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The Arlberg snow report 2011/12

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sah wrote:
Did that make up for the lack of skiing earlier in the week? Happy


We only missed a morning, and a second morning when it didn't really open until 10.30. But, yes, it probably did. snowHead snowHead snowHead I confess some frustration that I never got near either Valluga or Kapell. The "How many km of piste does a resort need" question was brought into focus. As there was generally only Gampenbahn and Nassereinbahn running (with guest appearances from Galzigbahn with only the black open, the top half inevitably in white out; and the Rendlbahn with its cranky 2-man chair running too) the skiing was very restricted indeed. Indeed I note that today looks even worse.

There are bits of the Arlberg that look *almost* like that, but it probably doesn't get much over the level of a car. That said, the back road between St Jakob and St Anton had a wall of snow on the upper side that must have been 10 feet high. Navigating that in a ski bus was entertaining...

http://lawine.tirol.gv.at/schnee-und-lawineninfo/messstationen/r1-arlberg-ausserfern/galzig/ and clicking on the "one month" suggests that for the ten days we were in resort the snowfall was:

50cm: 2 days
30-40cm: 2 days
20cm: 2 days
10-15cm: 2 days
5cm: 1 day
Sun: 1 day




Roll on the Dolomites on Saturday... where the long range forecast suggests the lows might just arrive over the Med on Saturday and bring the first proper snow of the season...


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Amazing photo,
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Yesterdays News 8th Jan.


http://youtube.com/v/TgmCLzYjGV0


Nice video end of December Off Piste Stuben down to Kaltenberghütte and down to the forest in Langen am Arlberg.

2011-12-28 Skifahren in Stuben from Made by Nidy
http://vimeo.com/34628110

Back to the Powder Very Happy

snow in st anton!!! from mark stokes
http://vimeo.com/34719194
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A good Apres Ski at the Mooserwirt Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


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There is finally a situation report (updated today at 13:45) in English on the St Anton Tourist Website

http://www.stantonamarlberg.com/en/winter/home/st.-anton-a.a.-ruestet-sich-fuer-ein-wochenende-mit-starkem-schneefall-2.html
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Thanks to all who are posting info on the current conditions, heading out to St Anton on Sunday and can't wait! Very Happy

The current conditions remind me of 1999 when I was in St Anton the week after the tragedy in Galtur, which was very sobering. Sad

It took the piste patrol about three days to get all the areas safe to open, So stay safe snowHeads and enjoy the powder when it opens up!









Ps. Leave some powder for me please Very Happy
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http://www.weerplaza.nl/wintersport/Oostenrijk/Ski+Arlberg/St.+Anton+am+Arlberg/18027 especially for you stanton,
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Here you can read my update of the redicules skiing/boarding on my Facebook page www.facebook.com/skiadventure.

Also the road is closed until at least 6pm tomorrow morning, the shuttel train between St. Anton and Bludenz are still not operating, maybe later today.

But, the skiing in the more safe places, like the Zwischen run or down from Gampen was just amazing today.

Still be careful on runs with grass underneath, like under the trees just above Tabs and Heustadel, here it's full of big ice balls and the snow is sliding all the time, somebody had to get air lifted out of there ealier today.

We're expecting just a small snowfall tonight, probaly about 15-20cm.

I will post some photos from the village later today.
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torbs, Re. The Huge avalanche in Maienwassen

Some folk are just plain idiots & no doubt will have short lives.
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A thaw below midstation due for the rest of the week.
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There have been some huge Avalanches in the Stanzertal .

Here is a photo of one a couple of days ago between between Pettneu am arlberg and St. Anton am Arlberg.

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http://youtube.com/v/bIrQ9ElQGkY&feature=g-hist&context=G276ac48AHTwtGtQAKAA Laughing keep watching
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boabski, Brilliant! " ...... if you're gonna be dumb, you've gotta be tough .... "
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As promised here is a link to some photos from the latest storms here in St. Anton https://picasaweb.google.com/torbengregersen/SnowStormsStAnton20112012?authuser=0&feat=directlink
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torbs, incredible stuff, thanks for sharing.
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Dobz, Had to download that song. torbs, Excellent pics
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Snowing lightly and will stop later this morning, still cloudy for the rest of the day, but sun is expected for the next 2 days, with slightly warmer temperatures.

