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I asked this question of our hotel in Solden when i was there a few weeks ago and they hadn't had any children of that age as they had all cancelled finding the Ninja pass too difficult and worries about what would happen if any tests were positive. There were a few kids about in the resort but all looked far younger than 12.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Roguevfr wrote: |
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| Scarlet wrote: |
| @EarthWindandWater, it’s from the 3rd jab. 2nd jabs alone are only valid for 180 days now. |
Thanks Scarlet you might know this too: for us tourists (!) is it worth downloading the GreenPass app, or is the NHS one adequate? Ta |
Green pass app gives 1-touch access whereas my nhs one needs sign in every time. Otherwise either will do.
I've found virtually every shop and cafe/bar/restaurant will ask for it. |
We have all uploaded to Apple wallet and that has been fine for everything from airport check to ticket office to bars and restaurants both in town on on slopes
My son lost his phone just before coming out so he has a paper copy and that has been accepted with no questions asked
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@SheffMark, thanks. Having moved the holiday already we've decided to chance it! We are also self catering which may help. The rigorous testing seems extreme given us (albeit boosted) and the 11 year old requires none.
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Just out of curiosity... anyone with very recent experience of getting in with 2 doses and recovery without a PCR, using the NHS app? The Austria.info site is still saying that recovery documentation has to have the date of recovery on it, which the NHS QR pass doesn't (only the expiry date of the pass itself which is a month after you obtain it).
Whist I suspect the actual recovery date is encoded into the QR itself, just curious if anyone is getting challenged on when their recovery actually happened because it's not written in plain text?
(Easy on the groundhog pics please chaps...!)
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Hayls, Do you or anyone know if a 14 year old has 2 vaccines they can definitely avoid the Ninja pass?
From what I’ve gathered on here, he needs a PCR to get in, but then once in it is 2G, so will that cover the ski pass too without the need for Ninja pass? Leave Saturday and really hoping this is the case.
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@Gilly28, yes they can avoid it. Just PCR. We are tempted to try a walk in at 'post 10 weeks' jab 1 just before we go to see if they will vaccinate early.
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@Hayls, @Gilly28, just reading this thread and confused - my 12 year old with 1 vacc just recovered from CV but via LFT as PCR no longer needed. So he can't get a 2nd dose for 12 weeks and can't get proof of infection without PCR - so I am not sure what we can do. Any advice?
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| Roguevfr wrote: |
| Green pass app gives 1-touch access whereas my nhs one needs sign in every time. |
Indeed, Google Pay too... think I'll try it =0)
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| prthomas wrote: |
| @Hayls, @Gilly28, just reading this thread and confused - my 12 year old with 1 vacc just recovered from CV but via LFT as PCR no longer needed. So he can't get a 2nd dose for 12 weeks and can't get proof of infection without PCR - so I am not sure what we can do. Any advice? |
You could get your Doctor to complete recovery cert for him. This along with 1 vaccine and a PCR test before you go should cover you i think. https://www.ris.bka.gv.at/Dokumente/Bundesnormen/NOR40240105/II_562_2021_Anlage_B.pdf
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@prthomas, We are in Scotland so recovery shows on pass (although mines didn’t) and our kids can get the app. My son at 14 has his, showing his two vaccines, he’s never had Covid though.
@Hayls, We got our son vaccinated at 8 weeks as we booked when they said between 8&12 weeks. They then changed it, however my husband took him in and told them the circumstances and they agreed to do it. He then did have a stumbling block when he took son to actually get it later that day. Eventually they gave it is when husband said if he can’t go he’ll have to stay with my sister who’s daughter is vulnerable (which is true) so they said oh we can use that as the reason!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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At risk of triggering another appearance of the groundhog, please can I canvass some collective opinion / knowledge?
Travelling to Austria via Munich with 2 kids in tow - is this interpretation correct?
- 14yo (double jabbed), doesn't require any tests to travel but requires a 72hrs PCR to get into Austria (but unlikely to be checked anyway!). I know that Ninja Pass is not needed due to the 2 jabs
- 11yo (obviously no jabs), Austria says no need for anything as travelling with vaccinated parents. However, assume the German rules apply due to us arriving there so a test is required (that seems to be how I interpret what's on the Lufthansa website but rather unhelpfully it mentions "international travel FROM (rather than to) Germany". From what I can tell the (cheaper) antigen (lateral flow) tests are accepted, but is that true of test at home ones (i.e. the cheapest)?
Thanks
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| schnitzel_skier wrote: |
At risk of triggering another appearance of the groundhog, please can I canvass some collective opinion / knowledge?
Travelling to Austria via Munich with 2 kids in tow - is this interpretation correct?
- 14yo (double jabbed), doesn't require any tests to travel but requires a 72hrs PCR to get into Austria (but unlikely to be checked anyway!). I know that Ninja Pass is not needed due to the 2 jabs
- 11yo (obviously no jabs), Austria says no need for anything as travelling with vaccinated parents. However, assume the German rules apply due to us arriving there so a test is required (that seems to be how I interpret what's on the Lufthansa website but rather unhelpfully it mentions "international travel FROM (rather than to) Germany". From what I can tell the (cheaper) antigen (lateral flow) tests are accepted, but is that true of test at home ones (i.e. the cheapest)?
