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The All New 12/13 Weather Outlook Thread

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nozawaonsen, Today in the Times, Paul Simons, weatherman, alluded to the discovery of a strange pool of warm water off Newfoundland, coupled with heavy snowfall over northern Europe and Asia, blocking off the milder gulf stream air, thus allowing polar air to pour in to the UK. He then goes on to link this to increased polar ice melt and if true, will lead to more regular big freezes in December. Would you concur?
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Lots of snow forecast for the French alps today;
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Above 800 meters, the amounts will be around 40 to 60 cm in Isere, Savoie and Ain
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An avalanche risk of 5/5 has also forecast for this evening.
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The whole of Germany currently under a blanket of snow (of varying thickness's though). According to the local meteorologists this is a relatively rare event and is due to the negative NAO that is controlling the weather at the moment. Long may it last as far as I'm concerned!

Nice today and tomorrow but the real storm with sleet and snow and awful road conditions will come in punctually for Sunday/Monday. This means a 'mare of a commute for me as the bloomin' Municher's answer to snow and ice is either to go dead slow and hold everything up or floor the accelerator and hope everything gets out of their way! Either way it ends up as chaos Laughing Evil or Very Mad

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Chucking it down with big fat snowflakes at the moment here, and settling.

Worth remembering, it's currently Autumn.
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In Dusseldorf at the moment. Completely clear roads this morning, then 5 cm of snow in 2 hours, has eased off but is still coming.
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hmm not looking forward to my drive down to Austria on Monday.
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Mr Piehole, I thought the meteorological start of winter was December 1st? If that's right, then it is officially winter now isn't it? wink
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No, it's Autumn.
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So is Christmas in Autumn ? Puzzled
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Technically I think winter starts December 21-22 - ie, winter solstice
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Winter is about the 20th December onwards. Solstice to equinox innit.
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Astronomically winter starts on Winter Solstice. 21 December at 1112 this year. Also called the shortest day or midwinter. Meteorlogically winter starts in 01 December. So I guess you can take your pick. Either way 21 December is a good excuse to light a huge bonfire and eat lots of food.
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Astronomically wins, surely. Michael Fish can't beat God in an argument.
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Mr Piehole, Depends on whether God is a figment of your imagination or not.. wink

nozawaonsen, Hear mention of flights into GVA cancelled at the mo due to snow. Might be an interesting evacuation of 100+ sHs from Tignes tomorrow do you think?
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Mr Piehole, is God an astronaut?
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Mr Piehole, Depends on whether God is a figment of your imagination or not.. wink


It also depends whether Michael Fish is a figment of your imagination or not.

Think about it.
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nozawaonsen wrote:
Mr Piehole, is God an astronaut?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_Is_an_Astronaut

Yes.
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nozawaonsen, Hear mention of flights into GVA cancelled at the mo due to snow. Might be an interesting evacuation of 100+ sHs from Tignes tomorrow do you think?


I just went to the GVA website to check, and it's down!
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Mr Piehole wrote:
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nozawaonsen, Hear mention of flights into GVA cancelled at the mo due to snow. Might be an interesting evacuation of 100+ sHs from Tignes tomorrow do you think?


I just went to the GVA website to check, and it's down!


I managed to get on it fine? There was the odd flight cancelled here and there, but no mention of snow being the main effector.
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i've got a flight at 9am tomorrow from gva, really hope they get it all open for then but i'm not holding my breath Sad
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Callum001, I did too earlier, but it's down again now.
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Is Charles De Gaulle shut? All the geneva to Paris flights seem to have been cancelled.... (According to flightstats)
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From Geneva airport FB.

"Malgré les chutes de neige, Genève Aéroport reste actuellement ouvert. Des travaux de déneigement ont occasionné quelques retards.
Les conditions météorologiques ont affecté d’autres plateformes aéroportuaires au nord de l’Europe (Amsterdam, Francfort, Paris, Bruxelles, …) et ont occasionné des annulations et quelques déroutements vers d’autres aéroports.

Compte tenu de forte sollicitation de notre site internet, les passagers ayant un vol au départ de Genève sont priés de vérifier le statut de leur vol sur le site de leur compagnie aérienne ou via notre application mobile GVApp."

Despite snowfall Geneva is open, but other airports are affected. Heavy traffic on the GVA website means it may be easier to get up to date info on the Geneva Airport mobile app.
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Ibex, I've not seen the article, but there are certainly links suggested between SSTs (sea surface temperatures) near Newfoundland, autumn snowcover in Eurasia and negative Arctic Oscillation. The latter describes high pressure building to the north disrupting the polar vortex (the low pressure that builds over the Arctic in winter), which tends to force the jet stream further south allowing cold air to drop down across Europe.

Separately there is also research suggesting that lower levels of Arctic sea ice may lead the jet stream to become more meridional (so with a "wavier" pattern) which would mean more frequent blocking (fixed patterns of weather for periods of time). This could increase colder weather patterns for Europe in winter.

If you scroll back through this thread you'll find several articles on these topics.
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What is the likely temps and weather up until Christmas in the UK.
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Jerby, The UK has very wide variations - is there somewhere specific you're interested in?
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Was hoping to travel to Kent and Wales around xmas.
Just wondered if it was likely to get colder?

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nozawaonsen,Thanks, appreciate you taking the time and effort to answer Very Happy
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Jerby, up to Christmas is too far out to tell, but there is more cold weather and snow likely for many.

The meteorology behind the ‘Beast from the East’

Back in the Alps here's Meteo France.

"BEAUFORTAIN-VANOISE-MAURIENNE-HAUTE-TARENTAISE et HAUTE-MAURIENNE

Les chutes de neige prévues sont proches de 50/60cm en 24h avec des vents d'Ouest puis Nord (rafales 80 km/h). Les cumuls précédents étaient proches de 80 à 150cm en 72h de la Maurienne et le Beaufortain. "

- 50/60cm in the next 24 hours in the Beaufortain, Vanoise, Maurienne, Haute Tarentaise and Haute Maurienne.
- Gusts of 80kmh from the west then north.
- Total snowfall over last 3 days, 80-150cm for the Maurienne and Beaufortain.

It adds that large natural avalanches are expected peaking overnight, possibly affecting communications routes, habitations and lifts.

Looking at the GFS further snow looks likely from Sunday night through to early Wednesday across the northern Alps though more focussed on the eastern Alps. A warm up mid month looks likely too, but temperatures look like dropping back below average again shortly afterwards. FI was cold and often snowy.

All in all a lot of snow. Enjoy it if you can!

I'm watching from the sidelines for the next two months whilst recovering from surgery from an early season tumble. Drat (and ouch). Should be back on the road soon...

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nozawaonsen, bad luck for you Sad But good luck for everyone else who follows your excellent posts. I hope the pain is not too bad and that you are back on skis before the end of the season. snowHead
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nozawaonsen, bad luck for you But good luck for everyone else who follows your excellent posts. I hope the pain is not too bad and that you are back on skis before the end of the season.


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+3 I'd never read this thread properly before... damn its good Very Happy Thank you nozawaonsen snowHead
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I've given up reading the online news every morning, this thread is just so much more interesting. nozawaonsen you are legend Very Happy Very Happy
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Get better soon Noza Very Happy
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nozawaonsen, who is winning the battle in "the beast from the east"? Will it be the east and the cold, or the west and the warm?
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Nozawaonsen - best wishes for a speedy recovery. Love the thread and appreciate the time and effort you put into it. Very Happy
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