The main road is now open and also the Arlberg Pas is open (with chains).

Some of the secondary roads down the valley are still closed.

The shuttle train to and from Bludenz are expected to start operating this afternoon.

The train to and from Innsbruck are expected to start again on Thursday.

Still take very much care if skiing off-piste here in St. Anton, just stay on the inbound off-piste runs.

Have a nice day.
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Just received an alert

Heavy snowfall continues to cause disruptions in western parts of Austria. Extensive travel disruptions have been reported in the states of Vorarlberg, Salzburg and Tyrol as a number of major roads are blocked and rail services remain partially suspended. As a result, several villages are currently inaccessible in the affected states. The snow storm has also increased the likelihood of avalanches in the affected areas, particularly on the slopes of Arlberg mountain range between Tyrol and Vorarlberg. Several popular ski resorts, including Lech-Zuers and Ischgl, have been isolated following road closures. As more heavy snow is expected in the coming days, further disruptions to road and rail travel are likely. In addition, sporadic disruptions to utilities, including electricity and telecommunication, are possible.

Source red24/BBC
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radar, Please check your sources and if it still applies and PARTICULAR check prior forum posts in this forum (just above yours), before you're posting something that is not VALID anymore - PLEASE.

No more heavy snow is expected, just a light snowfall on Friday and all access roads are open and accessible to the Arlberg ski areas.

Avalanche level today is a 3 out of 5.
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Just received an alert

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Source red24/BBC


Not sure who red24 are, but as Torbs says, their data is several days old! The BBC reported this a few days ago - I think stanton posted a link earlier in the thread.
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torbs, Re. The Huge avalanche in Maienwassen

Some folk are just plain idiots & no doubt will have short lives.


Sounds (from the P2P report) that is was a full-depth slide - I wonder if any glide cracks were visible before hand, or maybe they were filled in by the fresh snow?
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On a slightly different tack.

Is it the end of the party for St Anton?
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On a slightly different tack.

Is it the end of the party for St Anton?


It is a shame that a distinguished paper like the FT have there facts wrong about the beginnings & ownership of the Mooserwirt & also to somewhat the KK.

The biggest fear that Mountain Apres Ski Bars in St Anton & the rest of the resorts in the Tirol will be the new law currently being debated about forbidding skiing,boarding after the Pistes are closed i.e 17:00hrs.
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Even if you do not understand German Pay attention to the end of this News Report as this is the ground situation all over the place.


http://youtube.com/v/tC3vDV4o0iw




http://youtube.com/v/7CCJxKHPlu0
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It is a shame that a distinguished paper like the FT have there facts wrong about the beginnings & ownership of the Mooserwirt & also to somewhat the KK

written by Tim Robins who done an excellent book White Weekends. In that book he enthuses about St Anton and especially the Moos and KK, with (from memory) interviews with Eugan and Gunther.
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It is a shame that a distinguished paper like the FT have there facts wrong about the beginnings & ownership of the Mooserwirt & also to somewhat the KK

written by Tim Robins who done an excellent book White Weekends. In that book he enthuses about St Anton and especially the Moos and KK, with (from memory) interviews with Eugan and Gunther.


Agreed, it's an excellent book!

stanton, what was wrong with the article?
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I'm just back from St Anton and thought I would add some comment.

There was more snow than I think I have ever seen - incredible. The first people up Valluga (which was closed pretty much all week) will be spoilt! When they reopened the top of Rendl on Sunday, the snow was awesome, chest deep powder.

I did two days with Piste to Powder - which I can highly recommend.

I agree with the earlier comments regarding skiable area in stormy conditions - whilst I am sure the last 10 days are not common, the wind and av risk closed substantial parts of the mountain down. We were pleased to have gone to Lech and Zurs earlier in the week (on the only sunny day!).

On a cautionary note, a group behind us got caught in a slide under the Galzig chair on a lift served tree run on Wednesday. Apparently someone entered a bowl (without paying much attention) above another skier and set off an avalanche.

