build... a lot of snow and wind with avalanche danger building into a 4 day and on the frontier between France and Italy up to a 5. There is a lot of snow falling out there - the vis is non existent and there are limited openings - basically only the lower slopes and they decided to keep (as the winds and snowfall up that side is more significant) the Solaise and Fornet / Pissaillas area totally shut today! With the storm set to intensify tonight before clearing about breakfast time I suspect there will be a LOT of avalanche control work that needs carrying out and a delayed opening. At the same time there will be a lot of people with the sunshine and the first full day of their holidays very excited to get up there!
At lunchtime Ben and Olivias (like them they are also brother and sister) best friends respectively came around for a play... we've just demolished the lasagne and they are now playing Nintendo Sports on the Switch and Ben is off to a birthday party with his friend this afternoon and the girls are taking a swim!
And then this evening it will be full hands on deck to get the kids ready for being back at school tomorrow. Yes even the local school holidays have now finished and we are in for a few calm weeks of early Spring and then before we know it Easter will be on the horizon! In fact I only have 6 weeks left of the season before I put my ski gear away and my mind turns to the building works upcoming.
Anyway as you can imagine it is carnage with a double playdate going on in our small flat at the moment. Ill be back tomorrow for an update.
TTFN
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I am seeing photos of the blizzard conditions this evening in Val d'isere.
A real "retour d'est'.
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Send some over here to Les arcs would you
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welshflyer - it sure is - a big one!
belette - sorry were keeping it!!!!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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GeorgeVII - bonkers eh!
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You know it makes sense.
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That slide photo prompted me to have a look at the piste map - I see Mangard has been upgraded to red on this year’s map, anyone know why?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Aitchotee wrote: |
That slide photo prompted me to have a look at the piste map - I see Mangard has been upgraded to red on this year’s map, anyone know why? |
Not just Mangard. Anyway they are re-appraising the pistes now there are more download options available e.g. gondolas etc around resort (whereas chairs you generally could not download on easily) and trying to get people to take the sensible option!
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Poster: A snowHead
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It was crazy busy out there today(even over lunchtime) not just the slopes and lifts but also in town.
Bonus was the challenging conditions meant the vast majority of skiers controlled their speed.
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muppet wrote: |
It was crazy busy out there today(even over lunchtime) not just the slopes and lifts but also in town.
Bonus was the challenging conditions meant the vast majority of skiers controlled their speed. |
You know what @muppet was about to add that second sentence! On a day like today people are forced to actually ski and thus slow down - magic!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Steve Angus wrote: |
Aitchotee wrote: |
That slide photo prompted me to have a look at the piste map - I see Mangard has been upgraded to red on this year’s map, anyone know why? |
Not just Mangard. Anyway they are re-appraising the pistes now there are more download options available e.g. gondolas etc around resort (whereas chairs you generally could not download on easily) and trying to get people to take the sensible option! |
A new game! Spot the difference! That’s the rest of my evening sorted
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Very sobering. When a car hits an established tree, sometimes a bit of bark comes off the tree. A whole swathe of established and tightly packed woodland has been completely obliterated.
The forces involved must have been huge, and chances of survival if anyone had been caught in it.....zero.
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@Frosty the Snowman, indeed, very sobering and immense natural forces on display. Even being caught by the falling woodland debris could cause serious injury or fatality.
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Aitchotee - dont think it will have taken you a whole evening as there is not that many changes!
Frosty the Snowman / sno trax - totally. I always remind people that slides can look quite benign BUT... imagine an area of snow the size of a squash court a metre deep sliding. A cubic metre of dense avalanche snow weighs 1000kg (its water basically isnt it!). So that squash court area moving weights circa 50 tonnes im gonna say.... thats an articulated lorry of weight coming at you!!!! Moving at 1mph could break a leg or whatever but moving at 50mph and even a tree probably hasn't got a chance.... A football pitch area is expentionally more powerful if it gets up momentum - hey presto. Have you seen my instagram post of the PIDA slide next to Cugnai chair yesterday - WOW just WOW!
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Any Snowhead stuck on the Mont Blanc chair late on Monday evening? I see 64 passengers had to be lowered down by a team of 33 STVI and STGM climbers. It took 1 hr and 40 mins which is a sobering thought given it’s a low chair with not that many folks on it. Just imagine a full Tommeuses late in the afternoon (especially just after Folly chucking out time!). One of the reasons I carry a space blanket.
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There was once we got very wet in Les Contamines (one of those days) and this oldish chair stopped for about 5 minutes. Our kids were quite young at the time and it is was quite worrying!
We've all seen the movie right
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chocksaway wrote: |
Any Snowhead stuck on the Mont Blanc chair late on Monday evening? I see 64 passengers had to be lowered down by a team of 33 STVI and STGM climbers. It took 1 hr and 40 mins which is a sobering thought given it’s a low chair with not that many folks on it. Just imagine a full Tommeuses late in the afternoon (especially just after Folly chucking out time!). One of the reasons I carry a space blanket. |
In all my years here that's only the second time its happened (speaking only about Val as cant vouch for anywhere else!) that im aware off. Other time was when the (at the time brand new) Fontaine Froid lift broke down on its first day of operation... mainly as someone forgot to put diesel in the back up generator - whoops! Either way not ideal when this happens but the pisteurs do train for this eventuality!
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