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Arctic Roll, I noticed Valentinos(?) changed hands, ate there first night, nice pizza's, excellent chips. Anywhere else to be recommended in 1950 with kids?
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thefatcontroller, the pancake place would be fun for your kids.
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thefatcontroller, interesting - everyone else says avoid! Maybe we'll give it a look tonight.
Seems to be a mother / daughter combo, while dad runs the equivalent in Tignes. Left the name as the Nonna Lisa, which was what replaced Valentinos last year.
As Rob , the pancake place (la Bolee Creperie to give it its proper title) always goes well, both sweet and savoury and IMHO does the best hot chocolate. however if yours are like mine, they will find that they prefer the most expensive crepes on the menu (salmon , followed by Black Forest with whipped cream).
The Savoyard can also be a lot of family fun with a variety of hot stones, rebleuchon (sp? - melting cheese under a personal heater anyway) and fondues, also all with good chips. Again, nNot somewhere your bank manager will want you to go everyday (or your dietician...) but worth a trip to savour the local specialties of the Savoie. Very popular: you will need to book during the afternoon.
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| thefatcontroller wrote: |
| For those coming out soon be happy, very happy. |
3 weeks and 3 days 
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DamonST, Are you there half term?
Which Arc are you off to?
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While we are on the subject of food... there'll be 16 of us in a catered chalet come end of Feb in 2000. As standard, we have one night where we have to feed ourselves. Where should we go? I'm assuming that if the Cabriolet runs til 11pm, then that opens up 1950 for us for dinner options too.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Lunchtime report. Very changeable weather out there. Light snow at Transarc about 10, then sunshine in Montchavin, then snow in Belle Plagne and then snow and sunshine @ Roche del Mio.
Did Les Sources and then via our new quick route to Roche popped back up to do Inversions and Les Crozat. Lots of flat light about. I hate it. Grrrrr.
One way back to Vanoise wife had excellent wipeout on the 'Murs' black over Les Coches way. Sadly not got it on video.
Now back in the Solan in Peisey for lunch. Nice place but while I like an old play de jour, beef tongue put me of.
Afternoon planned in the 2000 bowl but what we do depends on weather and flat light. Would like to do Bois de L'ours but we shall see
Not my issue but think its stupid having 2 threads. Next season a Paradski only thread please. It is actually one ski area.
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You know it makes sense.
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thefatcontroller, nah, we need one thread for each village 
thefatcontroller, What was Olly Murs like? At Christmas it had been pisted top to bottom which made it a blue!
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Hi
Out this Sunday for a week. Looks as though some snow falling in the next couple of days which should freshen things up a little (although the existing cover looks to be fantastic still). What is the forecast for next week? Some uncertainity on the forecasts - could be sun or a mix of sun and clouds. Be nice to get a better idea - hope to see the sun a few times during the week !!
Regards
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Poster: A snowHead
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Arctic Roll, how's the leg been since the start of the week??
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Griggs - As you say, some uncertainty about weather forecast. Significant new snow tomorrow through to Sunday morning. Then mostly clear and sunny through to Thursday, with some cloud. Chance of more light snow on Friday. Colder than average from Tuesday onwards, with fresh winds. If it turns out like that I'll be happy enough next week.
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Not my issue but think its stupid having 2 threads. Next season a Paradski only thread please. It is actually one ski area.
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Not for everyone it isn't. I prefer the Les Arcs area and rarely (about 1 day in 30) ever go over to La Plagne. This might be because I am only there about 15 days a year.
John
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johnE, I agree with you - I tend to stay over on the Les Arcs side too - also I couldnt be doing with the tittle-tattle that goes on on the La Plagne thread
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snowcrazy, had some time spare this afternoon so popped up to the Arc 2000 tourist office to have a moan re the wireless. She asked where our apartment was and then took out a huge ream of paper and added our complaint to the long list of complaints they already have about it. They know the service is poo-poo, they have lots of complaints just not quite so sure they are going to do anything about it. 
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Our last afternoon ended early due to flat light. Heading back from La Plagne (boo hiss), we got of Derby to go down Reche to get to transarc, couldn't see a fecking thing on the slopes. I am useless on flat light, hate it. Up Transarc and Plagnettes was no better. Gave up at 2.30pm but we did go night skiing.
For those wondering, it is snowing up in Arc 2000
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What is "flat light"?
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Jenniper, when you cannot see the bumps and drops where you are skiing due to the light not reflecting off the undulating surface of the ground (or something like that). 
 Now for a report of our day on piste (well mostly) in Les Arcs.
Today the weather had changed. Overcast when I woke up and looked out the window. As my friend only have two days left we headed up anyway, although a little later at 10am to make a 'Grand Tour' of the whole Les Arcs Ski Domain.
