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| Frosty the Snowman wrote: |
| Planes & mountains tend not to mix. Pilot friend of mine says that Innsbruck is, by a no6 bus ride, THE HAIRIEST approach in his companies entire schedule |
No argument on that score but it's always good to get the adrenelin buzzing before you step off the plane. The main downside I have found with Innsbruck is the conditions forcing the plane to divert to either Salzburg or Munich which is a real pain if diy travelling.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Roy Hockley, I have sent you a PM
andyph, just don't go on the TO organised outings.
Much of the food is really good. Goulash and Wiener Schnitzel everyone knows, but local dishes such as Boiled beef with dumplings and horseradish are great too. Not to mention some great sweets such as Germknodel and Kaiserschmarm and cakes such as Linzertorte (apple strudel presumably needs no introduction).
Everything being cheese based is more Switzerland (or sometimes French Tarrentaise) . Think Vienna.
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| Frosty the Snowman wrote: |
| Planes & mountains tend not to mix. Pilot friend of mine says that Innsbruck is, by a no6 bus ride, THE HAIRIEST approach in his companies entire schedule |
Don't pilots have to have special training / a license to land there ?
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Frosty the Snowman, thanks for that snippet of info. Not.
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When we flew into Innsbruck a couple of years ago it was late afternoon and the sun was setting and all the mountains were tinged in pink and orange colours. It was a stunning sight, really breathtaking.
To be honest I preferred landing in clear weather where I could see the mountains! On another occasion there was a big storm and we bounced down into Innsbruck knowing how close those mountains were but not being able to see them.
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Innsbruck's my favourite!  Although early morning departures from there are often delayed because of the weather - normal service seems to resume again mid-late morning. I've never had to divert though. Yet.....
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Oh - and a word of warning for any laydees who may be wearing a skirt/dress. Not likely I know but you never know....
When you're in the departures side at Innsbruck, the toilets are downstairs. The hally part downstairs with the gents and ladies off has a part glass ceiling, which is the floor of the departure lounge.....
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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The only time I've landed at Innsbruck the plane did two turns to loose height within the valley once (it seemed) it was below the tops of the mountains. Awesome.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Pilots need mountain ratings for the mountain airports they fly into...
The only thing they might do more often than normal is bang the plane down hard onto the tarmac as they have less room for error.
Courcheval altiport is a one chance only landing and if you get it wrong, you stack it... as you can't outclimb the facing mountain...
Alway wanted to go in there on my mates rating... but I think we need to take an ex-commercial as well...
still hoping..
Innsbruck is great as is Sion..
Still thinking the OP should get their head round Austria... but I like Switzerland as they don't have the Euro, and are a bit inbetween the Austrain feel and the French skiing..IMO
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Poster: A snowHead
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| cathy wrote: |
Oh - and a word of warning for any laydees who may be wearing a skirt/dress. Not likely I know but you never know....
When you're in the departures side at Innsbruck, the toilets are downstairs. The hally part downstairs with the gents and ladies off has a part glass ceiling, which is the floor of the departure lounge..... |
Ssshhh! I've spent many a happy moment looking up there 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Timberwolf wrote: |
| Frosty the Snowman wrote: |
| Planes & mountains tend not to mix. Pilot friend of mine says that Innsbruck is, by a no6 bus ride, THE HAIRIEST approach in his companies entire schedule |
Don't pilots have to have special training / a license to land there ? |
That's that one struck of the list then! 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| snowball wrote: |
andyph, just don't go on the TO organised outings.
Much of the food is really good. Goulash and Wiener Schnitzel everyone knows, but local dishes such as Boiled beef with dumplings and horseradish are great too. Not to mention some great sweets such as Germknodel and Kaiserschmarm and cakes such as Linzertorte (apple strudel presumably needs no introduction).
Everything being cheese based is more Switzerland (or sometimes French Tarrentaise) . Think Vienna. |
I don't really do TO anything, if I can help it, hence the question about driving. Am I to conclude that it's just too far to drive?
And by cheese, I meant the music and thigh-slapping. I love fondue, tartiflette, raclette and all other manifestations of the fromagier's art.
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Bristol - Innsbruck plane lands at 11.10 am, in taxi 11.30am, in hotel 11.35am to dump bags and quick change, 11.40 hop back into same taxi and arrive at Mutters slopes at 11.50 to buy ski pass, 12.00 midday on piste for genuine half day skiing/boarding on first day of hols
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| andyph wrote: |
| Am I to conclude that it's just too far to drive? |
Assuming you mean from the UK to Austria? I worked out Leeds routes from viamichelin as follows:
to Val D’Isere is
Costs
186.63 EUR
Toll 63.32 EUR | Petrol 123.31 EUR
Time
14h32 which 10h04 on motorways
Distance
1379 km which 1128 km on motorways
Whereas to Stuben, Austria is actually loads nearer!!
Costs
139.89 EUR
Toll 47.62 EUR | Petrol 92.27 EUR
Time
10h30 which 08h14 on motorways
Distance
1041 km which 925 km on motorways
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| andyph wrote: |
| snowball wrote: |
andyph, just don't go on the TO organised outings.
