 Poster: A snowHead
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| Swen wrote: |
| So if its to be believed that you can be recovered and still fail PCR tests for weeks then it does not look good |
It’s a tough one. If negative on lfts then would you be negative on pcr?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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apparently its not a given
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Text from Austrian Embassy website, I presume it is current as they have had their asses kicked after the fiasco at the weekend but might be worth an email / call.
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A) The entry ban and the obligation to self-isolate do not apply if both of the following are provided:
proof of a “booster vaccination” (third vaccination or second vaccination in case you have been jabbed with Johnson & Johnson or have recovered and were vaccinated) AND
a PCR test not older than 48 h at the time of entry to Austria. |
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Yep thats the issue if you have had it recently you may still spend £50 or more on a pcr test the day before you go and fail even though you are symptom free. Proably better to have one of Borris's free ones the day before to see if its worth spending on a qualifying PCR test. Also the timing is a pain unless you have somewhere you can go the day before and pay trough the nose for one, if you are posting you are in danger of not getting a result in time or it running out of time before you land.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I guess those of us with 16yr olds are out of luck for Feb half term then given then are not eligible for boosters until March?
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@RiffC, Could all change by the end of January... (for the better or worse!)
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| Swen wrote: |
| So if its to be believed that you can be recovered and still fail PCR tests for weeks then it does not look good |
This is why you need to get the certificate of recovery as an alternative to passing a PCR test.
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| Seahoob wrote: |
| @1gunsalute, I have completed an appendix H/I form and my GP has signed it, having assesed my infection which was positive on 23 Dec. I travel on 2 Jan and will post here if I am allowed in to Innsbruck. |
Going again so soon?!
I'm in the same boat, although I've an extra week before I go. I'm hoping things will be clearer by then. Are you going to do a PCR anyway? On the chance it'll be negative?
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| 1gunsalute wrote: |
| Swen wrote: |
| So if its to be believed that you can be recovered and still fail PCR tests for weeks then it does not look good |
This is why you need to get the certificate of recovery as an alternative to passing a PCR test. |
Dont think they accept that
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always need a PCR now
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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From the Austrian ambassy website https://www.bmeia.gv.at/en/austrian-embassy-london/travelling-to-austria/coronavirus-covid-19-and-travel-abroad/
The obligation to present a negative test result or a medical certificate of a negative test result for people does not apply, if a medical certificate according to appendix H or Appendix I can be presented, that meets the following requirements:
- proof of an infection with SARS-CoV-2 that occurred within the last 90 days and ended at the time the certificate was issued;
- the certificate was issued not earlier than 14 days after the initial detection or the onset of symptoms,
- you have not had any symptoms at least 48 hours before the certificate was issued and have a
- confirmation that, despite the presence of a positive test result for SARS-CoV-2, based on the medical laboratory findings, it can be assumed that there is no longer any risk of infection.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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may be ok then but they could not have made all this less clear
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What have people done with regards to the 48h PCR requirement so far? I've posted in the general pre-departure PCR thread about this (https://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=157563&start=40) but I suppose this is an Austria-specific question given the strict 48h requirement.
Our Gatwick flight is due into Innsbruck at 5pm on Saturday 8 January. This makes a home PCR test quite difficult, I would assume, as at all the Randox sites within a 1 hour drive the latest collection time is 4pm or maybe 4:30pm (although most are earlier). As a Friday test is not guaranteed to be back by 4pm here/5pm Austrian time on Saturday, and a Thursday test collected at 4:30pm at the latest will not be valid as it falls outside the 48h window, it seems as though in-person is the best, or only viable, option.
The Express Test Fit to Fly is £59 at Gatwick and guarantees a next-day result. So while a bit of a pain I guess I'll have to travel to Gatwick on Thursday evening and get the test done. Has anyone else done this? Was the test back by 10pm next day as promised? Or is there a better or easier option that I am not seeing? On-the-day tests at Gatwick seem prohibitively expensive at £180 each.
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You know it makes sense.
