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| albob wrote: |
| @Jefferson Darcy, My NHS covid app updated within two days, so yours should have by now ?? : I believe you can request a paper copy, but no idea how to.. |
Thanks for this but there doesn't appear to be a place to mark date of the booster jab, is that right?
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| Jefferson Darcy wrote: |
@buchanan101 I was indeed vaccinated in ROI
@peter2512 Thanks for that. The form only shows space for the dates of my first and second vaccines. I have these on my covid cert. It's proof of my third (booster) vaccine that I'm worried about. Is there an updated form where a date for a third jab can be entered?
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Sorry ignore post above
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| robandliza wrote: |
| albob wrote: |
| @Jefferson Darcy, My NHS covid app updated within two days, so yours should have by now ?? : I believe you can request a paper copy, but no idea how to.. |
Thanks for this but there doesn't appear to be a place to mark date of the booster jab, is that right? |
Hmm - not sure what you mean
I open the NHS app (not the covid one!) ; under Popular services is 'NHS covid pass' - click on that, then 'continue' ; the next page is headed 'get your NHS covid pass' and you can select either 'domestic' of 'travel' ; I click on 'travel' and am presented with a page with a green box indicating 'covid records found, show details' - details reveal the number of doses/date/type etc
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Jefferson Darcy, currently all that is required for entry into Germany is two jabs, no tests. Very unlikely to be checks going into Austria, but cant keep up with what you need to scan to get your ski pass.
@buchanan101, no issue with, the Republic, ROI, Eire, the South etc. Should be far less sensitivity these days about all this.
Back to skiing.......
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| facedown wrote: |
| @sparklingspringwater, Sorry I politely disagree. Nunex has the right to assess his/her own risk. A one size fits all approach has clearly failed and alternatives have continually been shouted down. If the innoculations did what we were led to believe they did, then you'd be protecting yourself but at no risk from anyone who chose not to get the jab. |
No vaccine offers 100% protection. None ever has, nor was it promised (there were always efficacy values quoted). It's always been said that vaccines are for community as well as personal protection. Hardly blame the vaccines for reduced efficacy against new strains
"one size fits all" - really haven't a clue what you mean by this; I do hope you aren't going to mention deworming tablets - prevention is always better than cure, especially unproven ones. (We have more and more genuine additional treatments in a number of antivirals, steroids etc, but these are always complimentary to the baseline of vaccines) |
One size fits all as opposed to vaccinating and shielding the vulnerable. Focused protection and allowing a natural immunity to develop in our Youth with particular emphasis on not vaccinating Children.
As for vaccine efficacy, I'm fully aware of limitations but could you shed any light on the need for the definition of a vaccination to be Changed and why are they all still on emergency usage 
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Urgent request as cant find the information and just about to book!!
Can anyone confirm 100% that if transiting Austria only - so flying into Innsbruck - then straight onto Crystal Coach to drive to dolomites - that we ONLY need meet the Italy requirements NOT Austria. (Austria currently require booster for 16 year old who cant get boosted before we travel on 15th, BUT Italy do not require booster)
Sorry for the urgency but been scanning holidays for most of the week and just found one to Dolomites BUT flight is into Innsbruck.
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@Jefferson Darcy, Was talking to the nice ladys at Top-flight yesterday and they assured me that the vaccination cards are acceptable in Austria and did not cause any problems for there customers who flew out the 2 weeks previous.
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Not aimed directly at anyone but it's probably best to keep this thread to Austria related stuff instead of turning it into another anti-vax battleground?
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| facedown wrote: |
| buchanan101 wrote: |
| facedown wrote: |
| @sparklingspringwater, Sorry I politely disagree. Nunex has the right to assess his/her own risk. A one size fits all approach has clearly failed and alternatives have continually been shouted down. If the innoculations did what we were led to believe they did, then you'd be protecting yourself but at no risk from anyone who chose not to get the jab. |
No vaccine offers 100% protection. None ever has, nor was it promised (there were always efficacy values quoted). It's always been said that vaccines are for community as well as personal protection. Hardly blame the vaccines for reduced efficacy against new strains
"one size fits all" - really haven't a clue what you mean by this; I do hope you aren't going to mention deworming tablets - prevention is always better than cure, especially unproven ones. (We have more and more genuine additional treatments in a number of antivirals, steroids etc, but these are always complimentary to the baseline of vaccines) |
One size fits all as opposed to vaccinating and shielding the vulnerable. Focused protection and allowing a natural immunity to develop in our Youth with particular emphasis on not vaccinating Children.
