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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@robandliza, even with the Apendix H/I form you need a negative PCR test unless you can do 10 days quarantine
“ The obligation to bring a negative result of a molecular test with you or a medical certificate confirming such a test does not apply to persons who have recovered from COVID-19 and can present a medical certificate in accordance with Appendix H or Appendix I. The obligation to self-isolate, however, remains.”
https://www.oesterreich.gv.at/en/themen/coronavirus_in_oesterreich/pre-travel-clearance.html
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@ousekjarr, thanks so much for confirming your reading of the situation - it concurs with mine.
Will we need to fill in the Pre-Travel clearance form for our partially-vaccinated 14 year old - or does the exemption of Ninja-Pass + Negative PCR suffice?
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@FastEddie, good question, and one I don’t have an answer to as yet. Basically, try it and see - it will tell you if you can’t enter, or if registration is not required based on the proofs you have
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I tried it (there's no option to select a child's age before going into the actual form) - and it popped up the form to fill in. I guess I'll fill it in just before finalising my booking to make sure...
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| radar wrote: |
@robandliza, even with the Apendix H/I form you need a negative PCR test unless you can do 10 days quarantine
“ The obligation to bring a negative result of a molecular test with you or a medical certificate confirming such a test does not apply to persons who have recovered from COVID-19 and can present a medical certificate in accordance with Appendix H or Appendix I. The obligation to self-isolate, however, remains.”
https://www.oesterreich.gv.at/en/themen/coronavirus_in_oesterreich/pre-travel-clearance.html |
Thanks @radar but I'm even more confused now. My understanding of entry requirements was
2x jabs
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booster
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negative PCR less than 48 hours before arrival OR evidence of recovery
If that is not the case, what is the point in showing evidence of recovery if you need all the other bits anyway
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We fly into Munich for half term and have friends going in 2 weeks.
I thought that Germany was now open to us which it is if fully vaccinated like we are. Unfortunately that now seems to also include children 6 and above...
We will be transiting to Austria so in theory should be ok but it doesn't seem as straight forward as I first thought.
Does anyone have any experience of traveling through Munich in the last week or so with kids?
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@robandliza, There are quite a few on here that share your frustration, our daughter is in the same position, below is a post from a few pages back from Seabob who had Covid in December.
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| Hi all I have gained entry to Austria and have spent today skiing. I must apologise for not testing the recovery certificate with the Austrian authorities. I got my friendly GP to sign one for me but, after reading about the possible need to quarantine for ten days I bottled it and arranged a PCR test which fortunately was negative. Another couple of days good skiing, and I think all the palaver will have been worth it. |
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@robandliza, that bit of the regulation is not necessarily intended for tourists, there are many reasons why people come to Austria including workers (not relevant for Brits now  ) who will not be allowed in to the country if they don't meet the requirements. In this case they will be allowed entry without a PCR but will have to quarantine.
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Hi All,
Any advice on the timing of taking the PCR please?
If I do the next day ExpressTest at Gatwick around 3pm Thurs (results advertised by 10m Friday) for a flight that's scheduled to land at 11.10am on a Saturday that should meet the 48hr requirement with a few hours wriggle room should there be delays right???
And anyone know what happens in the event of longer delays???
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Ctina wrote: |
Hi All,
Any advice on the timing of taking the PCR please?
If I do the next day ExpressTest at Gatwick around 3pm Thurs (results advertised by 10m Friday) for a flight that's scheduled to land at 11.10am on a Saturday that should meet the 48hr requirement with a few hours wriggle room should there be delays right???
And anyone know what happens in the event of longer delays??? |
Sounds like that would work, I'm probably going to end up doing a 3 hour test the day before my flight, just in case.
As for in case of delays that take you over the limit... I haven't heard good things.
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Anybody know what happened to the 6:40 flight to Salzburg, TOM2610, this morning. Not on the departure list at all. I was on it till last week when I bottled it and moved to March, main reason being the 48 pcr test. There was a Jet2 went about 8:25 and crystal sometimes use them instead of TUI and a TUI flight scheduled for this afternoon. So the either moved to the Jet2 or were bumped on to the afternoon flight. If it was the latter and they only did it last night like they have done in years gone by then many must be out of time on PCR 48 (or 47 hour) if you take the time difference into account. I was going to do a Randox at 3pm Thursday night and put it in a drop box, if I had and they moved the flight after I would have not been able to go.
so nobody on here who was supposed to fly on TOM2610 from Manchester this morning?
Last edited by So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much  on Sat 8-01-22 20:53; edited 1 time in total
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You know it makes sense.