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Even the best plans can come unstuck with a flight delay and these seem to be happening due to staff shortages, for me this is the biggest threat to going over time
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@sparklingspringwater,
Randox PCR 1-3 hours express are £80 - no site at Gatwick tho' (and are dearer depending on time/location)
https://covid.randox.com/clinic-locator/ :: @sparklingspringwater,
Last edited by Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name: on Wed 29-12-21 10:55; edited 1 time in total
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Poster: A snowHead
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God knows why 72 hours was not good enough, is for everybody else and was for them pre 25th
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@albob thanks, good to know as an emergency backup if the others let me down. I wonder why the Gatwick express tests are so expensive 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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No competition?
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@sparklingspringwater,
I haven't gone through the actual booking process - could be when you go to select an actual appointment it turns out more expensive?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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--possible nonsense, deleted.
This problem somewhat stems from a lack of imagination – as it is now possible (since about a month ago) to get a 24hr turnaround PCR anywhere in Austria (unless you were in Salzburg over Christmas), it is incomprehensible that you wouldn’t be able to do that in every country in the world 
Last edited by Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do. on Wed 29-12-21 9:00; edited 1 time in total
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Sorry for the confusion .I'm travelling from Ireland and 3 jabs don't need a Pcr . I'm hoping my 2 jabs and a recovery cert will nullify the need for the Pcr test also . If not I will just have to try and source a booster so soon after covid or hope the Pcr test prove negative. A friends father was given a booster by his doctor 1 week after covid but I think I'd rather not if possible.
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@Chick
According to :: https://www.dfa.ie/travel/travel-advice/a-z-list-of-countries/austria/ you need a PCR regardless (my reading..)
".In case not triple-vaccinated (i.e. once or double-vaccinated persons) will need to provide a negative PCR-test no more than 72 hours prior to entry, in addition to presenting the vaccination certificate.
Proof of recovery from Covid-19 in the past 6 months (180 days), consistent with the requirements/definitions set out below, and additional negative PCR-test no more than 72 hours prior to entry..."
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Maybe there's an obvious answer but my PCR will expire at 1400 UK time on the day of arrival. As Austria is an hour ahead does that mean it will actually expire at 1500 local?
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@Chick, see the link from @1gunsalute above for info on avoiding the PCR with a recovery certificate.
@esaw1, it’s 48hr so yes, that’s correct. You may find yourself having to assist with the maths though 
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Thank you @Scarlet, Hopefully my assistance won't be needed as I'll have a five hour window.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Can I just add that please, anyone who doesn’t agree with the interpretations presented here, speak up and quote your sources. The information is confusing at best, can be contradictory and is easy to misinterpret. None of us here are the oracle on anything, we’re just trying to figure it out like everyone else, and will sometimes be wrong. We don’t want to ruin anyone’s trip, so if you know something we don’t, post it as assistance rather than start arguments in the background.
@1gunsalute, @Chick, there may be an issue with the recovery cert re. quarantine, but it’s late and I’m done. More research required on that I think.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@Chick, the following is from the Austrian Health ministry https://www.sozialministerium.at/Informationen-zum-Coronavirus/Coronavirus---Aktuelle-Ma%C3%9Fnahmen.html
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The following still applies to entries from all other countries :
2-G + (vaccinated or recovered and PCR-tested) for entry from all countries
Booster vaccination frees you from the PCR test |
ie either 3 jabs or 2 jabs + PCR
Have the Irish health people sorted putting the 3rd jab onto the vaccine certificate yet?
Note this is for people travelling from NON virus variant countries
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@sparklingspringwater, we did the ExpressTest PCR at Gatwick at 2.30 on 9th December, got the result through about 9 pm on the 10th and we were on the ET at 11.30 am on the 11th. In the event I don’t think we needed to have had PCR to travel to France then (could have been LFT) but it was a bit belt and braces as things kept changing. Very efficient when we arrived and testing etc.
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You know it makes sense.