Starting from Arc 1600 we headed across well groomed pistes to Peisey-Vallandry via the Arpette and Grand Renard chair and took the red Combe piste down which was in great condition and back up the Peisey chair. Then down the Ours Piste cutting off to go up the Grizzly chair in Vallandry. From the top, down the new Bordercross course having had a photo stop to see where we had skied on the Bellecote the day before. Across from the bottom of the course through the trees and up the Derby chair. Then a little off piste all the way down to the bottom of the Transarc in Arc 1800. 
Up to the top of the Transarc and a quick coffee stop before heading to the top of the Grand Col Chair for a little couloir training in the off piste area. After a bit of fun in the short steep gullies, a nice off piste route the whole way to Arc 2000 and then up the Varet Gondola just above Arc 1950 and then to the top of the Aiguille Rouge.
Now it was time for the long decent. None stop to Villaroger from the top of the Aiguille Rouge. On piste most of the way for once. Well, we did stop a few times to make a couple of detours off piste, but it was mostly on piste as the light was very flat. The piste the whole way down was in good condition.
Up the chairs from Villaroger and down the Rhonaz forest piste to Pre St Esprit and a very good late lunch at the Chalet which is now under new ownership, but it still has the log fire and great food.
Still not finished, up the Comborciere chair and down through Malgovert piste nature and a little variation I like on a steeper section to the Mont Blanc piste.
Finally arriving at the Beguin Hotel back just above Arc 1600 for a well earned drink before heading home.
This was a great circular trip covering all the highest and lowest points of the Les Arcs Ski domain and can be completed staying on piste the whole way if you prefer. All the pistes today were in great condition and with more snow expected, they should stay this way for quite some time. The only problem today was the light which came and went at various times during the day. However overall it was another fun day and as the photos show, full of variety.
Take a look at the pics in the photo section. 'Jan 2012 Album Two' on the Les Arcs Winter page
Here are three I liked from today!
(We skied down that yesterday! Jan 19)
(Time for a challenge! But I cannot see! Jan 19)
(Malgovert looks good today! Jan 19)
Last edited by Ski the Net with snowHeads  on Fri 20-01-12 0:49; edited 2 times in total
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snowcrazy, got it, thanks!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| snowcrazy wrote: |
| Jenniper, when you cannot see the bumps and drops where you are skiing due to the light not reflecting off the undulating surface of the ground (or something like that). |
Excellent answer, I read somewhere that if you are prone to sea sickness then it effects you more? Not being able to tell the contours etc throws your balance completely out. It doesn't effect my wife to badly but if its severe it leaves me a gibbering wreck who looks like someone on his first day on skis, it can also leave me close to vomiting on the slopes. Had a bad fall in flat light 2 years ago and now either head to the trees or go in. Yesterday we had skied hard anyway in the morning so we went in.
Last live morning weather report. It has snowed overnight in 2000 but still dark here so had to see exactly but I would say it only looks like a light covering so far, forecast is for plenty more later today tomorrow.
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Oh, ignore the last bit. looked out again. Chucking it down in 2000 now 
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White outttttttt. Hiding in the bubble bar in the middle of the 2000 bowl. Horrendous winds and heavy snow fall. Kids not enjoying this. Heading in shortly. Sadly not got time today but perfect boarding practice conditions.
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Poster: A snowHead
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I suffer REALLY bad from flat light. I have actually emptied my stomach twice at the side of the piste during white-outs.
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Flat light and white-outs not the same thing though, are they? It's possible to have very flat light at times when you can see stuff a long way away. You might be able to see, for example, trees or ski lift far away, but it's not possible to see whether there are any bumps and dips in the slope in front of you. If you know the run well, that's not a huge problem, but it does make life difficult and you have to have flexy legs and respond quickly to the messages through your feet. I had to do a schuss in flat light a few weeks ago - one I have done lots of times in the past - but I'd forgotten there's quite a roller in the middle and I nearly took off. Was a horrible feeling. But I couldn't have launched myself down that in a whiteout!
Was skiing with my son a few years ago in Tignes. We were going down a long blue slope whilst he decided to divert down a fun (for some) mogul field he had enjoyed the previous day. A few minutes later he caught up with me on the blue because standing at the top of the mogul field he couldn't see a single mogul - just a flat white sloping field. But it wasn't a white out, or anything like it, or I wouldn't have been out there at all.
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| pam w wrote: |
Flat light and white-outs not the same thing though, are they? |
To varying degrees they have the same effect on me. Flat light I keep my lunch but go slow.