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| radar wrote: |
@robandliza, There are quite a few on here that share your frustration, our daughter is in the same position, below is a post from a few pages back from Seabob who had Covid in December.
| Seahoob wrote: |
| Hi all I have gained entry to Austria and have spent today skiing. I must apologise for not testing the recovery certificate with the Austrian authorities. I got my friendly GP to sign one for me but, after reading about the possible need to quarantine for ten days I bottled it and arranged a PCR test which fortunately was negative. Another couple of days good skiing, and I think all the palaver will have been worth it. |
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Thanks @radar I don't think frustration does it justice!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| Chris_n wrote: |
| @robandliza, that bit of the regulation is not necessarily intended for tourists, there are many reasons why people come to Austria including workers (not relevant for Brits now ) who will not be allowed in to the country if they don't meet the requirements. In this case they will be allowed entry without a PCR but will have to quarantine. |
Thanks @Chris_n PCR s all round then and fingers crossed she's negative. Do you think a stamped form proving recovery would help if she tests positive? My wife works in the NHS and did a PCR for work on 29th Dec and got the positive result on 31st but has been negative LFT since 1st Jan
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@robandliza, positive PCR with the form = 10 days quarantine
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| robandliza wrote: |
| Do you think a stamped form proving recovery would help if she tests positive? My wife works in the NHS and did a PCR for work on 29th Dec and got the positive result on 31st but has been negative LFT since 1st Jan |
I don't think that will help at all, the regulation requires a negative PCR. The mention of the recovery form is more to do with vaccination status i.e. recovery plus 1 jab = fully vaccinated this plus booster is ok, 2 jabs plus recovery = fully vaccinated and boosted. Either of these plus PCR is good for entry.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@mattiwilkin, yes Germany insists on fully vaccinated from any high risk country (basically everywhere at the moment) from 6 years up or quarantine (messing up holidays for many German families). As ever the regulations for transit are as clear as mud. If you want certainty then email either the German Embassy in London or (probably better) the German Border Police at Munich airport (the email address is posted somewhere above or in the Germany thread as someone emailed them a few weeks back to get confirmation that transit was banned at the time) to get confirmation. I suspect they would let you through once you get there it is getting on the plane in the first place that might be more grief.
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@radar, @Chris_n, thank you
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@radar, @Chris_n, thank you
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We arrived in Austria last night after driving across from Holland. Normally we would use the tunnel bit our only option was to do the Harwich crossing. To make the 48hr requirement we had to use the randox 1 to 3 hr pcr test at stansted airport on Thursday afternoon and then went to catch the 11pm ferry. No one has checked our pcr at all!!!! I'm abit miffed but at least we know we are clear and have done everything right. Our vaccine status has been checked and everyone is/ should be wearing ffp2 masks. I actually feel safer here than in the UK 
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| munich_irish wrote: |
| @mattiwilkin, yes Germany insists on fully vaccinated from any high risk country (basically everywhere at the moment) from 6 years up or quarantine (messing up holidays for many German families). As ever the regulations for transit are as clear as mud. If you want certainty then email either the German Embassy in London or (probably better) the German Border Police at Munich airport (the email address is posted somewhere above or in the Germany thread as someone emailed them a few weeks back to get confirmation that transit was banned at the time) to get confirmation. I suspect they would let you through once you get there it is getting on the plane in the first place that might be more grief. |
Thanks what a pain.
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thanks to all for the very useful information in this thread.
After wondering whether I would pass a PCR having had covid recently, the final nail in the coffin for us trying to get to Austria is the requirement to have at least 120 days between jab 2 and jab 3/booster (Austrian embassy page). Given the push in the UK to 'get boosted' this has ruled out some of our party who have gaps around 100 days.
I appreciate that this has been mentioned before a few pages back but just FYI for those new to the conversation.
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@Blighty1066, If you came through Holland stay clear of us. It was the Dutch who bought Omicron to Flachau!
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@ThreeBlades, I've seen people post on here saying that time between jabs isn't checked anywhere
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| RedandWhiteFlachau wrote: |
| @Blighty1066, If you came through Holland stay clear of us. It was the Dutch who bought Omicron to Flachau! |
Those will be the ones who ignored the regs and didn't bother with a. PCR test?
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@Blighty1066, good idea to go via Hook of Holland. Have booked both tunnel and ferry for trip to Lech at end of Jan. Both refundable so hedging to see if French let us in.....
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@Blighty1066 well done! Good work and thanks for sharing your experiences as I hadn’t even thought of the Holland ferry. Enjoy the skiing!
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You know it makes sense.