I'm now left wondering whether to buy some AK JJs, Bent Chetlers or Super 7s for next time!
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Has this one been done yet? (apologies if it has, and I missed it)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2084917/More-1-000-skiers-trapped-Apls-freak-18ft-snowfall.html

^^ the pic in there

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_le6a2vNxuw1qaeiv3o1_400.jpg

^^also looks familiar here

Never realised Austria, or Canada drove on the left. Looks a bit deep for Aviemore. Japan maybe?


Turned out quite a few guys at work, and those at DLR near Munich all bailed before heading out last Friday. Glad I did. Seems like they're all heading over this Friday though, but to the lower Tirolean villages.
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Oh THAT'S the photo I've been hearing about. Yes, it's Japan.

Good old DM, never let the facts get in the way of a story. I like how it says the pistes were 'closing down as darkness fell'. I think they'll find they always do that.

EDIT: Here are the real photos of that road in Honshu, Japan:

http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2010/12/29/so-you-think-you-have-snow/
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First sunny day today after the big snow storms.

Hopefully more lifts will open today, looks like the temperature will rise to around 0 at 2000m.

Avalanche danger level is a solid 3, even below the tree line, but rising slightly in the afternoon because of the rise in temperature.

If you are out here and going off-piste skiing, please take care, as it is on days like today, where the most avalanche accidents are happening - first sunny day after a storm.

Have fun.
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Enjoy your day folks. Looks amazing
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Enjoy it today.

St Anton am Arlberg from Powder to the People
http://vimeo.com/34859908

Tree Lines


http://youtube.com/v/iomRtzQ2JwI
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^^ looks amazing!

Oh my, the St Anton webcams are looking beautiful today (from my desk at work, sigh).
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The variable season continues !

OK folks it is very mild for this time of the season sun has been out . On Friday we will get some fresh dandruff maybe 10-20cms just to top up & cooler more seasonal temperatures should follow. Very Happy
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Are the roads back open lads, due to drive Zurich to Ischgl tomorrow night snowHead

Also should we be concerned about speed cameras en route, I've just been registered posted from Spain with a shot of my rental car breaking the law. Wasn't me, honest....

Have no accomodation for Sat night yet so might relocate to St Anton for Sunday's pre-flight skiing.

Anyone any thoughts about whether St Anton might be better on Sun than Ischgl? I've been to St Anton before and liked it but figured in these conditions it would attract more powder addicts so there might be more value, and less competition in Ischgl.

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Is Ischgl open to traffic yet? Today's Telegraph says there are 1,000 British skiers who have been stuck there since last weekend when they were supposed to be going home.
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Are the roads back open lads, due to drive Zurich to Ischgl tomorrow night snowHead

Also should we be concerned about speed cameras en route, I've just been registered posted from Spain with a shot of my rental car breaking the law. Wasn't me, honest....

Have no accomodation for Sat night yet so might relocate to St Anton for Sunday's pre-flight skiing.

Anyone any thoughts about whether St Anton might be better on Sun than Ischgl? I've been to St Anton before and liked it but figured in these conditions it would attract more powder addicts so there might be more value, and less competition in Ischgl.

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Not sure about Austria, but there are certainly cameras on the motorway near Zurich... Sad

You might have a hard time finding single night accommodation in St Anton, but if you're flexible and don't mind staying out of town you should get something.

There is probably less competition for the pow in Ischgl, but if you've been there all week I'd give St Anton a go anyway. Or Klosterle/Sonnenkopf, as you are on the way back to Zurich anyway - no idea how busy that gets on a weekend though?

Sorry - don't know the status of the roads. There's been no new snow today, but the warm temps could mean further closures if there are unstable slopes still to be dealt with.
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Also should we be concerned about speed cameras en route, I've just been registered posted from Spain with a shot of my rental car breaking the law. Wasn't me, honest....


Yes in Switzerland & Austria . The Police use unmarked cars & hand held radar. Exit from tunnels & avalanche gallery's are favourite spots.

Fines are HIGH.

If your stopped for speeding they will also check you for other regulations. If your drving Swiss registered car in Austria expect to be targeted !

Make sure your car is equipped for Austria with refelctive vests for driver and ALL passengers. These must be worn by all in the event of a breakdown. You can be fined if you do not have one and also for passengers.

Your need a Vignette for Austria as well.
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Not sure you'd find much less competition in Ischgl, it's not only Bognor-clad Russians who ski there.

Sonnenkopf could be a very good shout though...
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