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One run down from the top of Arcabulle to 1950 was enough for me. Skis were being lifted off the footrest by the wind and next to no visibility on Teppes. Had a walk through the 1950 underground car park and everyone leaving was having to chain-up, apart from one (Dutch) group who didn't appear to have chains!
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steven0123, tentative, and stuck mainly to reds and blues (odd mogul and black but nothing too adventurous): nevertheless a fun few days - I'll show you me bruise when I get in on Monday!
So back in the UK after a well acceptable overnight couchette to Paris. Agree with the flat light conditions on Thurs being terrible. However.
That morning, the gang got the "fresh tracks" 07:30 Bois de l'Ours breakfast treat with the ski patrol - along with 26 others. (Free! Near 1950! Can you believe it?) After a quality food provision at the top, skied with the patrol back to 1950, then, as Ours was still open for them, they went up and over to 1600 before anyone else was on the mountain ( except the bashers) - and into the bar for an early ahem 'chocolate' break. (I was still asleep at this point - didn't get out until 10ish) . They tell me that the dawn light was great, and it wasn't until later that things got really quite nasty. We started down Les Bosses for example (which hasn't been pisted for a while) and just had to bail - you really, really couldn't see what the terrrain was doing, and its not an easy run in perfect conditions, let alone without vision.
So I would recommend this opportunity to get out early to everyone who can make it - look for the chalk board at bottom of Bois de l'Ours advertising it the day before.
Thus bad light ( or as described "great light for the steam room") and the risk of snow on Thursday got us down into Bourg early evening for the train home. I've mentioned The Kosy restaurant before, but we went there again, and had a terrific meal and boy do you notice the difference in spending power of the Euro down in the town!
See you all again at Easter, and hopefully I'll be fitter and more able to join the off-piste fun and games.
PS anyone know when Mexican New Year is? - just been informed that they will be roasting a pig at the firepit in the main street to celebrate, but no-ne has given me a date.
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As I have not ventured out today, I have spent the morning doing odd jobs - cleaning the wood stove, windows(!!!), quite boring really, but the last hour, I have had great fun reading the discussion about flat light, and would like to contribute my "six penn'orth".
Yesterday, I decided to use the "flying handbag" to explore some pistes which I had never done before, but I had a dodgy start: after getting across the VE, I decide to take a short cut to Lac Noir bubble, by skiing immediately to the right, aiming for the ice rink and the small reservoir "cut through". But, due to the flat light, I misjudged the cut through to the left, skiied over a ditch, which I never saw, and my skis hit a deep snowdrift - STOP, my body didn't, describing a lovely forward somersault onto my head (fortunately wearing a helmet). No physical damage was done, and when I stopped laughing, another guy followed a similar track, and did the same, shouting "Merde". His son offered us both a helping hand, re crossing the ditch, but we shamefully declined. Only then did I realise that I had smashed my sunglasses (more of this later), and put my goggles on.
Shakily, I carried on towards Belle Plagne, and my destination was Les Verdons from Plagne Centre, an area which I have rarely ventured to in the past.
The piste I was interested in was a red - Mont de la Guerre, a long one which went all the way down to Champagny en Vanoise from the summit.
I couldn't even find the start - don't forget I had smashed my specs, but a very helpful lady just closing her snack bar near the top of Verdons summit, pointed me in the right direction along a blue piste. The visibility was appalling, but I struggled on. I only saw about six skiers/boarders the whole way down - all teenagers, who zoomed past me, quite oblivious to the crap light. Gradually the light improved as I got lower towards the forest. It was a great run, very wide for the most part, and I finally made it to the village, and jumped straight into the bubble for the return trip - exhausted.
Compared to the Aiguille Rouge run, down to Villaroger, which I have done dozens of times over the years, it was harder, even though it was only supposed to be a red piste. But, of course, the flat light made one helluva difference. If you like long runs, try it and see, but in GOOD LIGHT. It is an excellent comparison with Aiguille Rouge, and a lot quieter, I'm sure, even when the sun is shining.
By the time I arrived back at the midway point back up from Champagny, I was starving, so I dived into the Borseliers restaurant for a great Tartiflette, and a delicious cold beer. It made my day, but I couldn't read the menu, of course, and I didn't fancy "Plat du Jour" anyway - rabbit - I had too much of that in Malta a few weeks ago!
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Enough snow has fallen around Vallandry to make the sides of the runs lovely. Spent 3 hours skiing through the trees. Perfect conditions on and off piste (apart from the vis), and it's only going to get better, with more forecast overnight. Shame we go home in the morning!
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FAQ
Early afternoon was baked in glorious sunshine. Coldest place today...Bourg Saint Maurice at 5pm. Bloody freezing.
. Todays snow should finally cover it 