As for vaccine efficacy, I'm fully aware of limitations but could you shed any light on the need for the definition of a vaccination to be Changed and why are they all still on emergency usage |
Right - let's shield the vulnerable for 2 years and counting. You obviously aren't one of them. Allowing natural immunity to develop - first off, doesn't - it can be caught multiple times, and many young people get seriously ill and die.
As for "emergency use", perhaps don't research on Facebook and look up what it means - see link below. They still all fully completed stage 3 trials. But you'd rather we wait for a few years before using them
https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/emergency-use-authorization-vaccines-explained
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@Jefferson Darcy, Looks like the Irish government are about to scrap the need for PCR/ Antigen tests for vaccinated people to enter which will be a big relief for all travellers.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I think this thread is derailing fast - this is meant to be for wildly speculating whether we can get into Austria based on very little information, not debating the merits of vaccination
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@neilkav,
as far as I can see it is ok, but you really need to get Crystal to advise
Entry without restriction is permitted for:
people who enter Austria to maintain the movement of goods and people; if the destination country is not Austria, departure must be ensured,
people who enter exclusively for compelling reasons of animal care or for agricultural and forestry measures in individual cases,
people who enter in the context of the implementation of a professional transfer trip / a professional transfer flight,
people who enter in the imperative interest of the Republic of Austria,
transit passengers or people who cross Austria without a stopover (except essential interruptions, provided that departure is ensured,
the crew of a repatriation trip / a repatriation flight including the accompanying organs of the public security service,
occupants of emergency vehicles according to § 26 of the Road Traffic Act 1960 (StVO 1960), Federal Law Gazette I No. 159/1960, and vehicles in the public service according to § 26a StVO 1960,
people coming from Austria who cross foreign territory without stopping to reach their destination in Austria (eg. "Deutsches Eck"),
people who enter Mittelberg and Jungholz and the Riss valley in the municipality of Vomp and Eben am Achensee.
https://www.bmeia.gv.at/en/austrian-embassy-london/travelling-to-austria/coronavirus-covid-19-and-travel-abroad/
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You know it makes sense.
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Numbers up today folks 10k+. But, i'm going to be optomistic based on what I've seen around here. Today's numbers are those folks who took a test on 3 Jan and got results yesterday. I'm pretty convinced that folks were getting ill from 24 Dec onwards when the North Europeans descended on mass but put off testing (despite symptoms) to complete the holiday weeks. I'd also put money on the Omikron varient being around 80% of cases, so mostly mild. It is also not possible to identify how many of those positive tests are tourists, but probably a good percentage judging by the traffic at the Drive-in Test centres. Fingers crossed the Government rides this wave out. St Johann im Pongau and Kitzbuhel top of the IR table. Not hard to see why.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@buchanan101, This really is my last one on this and apologies to all for the off topic nature. But in all walks of life I really do get fed up with the holier than thou type of attitude and the condescending assumptions when anybody challenges the narrative.
Dr Jessica Rose, an immunologist and molecular biologist "adverse event reports for Covid-associated products alone were already more than 1,000 per cent higher in 2021 than total annual reports for all other vaccines given over the past ten years. A comparative analysis of flu data showed the increase was real, and a clear signal of ‘huge risks that, in my opinion, outweigh any potential benefits associated with these products, especially for children’.
We can all find what we want when we need to 
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Chick wrote: |
| @Jefferson Darcy, Was talking to the nice ladys at Top-flight yesterday and they assured me that the vaccination cards are acceptable in Austria and did not cause any problems for there customers who flew out the 2 weeks previous. |
Thank you
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| neilkav wrote: |
Urgent request as cant find the information and just about to book!!
Can anyone confirm 100% that if transiting Austria only - so flying into Innsbruck - then straight onto Crystal Coach to drive to dolomites - that we ONLY need meet the Italy requirements NOT Austria. (Austria currently require booster for 16 year old who cant get boosted before we travel on 15th, BUT Italy do not require booster)
Sorry for the urgency but been scanning holidays for most of the week and just found one to Dolomites BUT flight is into Innsbruck. |
This has been discussed a few posts up on last page I believe with a resolution and confirmation from Crystal. In short you dont need to meet Austrian rules if just passing though.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Swen wrote: |
| neilkav wrote: |
Urgent request as cant find the information and just about to book!!