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That's how I would interpret it too. Has the 14 yr old had covid and recovered? That is my situation (15 yr old) so hoping to avoid the PCR for entry to Austria by having proof of recovery. However, I am waiting for the digital covid pass 12-15 to go live to see if it includes recovered status (hoping somebody on here can confirm - believe it goes online on Feb 3rd in England - not sure about Wales).
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You know it makes sense.
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| ratechaser wrote: |
Just out of curiosity... anyone with very recent experience of getting in with 2 doses and recovery without a PCR, using the NHS app? The Austria.info site is still saying that recovery documentation has to have the date of recovery on it, which the NHS QR pass doesn't (only the expiry date of the pass itself which is a month after you obtain it).
Whist I suspect the actual recovery date is encoded into the QR itself, just curious if anyone is getting challenged on when their recovery actually happened because it's not written in plain text?
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The existence of a QR code for recovery shows that you are deemed to have recovered. It does not need a recovery date - it is assumed that you recovered 10 days after a positive test. The date of the positive test is shown, plus a Date Valid From and a Date Valid To - all of this is visible in the NHS app below the QR code.
My entry via Salzburg 2.5 weeks ago took less than 20 seconds - they scanned the "boosted" QR code on a mobile device, it came up green, and they waved me through. At that point, I was 15 days after the positive test, and had a negative PCR result. I could have used the "recovered" code instead, and it would have taken no longer.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@james75,
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That's how I would interpret it too. Has the 14 yr old had covid and recovered? That is my situation (15 yr old) so hoping to avoid the PCR for entry to Austria by having proof of recovery. However, I am waiting for the digital covid pass 12-15 to go live to see if it includes recovered status (hoping somebody on here can confirm - believe it goes online on Feb 3rd in England - not sure about Wales).
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Thanks - no, the 14yo has not had COVID. All I have is the COVID pass letter from the NHS (which is dead easy to scan into the Austrian Green Pass app to help us when we're there) to prove 2 jabs and that's it. I think the answer is I need 1 PCR test for the eldest, and 1 LFT for the youngest (and hoping neither gets COVID at school before testing day!!) 
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| ousekjarr wrote: |
| ratechaser wrote: |
Just out of curiosity... anyone with very recent experience of getting in with 2 doses and recovery without a PCR, using the NHS app? The Austria.info site is still saying that recovery documentation has to have the date of recovery on it, which the NHS QR pass doesn't (only the expiry date of the pass itself which is a month after you obtain it).
Whist I suspect the actual recovery date is encoded into the QR itself, just curious if anyone is getting challenged on when their recovery actually happened because it's not written in plain text?
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The existence of a QR code for recovery shows that you are deemed to have recovered. It does not need a recovery date - it is assumed that you recovered 10 days after a positive test. The date of the positive test is shown, plus a Date Valid From and a Date Valid To - all of this is visible in the NHS app below the QR code.
My entry via Salzburg 2.5 weeks ago took less than 20 seconds - they scanned the "boosted" QR code on a mobile device, it came up green, and they waved me through. At that point, I was 15 days after the positive test, and had a negative PCR result. I could have used the "recovered" code instead, and it would have taken no longer. |
Aha... so you are of course right, if you go into the app, there is that level of detail. Where I was looking however was at the wallet version (blue background) pass, which only shows date of birth and pass expiry date.
Anyway, nice to know I can find it if it's of any interest to anyone at the border!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Green pass app?? Is that something I should be loading now or doing in resort?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| dedders wrote: |
| Green pass app?? Is that something I should be loading now or doing in resort? |
It's the Austrian app. Not needed, but it does no harm to have it. Its easier to open to show than the NHS app. Free on play store.
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| dedders wrote: |
| Green pass app?? Is that something I should be loading now or doing in resort? |
No, don't panic, you don't need it if you have the NHS app already. However, it is apparently faster to access than the NHS app so you might want it for that reason, but equally you can load the QR codes directly into your phone wallet or equivalent. Easier to sort out whichever option you want to use before you travel though.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| dedders wrote: |
| Green pass app?? Is that something I should be loading now or doing in resort? |
You can only get the Austrian Green Pass app on an Austrian phone number. All other "Green Pass Apps" are not the same thing but you don't need it anyway. Just stick to the NHS one.
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Just to help about NHS app. You do NOT need to open it every time. Before you leave UK open the app, then find your covid pass. There is an option to download as a pdf. Do it! Then go to the documents area on your phone and find the pdf. Click it and somewhere you'll find an option to add it to your home screen. Do it! Then every time you open your phone it will be there for you. 1 click and it is open. No need to reopen NHS app, as it is valid for 1 month. No WiFi or roaming access required it is already there on your phone. 
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Daft question, how do you load QR code onto Apple wallet?
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We are landing at Munich then onto Austria, booked through Ski Zoom.They said as we are transiting only, no LFT required for my 9 year old son.
