 Poster: A snowHead
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@jedster,
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I don't understand how people lift the bar early if your skis are on the footrest.
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I tend to lift mine early. I worry about getting in a tangle at the last minute.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@Origen,
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And I don't see how they lower them too quickly if you have a hand up to stop them (which I've done automatically for years).
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spare a thought for those like me who have a short upper body and short arms. I often can't reach the bar.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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And I don't see how they lower them too quickly if you have a hand up to stop them (which I've done automatically for years). A lot of fuss about nothing, if you ask me. I particularly wonder why people who claim to have been bashed on the head many times just continue to sit there and do nothing, waiting for it to happen again. |
I don’t think you’ve followed a lot of the comments in the thread, we are talking about people who DO normally put a hand up and control it, but there are now the “sit-slammers” who are yanking it down before you have had a chance to. And not a lackadaisical, sit down, shuffle, wait, then put you hand up. We’re talking about bum has not even touched, or literally just touched the seat, and bam! Bar is down.
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@ish303, I put it down to the insidious march of post-modern conceptualisation of the self, exacerbated by the social isolation of COVID, the aural isolation caused by in-helmet headphones, the interiority created by modern goggles and the self-oriented ideology of modern capitalism.
This means that solepcism becomes a way of life. There is only ME, and then there are OTHERS. They are NOT ME.
I need the bar down. It is coming down. OTHERS are an impediment to this.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@ish303, I've never had my head bashed. Must just be lucky. But I think my hand goes up pretty damn quick, just to forestall the slammers. I'm trying to envisage it - a reflex, almost. I've not skied since last Easter and that was on VERY uncrowded slopes and lifts (like almost all my skiing) and perhaps the very uncouth habit you describe is a feature in the big, crowded, internationally famous resorts which I have generally avoided. 
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A fourth person joined in on our chair right at the last minute, squashing me sideways into the other 2 passengers, and almost taking my feet and skis out from under me. The chair concerned has an entrance that narrows considerably after the barrier and I just managed to get on there, but I am afraid the other members may just have bashed his head very slightly  as they put the bar down, as they were far too busy concentrating on my welfare than that of the idiot who had almost caused an accident.
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If people behave like idiots there's no system or approach which is going to be fool proof. Shoving your way onto a chair at the last minute is stupid and thoughtless.
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@Origen, one of my partner’s friends is … well … grumpy. She came back to our place in a REALLY foul mood. Unapproachable. It turned out (from an account from the bubble behind) that she had been slow in getting into the old POMA bubbles we had, and while bending down attending to her daughter’s jammed stick, the doors had closed on her derrière. Everything else was in, and that was sticking out, with the doors jammed against each side. The pisteur responded swiftly, and with a hand straight onto each cheek just shoved hard, and in she went, and the doors snapped shut, and off went the bubble. His action caused Great Offence. And in our household the incident caused Much Amusement.
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@valais2, 
I have fallen in and out of bubbles countless times. But then I am preternaturally clumsy. Generally people are very kind and tolerant in the face of my antics.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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@Hurtle, I am sure you are clumsy in a fantastically elegant manner …
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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It begs the question why were you looking after a random child?
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Not been on many European chairlifts then, @Whitegoldsbrother? |
Plenty
Always refuse to look after randoms
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You know it makes sense.
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@Mjit,
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seen everyone was correctly seated
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If the bar hit her on the head, she obviously wasn't correctly seated. Also begs the question why you didn't keep a hand on the child, rather than force down a bar which is (I assume it was that sort of bar) supposed to operate automatically. |
It begs the question why were you looking after a random child? |
You've never had to do that? Quite common in my experience to get to a chair and fine a ski school lane of little children who just need a random adult to 'accompany' them. Basically just making sure they get on and off and there's at least 1 pair of legs long enough to reach the safety bar footrest and so hold it down. |
No, never cos when asked always refuse. I mean why would you?
Not my monkey, not my problem.
If instructor can't manage then get another instructor.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Kindness.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Decency.
And the opportunity to practice one’s French with somebody who can’t conceive why your own French is so rubbish…
And one small child taught me that the French for snow is farine. Google suggests that it isn’t…
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Classic trolling from @Whitegoldsbrother. Nothing gets people more annoyed than the ugly side of humanity.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@Legend., indeed
‘Monkey’
Grief
The Groms and Grommettes are the next generation - they are the future and the way in which we nurture them will determine the shape of society.
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| Whitegoldsbrother wrote: |
| No, never cos when asked always refuse. I mean why would you? |
Because it's what a decent human being would do and most of us would rather be seen as decent people, not filed by others under "I wouldn't wee wee on them if they were on fire".
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Hmm but, god, people trying to tug down the automatic bars 
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@ollski2.0, presumably you haven't read the comments above alluding to the fact that it's difficult, with some of these chairs, to know that they're automatic, when you're new to them.
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@Hurtle, …and when I am tired and flustered I am capable of making almost any and every mistake…
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@valais2, absolutely
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| Hurtle wrote: |
| @ollski2.0, presumably you haven't read the comments above alluding to the fact that it's difficult, with some of these chairs, to know that they're automatic, when you're new to them. |
No I haven't but signs and chairs in front give a clue
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@ollski2.0, oh do shut up
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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@Hurtle, …in Feb I was so absolutely wiped out that at Lauchernalp I followed the pair in front closely into the unfamiliar ancient ‘chairlift shed’ only to find that it’s laid out in such a way that if you do that you can get swept up by the incoming chair and barrelled into the two people chatting to each other waiting for the chair. A quick sidestep, step back and squeeeeeze against the tiny shed wall solved it but I felt VERY stupid. Just not paying attention though fatigue….
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Hurtle wrote: |
| @ollski2.0, oh do shut up |
Terribly sorry, had no idea you were quite so sensitive x
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@valais2, that happened to friends of mine on an old two-man chair in Notre Dame de Bellecombe. They ended up sitting on the laps of two people already ensconced. Fortunately liftie stopped the chair. Can't remember how that chair worked - it's been replaced since.
Chairs are more foolproof than they used to be. And some of the draglifts in the Arly Valley would not be allowed to be built these days - they are "hors normes". It seems that we are all more in need of care and protection from our own idiocy now than was deemed to be necessary in the past. Those drag lifts which hoist you into the air for the first part of the journey, especially when you were the first rider for a while, could be quite fun......
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You know it makes sense.
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| Mjit wrote: |
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| No, never cos when asked always refuse. I mean why would you? |
Because it's what a decent human being would do... |
There you have it!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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And the opportunity to practice one’s French with somebody who can’t conceive why your own French is so rubbish
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And be humbled by a 5 year old who can speak two languages fluidly.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| And be humbled by a 5 year old who can speak two languages fluidly. |
Fluidly? Like verbal diarrhoea ?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I've had some lovely conversations with French kids on chairlifts. They are more straightforward than adults. "You talk funny" accused one 6 year old. Whereas adults, used to Brits being completely useless at French, are generally polite about my (slightly better than average) efforts. One very self possessed young Mauritian lad told me he was a much better skier than his younger brother (also on the chair) and about some famous Mauritian dishes which his mother made.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@ster, more of less. - damm auto correction.
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