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@munich_irish, No they just give you a card with the booster information on it. In Ireland the recovery cert is considered equal to the booster along with 2 jabs which I think is the case in most countries but I might be wrong on that.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| sparklingspringwater wrote: |
What have people done with regards to the 48h PCR requirement so far? I've posted in the general pre-departure PCR thread about this (https://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=157563&start=40) but I suppose this is an Austria-specific question given the strict 48h requirement.
Our Gatwick flight is due into Innsbruck at 5pm on Saturday 8 January. This makes a home PCR test quite difficult, I would assume, as at all the Randox sites within a 1 hour drive the latest collection time is 4pm or maybe 4:30pm (although most are earlier). As a Friday test is not guaranteed to be back by 4pm here/5pm Austrian time on Saturday, and a Thursday test collected at 4:30pm at the latest will not be valid as it falls outside the 48h window, it seems as though in-person is the best, or only viable, option.
The Express Test Fit to Fly is £59 at Gatwick and guarantees a next-day result. So while a bit of a pain I guess I'll have to travel to Gatwick on Thursday evening and get the test done. Has anyone else done this? Was the test back by 10pm next day as promised? Or is there a better or easier option that I am not seeing? On-the-day tests at Gatwick seem prohibitively expensive at £180 each. |
I agree with your concerns about the test at home timeline, especially as the 48hrs appears to be from the time of sampling to the time of arrival in Austria (if Google translate is to be believed)
Also, just be careful that the Express Test Fit to Fly is the right type of test. As far as I know, Randox offer both in this service but only PCR is acceptable for entry to Austria.
Good luck, it’s a minefield! I look forward to hearing of your experiences as I prepare for a 22/1 departure.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@Chick, my understanding is that you need the booster and the appendix H/I form
Assuming you are a UK resident
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@Chick, the Austrian regulations are particularly Byzantine, you need a degree in being a bureaucrat to really understand them. Maybe I am wrong and there is an exception but I think it is either a PCR or a 3rd jab, recovery certificates dont replace a 3rd jab.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| radar wrote: |
@Chick, my understanding is that you need the booster and the appendix H/I form
Assuming you are a UK resident |
yes the appendix H/I form seems to substitute for the PCR test has it is not possible to pass one if you have recently had covid.
How you prove that to your doctor if they have not treated you for it and get them to sign your certificate is another question, assuming that you can even get appointment to see a doctor.
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I am going out there on the 8th as it stands and have booked all the tests but a possible delay could turn me straight back round at Salzberg and coupled with the 10 days solitary in Colditz if I fail the lateral flow to fly back means I am going to be on the phone to Crystal (for hours) to move the booking again. I have had 6 hour delays for no reason going to Salzburg before and that would get me sent home.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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omg, farce
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| the Austrian regulations are particularly Byzantine, you need a degree in being a bureaucrat to really understand them. |
I think you could say that about any Austrian regulations! The fun really starts when you meet them with a pile of documents to fulfil a list of requirements, and then they invent something else on the spot that isn't on the list. Arguing that it's not on the list of requirements is pointless, the list is wrong and you're SOOL. I can guarantee this happens to me every time 
There is no guarantee this won't happen at the border either.
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Has anyone been able to establish if the 48hrs is from the time of test or from getting the results, everything I’ve read from the Austrian sites just says 48, if you have please share the link.
We are planning to test late Friday night for flight on Sunday lunchtime, should give us a few hours leeway.
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@radar, It's always sampling. https://www.oesterreich.gv.at/en/themen/coronavirus_in_oesterreich/pre-travel-clearance.html section 2, first bullet
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| The registration can be done at the earliest 72 hours before entry. In case of an official inspection the registration must be presented in digital form or printed out. The authenticity of the document can be verified via the QR code. Persons who have received a further vaccination ("booster") and can provide a negative molecular biological test (e.g. PCR test) whose sampling must not be longer than 48 hours ago, are exempt from the registration obligation. |
Last edited by Ski the Net with snowHeads  on Wed 29-12-21 10:01; edited 1 time in total
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