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First ski trip - Zermatt or Alpe D'Huez?

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Yeah, I'm sure ADH is cheaper, but I'd definitely go to Zermatt out of those two, both of which I've ridden, but ADH only once.

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@phil_w, they might get up to the Klein Matterhorn and slide down past the Testa Grigia if they make good progress by the end of the week!! snowHead

Be worth going up just for the view on a clear day! Cool
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@luigi, Cervinia might make more sense for a beginner. The Matterhorn and the glacier for progression.
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tatmanstours wrote:
@luigi, Cervinia might make more sense for a beginner. The Matterhorn and the glacier for progression.


Yep, he's been told Zermatt is not ideal for beginners, but it wasn't my decision! Laughing
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@majkkali, If your heart is set on Switzerland why Zermatt specifically?

Lauterbrunnen / Wengen / Murren / Grindelwald (Jungfrau area) are all Hansl & Gretl style resorts that are stunning. . . the cog railway weaves its way up the mountain to the central location of Kleine Scheidig in Wengen from both Grindlwald and Lauterbrunnen.

If you want romantic, Lauterbrunnen is in a stunning valley that was the inspiration for Tolkein when creating Rivendell (the home of the elves). . . Murren up the valley is beautifully oldskool - no modern developments allowed and certainly no Ruski billionaires! As beginners I'd stay in Grindlewald - better spread of easy slopes and access to two main ski areas . . . the perfectly undulating Brandegg Blue (including a mid-station stop for a pastry) is possibly one of the prettiest / calming 'cruising' runs in europe (IMO) with fantastic views of the mighty Eiger . .

https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=dda36a92322d4771&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB919GB919&q=brandegg+blue+wengen&tbm=vid&source=lnms&fbs=AEQNm0Aa4sjWe7Rqy32pFwRj0UkWd8nbOJfsBGGB5IQQO6L3J_86uWOeqwdnV0yaSF-x2jo6Ttnu6iRjjgGjARfLolnBYg2tMdxbJFpG2a0dg6n0NSOUeL_Zp-ANwJjueSBq_UoE1Rqmx1qtxWQlddKd0bEv4-fvXrL1UXtmb7rYJIBkr79X849_zmlFz-2AGdL47Zwhhols&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjg-aL_iuSJAxUhU0EAHRKoIyQQ0pQJegQIEhAB&biw=1455&bih=672&dpr=1.1#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:5fc74f3a,vid:ljF_gqbNVjI,st:0


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PeakyB wrote:
@majkkali, according to the On the Snow website summary, 22% of pistes in Zermatt are graded blue (intermediate). 66% red (strong intermediate/advanced). 12% black (expert).

Good luck.


Yeah, he's been told Zermatt isn't ideal for beginners.

Obviously they will not be able to access the majority of the terrain, so it's complete overkill, but as long as they can get professional tuition, there are some gentle blue slopes up on Sunnegga to learn on. There are some nice blues above Riffelberg on the Gornergrat to progress onto with amazing views across to the Matterhorn.

If they make really good progress, the glacier runs from the Klein Matterhorn down to Schwarzsee are rated red, but not that steep. Just going up there and back as pedestrians on a clear day would be an amazing experience.

I think we need to focus now on helping him make a success of an imperfect decision.
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@luigi, you’re very generous with your advice. Other SHs have been too.
My latest thought is more ‘you make your bed, you lie in it’.
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After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
I think you will be fine. Its a holiday not a box ticking exercise. We are all focused on skiing so look solely at that. Zermatt is a beautiful place if you have the budget then go there its great.The ski school will be perfectly good and they will be as happy teaching complete beginners as guiding folk to the top of Monte Rosa.
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Zermatt - experience for newcomers depends a lot on accommodation. It is not the easiest ski resort for beginners. The village is pretty but it is very looong. Free public buses are usually packed till the brim.
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mooney058 wrote:
Zermatt - experience for newcomers depends a lot on accommodation. It is not the easiest ski resort for beginners. The village is pretty but it is very looong. Free public buses are usually packed till the brim.


Hopefully, the place they have is near the lift that will take them to where the lessons will be. I assume they will start on the magic carpets up at Sunnegga, so the Sunnegga funicular?? https://maps.app.goo.gl/UfE5p3GiWF75JzRg7

I did warn numerous times that schlepping across town with equipment would not be fun Shocked
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Most resorts look romantic when they’re white and snow is all around, especially if you haven’t been before, as it’s all new and exciting.

Even Flaine does (said with tongue firmly in cheek, as I really like the place).
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Having spent a couple of holidays in Zermatt, admittedly a long time ago, I have positive memories of the beautiful scenery, the magnificence of the Matterhorn, the horse-drawn carriages, and the sense of being in a very atmospheric and historic part of Switzerland…oh, and the spectacle of my wife pelting the commissionaires of the Hotel Zermatterhof with snowballs.

I have less positive memories of the disjointed ski areas, the waiting for and catching of crowded ski buses (something I have now thankfully virtually eliminated from my life), the long ride on the Gornergrat train, the underwhelming après-ski, and the high prices.

But it’s worth experiencing at least once.
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tatmanstours wrote:
disjointed ski areas


Thankfully that has largely been sorted with some well placed new lifts. Once you're up on the mountain, you can access all areas without having to return to the village until the end of the day.

tatmanstours wrote:
the long ride on the Gornergrat train


That's still there though...some would say it's a romantic way of accessing the mountain! Laughing
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some would say it's a romantic way of accessing the mountain!

And more romantic than crashing onto your already-badly-bruised coccyx for the third time in twenty minutes. Or tripping over your free foot whilst trying to scoot.
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