Much of the food is really good. Goulash and Wiener Schnitzel everyone knows, but local dishes such as Boiled beef with dumplings and horseradish are great too. Not to mention some great sweets such as Germknodel and Kaiserschmarm and cakes such as Linzertorte (apple strudel presumably needs no introduction).
Everything being cheese based is more Switzerland (or sometimes French Tarrentaise) . Think Vienna. |
I don't really do TO anything, if I can help it, hence the question about driving. Am I to conclude that it's just too far to drive?
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No. there really isn't much in it. Some places in Austria are closer than some in France, others are a bit further. But there won't often be more than a couple of hours in it either way.
For example, viaMichelin gives:
Calais - Val Thorens 941Km, 9h 24m
Calais - Kitzbuhel 1103 Km, !0h 05m
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And by cheese, I meant the music and thigh-slapping. I love fondue, tartiflette, raclette and all other manifestations of the fromagier's art. |
Most of that happens at the bottom of the mountain (or part way up it!) between about 15:30 and 18:00. Not too difficult to ignore/bypass if you don't like it. I tend to head straight back to the hotel and not bother much with immediat apres-ski.
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| stanton wrote: |
Innsbruck Airport
March should not be a problem with diversions due to bad weather which it can be in the height of winter where flights are diverted mainly to Munich but can be Milan, Stuttgart Zurich or even Vienna
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Or Verona. The one time I was flying out of there in a snowstorm, most of the UK flights were diverted to Verona, which was about 3 hours down the motorway in a coach.
But my flight that day was with Lauda Air (the charter arm of Austrian), and they were the only commercial flights still flying to/from Innsbruck.
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Hmm... So I can get to Lech in about 100 miles further than PdS, but with lower toll fees. And 375 miles of that are in Germany at high speed... so it's only about an hour longer in drive time. If I build in an overnight stop then that makes no difference really.
Lift passes are more than Les Gets, comparable to PdS, but actually break even overall as the Austrians will allow my daughter to have a child pass. Hmm....
How do I go about finding chalet-style accomodation and catering in a nice location that's not too far from the slopes (meaning I want to be on a lift or skiing in less than 5 minutes)?
Edit: for about £450 a head.
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Andyph... How old is your daughter, the Arlberg pass is only 10 Euro for infants born 2002 and after... have pm re a great route for driving over here
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| sidneyreilly wrote: |
| Andyph... How old is your daughter, the Arlberg pass is only 10 Euro for infants born 2002 and after... have pm re a great route for driving over here |
That might have just swung it for me  Couldn't work it out from the website, is that 10 Euro for a week??
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Wait a minute. Just noticed the snow-chains thread concerning Austrian requirements. So if I've go this right, my car with regular tyres and snow-chains is legal in snow and ice but not slush, when the only legal set up is 4 winter tyres?  Well screw that for a game of soldiers.
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Lech (linked to Zurs), is a smaller (village and ski area), posher (more fur coats per square inch than almost any other ski resort) and ski-wise less challenging neighbour to St Anton. You can ski both on one ski pass and using a short bus ride (or challenging off piste) to get from one to the other.
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| andyph wrote: |
| Wait a minute. Just noticed the snow-chains thread concerning Austrian requirements. So if I've go this right, my car with regular tyres and snow-chains is legal in snow and ice but not slush, when the only legal set up is 4 winter tyres? Well screw that for a game of soldiers. |
AIUI, the winter tyres are only required for residents, but are recommended for everyone.
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| snowball wrote: |
| Lech (linked to Zurs), is a smaller (village and ski area), posher (more fur coats per square inch than almost any other ski resort) and ski-wise less challenging neighbour to St Anton. You can ski both on one ski pass and using a short bus ride (or challenging off piste) to get from one to the other. |
IMHO, Zurs has serious steeps, and you do not have to go far from the piste to get to them, eg the bowl on the left of the Madloch chair, or some of the lines possible from Trittkopf or Zursertali. There is piste between Zurs and Lech. To Lech, from Zurs, you go via Madloch and Zug. The other way takes you from Rufikopf to Hexaboden.
Agree on the fur coats. Zurs is serious money.
Same ski pass gives you access to St Anton, St Christoph, Stuben, Sonnenkopf, and Pettneu.
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| ulmerhutte wrote: |
IMHO, Zurs has serious steeps, and you do not have to go far from the piste to get to them, eg the bowl on the left of the Madloch chair, or some of the lines possible from Trittkopf or Zursertali. There is piste between Zurs and Lech. To Lech, from Zurs, you go via Madloch and Zug. The other way takes you from Rufikopf to Hexaboden.
Agree on the fur coats. Zurs is serious money.
Same ski pass gives you access to St Anton, St Christoph, Stuben, Sonnenkopf, and Pettneu. |
Yes, I was thinking of Lech (which I know from my childhood). Even here, though, I gather there is a bit of serious off piste from the cable car directly back to the village). I agree there is some moderately steep stuff at Zurs, though I don't know it well - mostly passing through it on the circuit off the back of St Anton to Zurs, around to Lech and back again.
I said Zurs was linked to Lech. But St Anton, as I mentioned, is only linked by serious off piste or a short(ish) bus ride.
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