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| Gilly28 wrote: |
| Daft question, how do you load QR code onto Apple wallet? |
The NHS app, perhaps surprisingly, makes it very easy indeed - add to wallet is one of the menu options when you go in to generate your covid travel pass! Just hit the button for each dose/recovery record and each will be added (grouped together) to your wallet...
Now if only this site made it easy to post a screenshot from my phone, I could show you exactly what I mean! Perhaps one of our other members could take a break from their unhealthy obsession with large American rodents and do the honours here... 
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Ah don’t see that option on the NHS Scotland app
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| harvey13 wrote: |
| We are landing at Munich then onto Austria, booked through Ski Zoom.They said as we are transiting only, no LFT required for my 9 year old son. |
Double check this . I could be wrong but I believe that non vaccinated over 6 year olds need an LFT within 48 hours of landing, even if just transitting
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Mandatory testing or proof of immunity from COVID-19
As of 23 December 2021, every person over the age of six is obliged to carry proof of their COVID‑19 status when entering Germany. Persons over the age of six must therefore have a negative test result or proof of recovery or vaccination when entering Germany. As a rule, COVID‑19 test results (antigen or PCR tests) must not be more than 48 hours old at the time of the (planned) entry. However, if entering Germany with a carrier (e.g. an airline), PCR tests may be taken a maximum of 48 hours before the (scheduled) start of the journey (e.g. departure time). But antigen tests must not be taken more than 48 hours before the (scheduled) time of arrival in Germany even if travellers are being transported by a carrier.
Travellers who are only transferring at an airport in Germany are also required to present proof of their COVID‑19 status. This applies both to non-Schengen transit from or to third countries outside the EU and to transit from or to Schengen states.
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@dedders, this has been posted here a few times. There are regulations with regard to transit (the sentence above refers to changing planes not traveling onwards by road) , which have also been posted above, which say that transit is allowed as long as you take the shortest route even if you dont have a test etc. I agree that it makes life easier at check in if you do have a test much the same as the entry form is not necessary but avoids issues with the airlines.
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You know it makes sense.
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I am changing planes and l believe we need to test. We are transferring at an airport ( Frankfurt for Salzburg) I hope I am wrong but the German website and the Lufthansa site seem to say that transit passengers still need an lft if not fully vaccinated. I hope I am wrong but the German gov website seems fairly clear
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I am changing planes and l believe we need to test. We are transferring at an airport ( Frankfurt for Salzburg) I hope I am wrong but the German website and the Lufthansa site seem to say that transit passengers still need an lft if not fully vaccinated. I hope I am wrong but the German gov website seems fairly clear
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@dedders, given that lft tests are pretty easy & cheap and that few individuals are likely to be affected (those between 6 & 16 who are not fully vaccinated or recovered) it seems worth doing whatever the legal niceties.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Thanks, yes going to do that. It's a trip into London but hey ho. The worry is the return as we don't want to get caught isolated. It seems then that people transfering at a terminal need more testing than someone entering Germany to drive on to Austria. I thought harvey13 was changing planes like us, so I believed there was a risk they wouldn't be boarded from the UK.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| RedandWhiteFlachau wrote: |
| dedders wrote: |
| Green pass app?? Is that something I should be loading now or doing in resort? |
You can only get the Austrian Green Pass app on an Austrian phone number. All other "Green Pass Apps" are not the same thing but you don't need it anyway. Just stick to the NHS one. |
The "grüner pass" ? Available from the android play store ? It's the official Austrian one, nothing to do with an Austrian phone number.
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@Roguevfr, yep, I've got it as well as french TAC and UK NHS app
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Grüner Pass used to be locked to a Google account located in Austria, this no longer seems to be the case.
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I have the Grüner Pass, had one dose J&J back in May, so fully vaccinated, got boosted in November but Grüner Pass is only recognising my booster for 6 months, my son who had 2 doses of Pfizer and then a booster is getting 9 months on his Grüner Pass.
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Indeed the Grüner Pass is available on our Austrian phone and UK phone, both currently in the UK.
And to duplicate an earlier comment, the NHS Covid pass is fine as well; just download into your Apple Wallet or do a screenshot as outlined above (a friend on a non-ski flight a couple of weeks ago nearly missed their departure as they wern't able to open the app initially and get a connection)
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Any thoughts on when Austria will lift the current restrictions and go back to some form of normality?
We have SnowBombing booked for April 4th and really can't see it going ahead even though they are still booking acts and taking bookings.
Was a total nightmare getting my money back from Lufthansa so don't really want to book the flights.
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@russ_e, leaving aside the will it/won't it happen question, if you're booking flights separately, then the airline won't care about your wider holiday plans, their job is just to get you there and back. So if Lufty weren't a good bet for refunds last time, you might be better off hedging with someone like BA, where you know that at the very least, you can cancel to get a voucher back, right up to the last minute.
I say that of course without having checked their fares!
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No issues with rearranging Lufthansa flights before Christmas at short notice. Refund at that point would have been of taxes only due to the fare conditions. Fortunately for us, the rearranged flights booked randomly for March were then changed by them to two legs and 3 hours later, which triggered the possibility of a full refund, which we took. 
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