Can anyone confirm 100% that if transiting Austria only - so flying into Innsbruck - then straight onto Crystal Coach to drive to dolomites - that we ONLY need meet the Italy requirements NOT Austria. (Austria currently require booster for 16 year old who cant get boosted before we travel on 15th, BUT Italy do not require booster)
Sorry for the urgency but been scanning holidays for most of the week and just found one to Dolomites BUT flight is into Innsbruck. |
This has been discussed a few posts up on last page I believe with a resolution and confirmation from Crystal. In short you dont need to meet Austrian rules if just passing though. |
Thank you so much, just couldn't find it! Panic over thanks again.
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@Pastorius, well said.
Still, I guess after 165 or so pages there were always going to be some people who can’t help themselves 
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@facedown, [/quote] Dr Jessica Rose, an immunologist and molecular biologist "adverse event reports for Covid-associated products alone were already more than 1,000 per cent higher in 2021 than total annual reports for all other vaccines given over the past ten years
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Apparently a dubious, or at least controversial, source:
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-usa-idUSL1N2R00KP
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Classic anti-vaxxer flawed logic: dispute the overwhelming scientific consensus, the result of billions invested in scientific research and the superhuman efforts of scientists, medical staff, and pharmaceutical workers the world over, as a mere "narrative". Then proceed to quote one crank nurse or doctor's opinion as authoritative, solely premised upon their medical qualifications.
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@sparklingspringwater, +1
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Right, let's get this back on track - I've heard that you'll be allowed in to Austria as long as you pledge to spend £500 on beer and change your underwear once a day minimum
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It's in the regulations - "people who enter in the imperative interest of the Republic of Austria". I think spending that and skiing qualifies. No need for testing, then.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| Pastorius wrote: |
| Right, let's get this back on track - I've heard that you'll be allowed in to Austria as long as you pledge to spend £500 on beer and change your underwear once a day minimum |
The £500 a day on beer I can do, but the underwear requirement is just too much!!!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Just on the cancelled easyJet flights, mine were cancelled from the 18/1 and brought forward to the 17/1 (rescheduled) LGW to Innsbruck. I’m due to return on the 28/1 and as it stands these flights still seem to be unchanged?
It seems to me easyJet are reducing the number of flights due to reduced demand rather than cancelling them altogether
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This might be of interest:
https://www.thelocal.at/20220105/today-in-austria-a-roundup-of-the-latest-news-on-wednesday-january-5/
Might have to reload a few times to read
Highlights:
ICU stats around vaccinated/unvaccinated - possibly not hugely relevant for this thread
Gecko met yesterday apparently, and are meeting regional/local gov today - no update from yesterday's talks yet
One possibility is to reduce quarantine time to help business/healthcare deal with staff absence/sickness, but restrictions could be increased
Salzburg planning more quarantine accom for tourists (Tyrol and Salzburg have highest incidence rates: 1%)
And Thursday 6 January is a public holiday in Austria...
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You know it makes sense.
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| sparklingspringwater wrote: |
| Classic anti-vaxxer flawed logic: dispute the overwhelming scientific consensus, the result of billions invested in scientific research and the superhuman efforts of scientists, medical staff, and pharmaceutical workers the world over, as a mere "narrative". Then proceed to quote one crank nurse or doctor's opinion as authoritative, solely premised upon their medical qualifications. |
And... it's about challenging the "narrative"... let's find a crank "expert" who likes the notoriety he or she gets from "challenging the narrative" (often they are on a grift).
I will believe 99.9% of experts thank you...
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Anyone got any predictions when the current regulations on 'apres ski' are likely to be relaxed in Austria, ie. when bars can have live bands again ?
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| Pastorius wrote: |
| Right, let's get this back on track - I've heard that you'll be allowed in to Austria as long as you pledge to spend £500 on beer and change your underwear once a day minimum |
Not sure I understand the underwear requirement.
As long as they don't ask you to swear you like the awful ski-resort music
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| JohnS4 wrote: |
| Anyone got any predictions when the current regulations on 'apres ski' are likely to be relaxed in Austria, ie. when bars can have live bands again ? |
My guess - may not happen this season. Austria has up to two months to get through an Omicron spike only just starting now.