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| Scamper wrote: |
| RedandWhiteFlachau wrote: |
| @Blighty1066, If you came through Holland stay clear of us. It was the Dutch who bought Omicron to Flachau! |
Those will be the ones who ignored the regs and didn't bother with a. PCR test? |
You're probably right. The PCR is for "entry to Austria" where as establishments in Austria are only required to check vaccination status. As a result (and confirmed by my Dutch, Danish and Belgian Clients) there were no checks for those travelling by road and no requirements for them to test their (unvaccinated) Children while they were here.
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It seems a bit silly to require triple vacc'ed visitors to also do a PCR test if you aren't requiring the same from Austrian residents moving between different parts of the country.
C'est la Vie, I guess...
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| Scamper wrote: |
It seems a bit silly to require triple vacc'ed visitors to also do a PCR test if you aren't requiring the same from Austrian residents moving between different parts of the country.
C'est la Vie, I guess... |
We had exit checks at some state borders last year. They don’t work because the population doesn’t move around that much. They worked better at village level, but the resources required were unsustainable.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| ThreeBlades wrote: |
thanks to all for the very useful information in this thread.
After wondering whether I would pass a PCR having had covid recently, the final nail in the coffin for us trying to get to Austria is the requirement to have at least 120 days between jab 2 and jab 3/booster (Austrian embassy page). Given the push in the UK to 'get boosted' this has ruled out some of our party who have gaps around 100 days.
I appreciate that this has been mentioned before a few pages back but just FYI for those new to the conversation. |
I have scanned a few of these and Covidshield (Indian and not supposed to be allowed) for people and they show as good to go. You only need to show proof of your booster which doesn't contain any of the information from previous injections.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@ThreeBlades, This has been mentioned a number of times, all that is being checked is whether you have had 3 shots & have a valid PCR.
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The Corona Warn app (you can turn the contact Bluetooth off) gives you an option to check validity for the country you wish to visit. Might be worth trying it out to see how it handles the 100 days booster problem.
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| munich_irish wrote: |
| @mattiwilkin, yes Germany insists on fully vaccinated from any high risk country (basically everywhere at the moment) from 6 years up or quarantine (messing up holidays for many German families). As ever the regulations for transit are as clear as mud. If you want certainty then email either the German Embassy in London or (probably better) the German Border Police at Munich airport (the email address is posted somewhere above or in the Germany thread as someone emailed them a few weeks back to get confirmation that transit was banned at the time) to get confirmation. I suspect they would let you through once you get there it is getting on the plane in the first place that might be more grief. |
Under quarantine regulation here: https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/en/coronavirus/2317268
it does mention that exemption apply to those
"are only passing through Germany and leaving the country via the fastest route available, or"
For those transiting you are also exempt from filing in the digital entry registration, though I gather many airlines insist upon it, so you can fill it in using the airports address as your destination location.
The digital entry registration does not list transit as one of the reasons to be exempt from quarantine, as you are technically exempt from filling in a digital entry registration form if only transiting.
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A few data points: my son had a positive PCR on 16 Dec, and a negative one on 1 Jan, enabling our trip to Austria.
He is 13, and entered Austria using the PCR as his first “stamp” on the printed Ninja Pass.
We did not need to do a pre travel form (no one asked for this at all).
Once in resort (StAnton/Lech), we used the covid recovery certificate from the Austrian regs (signed by a private GP at great expense…). All restaurants asked to see it, some wanted to see photo ID as well. All scanned the NHS Covid app code for the triple vax adults.
Had an amazing trip and well worth the effort (and stress) to get there.
Usual after ski spots were open for drinks (we did not need to order food), but places were more limited so sometimes you needed to wait for a table.
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| Swen wrote: |
| Anybody know what happened to the 6:40 flight to Salzburg, TOM2610, this morning. Not on the departure list at all. I was on it till last week when I bottled it and moved to March, main reason being the 48 pcr test. There was a Jet2 went about 8:25 and crystal sometimes use them instead of TUI and a TUI flight scheduled for this afternoon. So the either moved to the Jet2 or were bumped on to the afternoon flight. If it was the latter and they only did it last night like they have done in years gone by then many must be out of time on PCR 48 (or 47 hour) if you take the time difference into account. I was going to do a Randox at 3pm Thursday night and put it in a drop box, if I had and they moved the flight after I would have not been able to go. |
so nobody on here who was supposed to fly on TOM2610 from Manchester this morning?
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Has any one managed to get a GP to sign a proof of recovery certificate for entry to Austria for a teen? If so, how much did they charge, and how does this translate in to 2g status?
Thanks
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