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The all new 11/12 Weather Outlook thread

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jonathancarty, Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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waynos wrote:
Samerberg Sue, You predicted this block beginning of April? Is this a pattern that has happened before, as in a high over the Ukraine in April is still hanging around in November? If this has happened before then when will the high move on?



This is a blame culture we live in and someone must be to blame. Logic would suggest that the weather forecasters giving us all this rubbish information are to blame.

Looks like Samerburg Sue has just put her hand up for the Alp's lack of snow to be her fault completely. Everyone else is just copying her. She should have forecast a nice set of low pressure zones way back then - and we wouldn't be in this mess now.
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http://www.meteoblue.com/en_US/weather/forecast/tab/b/54/chamonix_fr_15181

Mkuch more promising although a week out. Fingers crossed.
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Val Thorens to open on 24th Nov. Looks like they have made enough man made snow to get things started
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It will snow next week.
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emwmarine wrote:
This is a blame culture we live in and someone must be to blame. Logic would suggest that the weather forecasters giving us all this rubbish information are to blame.

I seem to recall a few years ago over in the US there were bad storms that were blamed on El Ninio and a guy called Al Nino kept getting abusive calls blaming him ... I kid you not! Shocked Laughing
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Nadenoodlee,

Care to mention where?!!
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roga,

Well he's not turned up this year yet, what's his number I call the $Astard !!
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We have angered the Snowgods by attempting to usurp their power of creating Snow. The Gods must be appeased. They demand a sacrifice.

I'm sure all right thinking skiers would agree that the proper response is to burn nozawaonsen, in a wicker cage on the learner slope at Hemel Hempstead. It might seem harsh, but if it means there'll be snow in Tignes next week I'll be there with the burning brands.
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emwmarine, That was a bloody auto-correct bloomer from my iPad. I meant at the beginning of October!

I'm not panicking yet as I can more or less pick and choose when I go skiing, unlike some here. I feel sorry for those who end up with no or little snow, but can't people enjoy the holiday anyway? It's got to beat work or grey and miserable UK winters surely?
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For the last day or so the GFS operational and control runs have been at opposite ends of the spectrum. The former mild the latter cold. Obviously one had to buckle. On this evening's 12z it was the operational which has dived down to join the control turning things colder and snowier in the Alps from the start of December. As ever for it to mean anything it needs to continue to be picked up in future runs.
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Spud9,

Well if 12z GFS comes good then it's snow next week , re burning Noza not so sure he influences the weather he just predicts it, well actually he doesn't do that , so let's burn him for not predicting anything!!?? Re noza question please, re the fantasy thread and the day of predicted snowfall what happens if it starts snowing at 4 on the 2nd December but doesn't reach the required minimum height until the 3rd, which day wins?
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Samerberg Sue, perhaps, as long as you didn't Thomas Cook it...
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phillip33, in the event of a dispute of any sort I keep all the prize money.
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nozawaonsen,

Well at least your certain about something!!! Ps I've got the 2nd dec incase you wondered why I've asked wink
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Samerberg Sue wrote:
It's got to beat work or grey and miserable UK winters surely?


The 'grey & miserable' bits of the UK winter are actually what makes it snow here. wink
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Yup, 12z looks a bit more hopeful.

Seriously, I want that praying emoticon.
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I'm keeping my thumbs pressed for snow but if there's no real snow for a while it will be fun comparing the artificial snow offerings of the different resorts. So, which is the most extensive, which the deepest, which the most natural looking and so on.
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pjd, trouble is, there's been so little rain in the last few months that snow-making capacity is in some doubt
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red 27, Yes that's a point. Hope these don't run dry Sad
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I think i've fallen for 12Z GFS. Is she hot as well as clever?
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ECM graphs ( 2nd dec) not quite agreeing with GFS but close, sorry got a iPad and have not worked out yet how to attach !! Perhaps noza can help
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Ps before anyone says. " all the gear no idea" re iPad and many things I've got including my expensive golf clubs Shocked
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what site do you guys use for the different models? i.e. i wanna see the 12Z GFS model, googled it but can't seem to find it any good sites.

Thanks
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I think December is gunna get this season started... Cool
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nollafb,

Page 17 noza give a list of the resorts click on
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Here's a list of ensembles. They'll update at midnight for the 18z. And...

It'll look good.

Cold and snowy across the Alps from 30 November on the operational.

Of course the key is whether this pattern can be sustained through tomorrow...


Les Deux Alpes.

Chamonix.

The Arlberg.

Hintertux.

Sestriere.

Folgaria.

Zermatt.

Cairngorm.

Eastern Pyrenees.
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that's great thanks nozawaonsen. Fingers crossed i've got a new year trip booked but no matter how much I tell myself there's still weeks before I go....... I'm still very nervously watching weather and webcams!!! Madeye-Smiley
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nollafb, you might find my site useful www.ski-finder.co.uk/mapgfs.html
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So next issue... When it snows, with the temperature inversion... does it not mean that the snow will melt relatively quickly on the upper slopes, unless the temperatures after the snowfall remain below freezing?
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Timmaah, unlikely to have a temperature inversion and snowy weather at the same time. An inversion requires calm, stable weather.
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Thick horrible cloud here this morning, the first morning for ages I've not been able to see the sun rise over La Tournette from my bedroom window. Thick frost too.

Somethin's a-brewin'.
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paulio wrote:
Thick horrible cloud here this morning, the first morning for ages I've not been able to see the sun rise over La Tournette from my bedroom window. Thick frost too.

Somethin's a-brewin'.


Fingers X
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Pretty good agreement from both ECM and GFS for the eastern block to be gone by 03 December.

ECM



GFS



Some form of pattern change at the end of November, start of December has been flagging up in a number of runs over the last few days. That said up until now it has always only lasted a few runs before consistency has broken down and it's reverted back to the mild and dry theme. Will be interesting to see if this can generate some momentum today.

Short term however it looks dry and mild for the time of year.
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Spain's Sierra Nevavda is looking good with more snow forecast at the weekend!!!

http://www.sierranevada.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=70&Itemid=568&lang=en
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Over in the Pacific North West...

Whistler has had 72cm of new snow in the last 24 hours.

ENSO remains in a weak La Nina condition at -0.81.
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And looking towards Japan...

This should bring snow to Hokkaido at the end of the week.

With cold temperatures...



Looking colder by the end of the month.
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06z GFS is just finishing. It's operational run was not dissimilar to the 00z, bringing cold and snow into the Alps from 03 December.

Obviously off in the distance so it pays to be cautious. And at this stage building consistency is important in establishing any confidence. That's four out of the last four runs.
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Everytime I think I should log out and do some stuff before going to work, I notice another update from nozawaonsen, that has to be checked Laughing Thank you for your continuing updates, very much appreciated by us all I'm sure.

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nozawaonsen wrote:
... bringing cold and snow into the Alps from 03 December.
Let's hope! Better late than never.
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