I just want to be able to ski...don't really care about the apres this year!
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| JohnS4 wrote: |
| Anyone got any predictions when the current regulations on 'apres ski' are likely to be relaxed in Austria, ie. when bars can have live bands again ? |
June, maybe
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The virus gets more infectious if it is in a good mood, hence the live bands prohibition.
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From 04:00 on Friday travellers into England will not need pre-departure Covid test and will only need a lateral flow test within two days of arriving, PM Boris Johnson says.
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| aplaceinthesun wrote: |
This might be of interest:
Salzburg planning more quarantine accom for tourists (Tyrol and Salzburg have highest incidence rates: 1%)
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The choice seems to be stay in the same hotel (paid by the individual), go to the 76 bed red cross quaratine hostel, currently having 16 people in it (free) or (hadn't realised this one) drive home provided it is in your own car.
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Quarantäne-Regeln bei Gecko-Sitzung im Fokus
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Am morgigen Feiertag um 11 Uhr berät die Bundesregierung mit den Ländern und Experten zur aktuellen Corona-Situation. Die "gesamtstaatliche Covid-Krisenkoordination" (Gecko) hat laut Informationen der Austria Presse-Agentur in ihrer Sitzung am Dienstagnachmittag keine speziellen Empfehlungen für konkrete Maßnahmen abgegeben. Es wurden von dem Expertengremium demnach Zahlen, Daten und Fakten aufbereitet und Einschätzungen als inhaltliche Grundlage für Entscheidungen der Politik vorgenommen.
Die Bundesregierung will am Donnerstag ab 11 Uhr mit den Landeshauptleuten und der Gecko-Spitze - der Generaldirektorin für öffentliche Gesundheit, Katharina Reich und Generalmajor Rudolf Striedinger - angesichts der rasant wachsenden Omikron-Welle über weitere Maßnahmen entscheiden. Die Regierungsspitze, Reich und Striedinger werden im Kanzleramt vor Ort sein, die Landeshauptleute und weitere Experten per Video zugeschaltet. Die Sitzung ist bis 13 Uhr geplant, danach wird es eine Pressekonferenz geben.
Bei der Gecko-Sitzung am Vortag wurden die von der Bundesregierung gestellten Fragen und die Inhalte der Themengruppen abgearbeitet. Berichte gab es etwa zur Omikron-Variante, zu den Testungen oder zu den Quarantäneregeln im Zusammenhang mit der kritischen Infrastruktur. |
Seems that we can expect a press conference tomorrow after 1300 Austrian time/1200 UK time. As far as I understand it the focus seems to be on cutting the self-isolation period. I cannot see any discussion of the regulations changing for tourists.
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Thanks for that Boris after I cancelled 8th Jan trip to bang around in the slush in march for the fear of not being able to get home, absolute farce. Livid
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| @radarThat's why I have 2 Randox fit to fly PCR tests sat on a shelf now - one for a sanity check on the 11th, and one for the preflight check on the 13th. |
How does that work for "on the shelf" for the preflight test? Surely you have to have the test supervised so it's date stamped (for the 48 hr clock) - can't see how you can do it when you want before you go as it's 48 hours from test time, not from result.
(Maybe you mean "on the shelf " as booked, so apologies if so!) |
Sorry, been busy today so this is answered only after the clownfest above has hopefully wilted and died.
The Randox PCR tests (like most PCR tests) are self-sampled, and then sent to a lab. To get a certificate that you are fit to fly, you need to register the kit on their app, then take the sample, then deliver the sample to their lab within 24 hours, preferably via their dropbox scheme.
The only reason to have 2 is as an attempt to stop me worrying right up to the last minute about whether I can test negative or not. If I test 3-4 days early and it is negative, I'm then 99.9% certain to test negative on the "real" test which will be 36 hours before our flight. It also gives me a dry run of the process and their turnaround time. I can afford the £40 that extra test is costing me, and it is worth it to potentially avoid two days of additional stress. The first test certificate will never be used.
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No realistic replacement for our January Innsbruck cancelled EasyJet flights, so it's BA Zurch then train or hire car to Austria, BA Munich then train or hire car or Austrian via Vienna. I've done the Zurich route via car and train a number of times, Munich and car a number of times but does anyone here have a very recent experience of any of these routes under the current circumstances?
Marginally edging towards Munich or Zurich as the Vienna connections are really tight.
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