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@BobinCH, nice !! movement skis too pricey for the missus , know I know why Toofy Grin
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@BobinCH, nice !! movement skis too pricey for the missus , know I know why Toofy Grin


Shhhhhhhhh!!!
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@spyderjon,

Thanks for the info. I'd have thought at least the manufactirer would know what he is doing, guess not.

Suppose there could be many slightly misalingned touring bindings out there (including the two pairs I have).
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@BobinCH, how do you like the Alpinists, get on great with mine, just wish the heel risers were a bit higher, but otherwise on my 2nd season with no issues other than a warranty on the heel riser mechanism
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@BobinCH, how do you like the Alpinists, get on great with mine, just wish the heel risers were a bit higher, but otherwise on my 2nd season with no issues other than a warranty on the heel riser mechanism


2 tours in first impressions are good. Seem easier to click into than the Xenics and love the lack of delta. I guess this is what contributes to the relatively low height of the heel riser but to be honest it doesn’t really bother me. I have the din’s on 10 and it’s quite an effort to twist the heel piece so the middle 5 degree riser looks pretty useless to me. And these Movement Alp Track skis are superb!!!
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Just thinking of legal loop holes here... is anyone prepared to adopt me so I can move over to the mainland for some skiing? Laughing
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Zero-G Scouts got a double thumbs up from the missus. She particularly likes the colour Very Happy


Celebrated at Bob’s bar
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Came across this group today saying how @BobinCH, had been coaching them Laughing



Isn’t that a SCGB La Grave group? My only pupil has perfect form Very Happy
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BobinCH wrote:
KenX wrote:
@BobinCH, how do you like the Alpinists, get on great with mine, just wish the heel risers were a bit higher, but otherwise on my 2nd season with no issues other than a warranty on the heel riser mechanism


2 tours in first impressions are good. Seem easier to click into than the Xenics and love the lack of delta. I guess this is what contributes to the relatively low height of the heel riser but to be honest it doesn’t really bother me. I have the din’s on 10 and it’s quite an effort to twist the heel piece so the middle 5 degree riser looks pretty useless to me. And these Movement Alp Track skis are superb!!!


I never use the intermediate riser..........
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@BobinCH, my Mrs would approve of your Mrs's colour co-ordination Laughing

Though your Mrs still has a few years before she is a 1664.....
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@KenX,

Funny old world. I only use the intermediate riser. Saves all that twisting.
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zzz wrote:
@KenX,

Funny old world. I only use the intermediate riser. Saves all that twisting.


The twist sure is stiff but after a few pre-releases on other bindings this is strangely reassuring
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@BobinCH, not too sure if you've received their application to join the "Wallies Group" Laughing



What was quite amazing was the amount of clothing the Mother was wearing, including a huge scarf wrapped around her neck.

But jokes aside saw loads of people going up the hill(s) as I was out on the XC track linking up a couple of the ski areas where the pistes come back into the valleys.

Maybe the shite weather and dire snowpack etc is a blessing in disguise as would be very serious if many of these skiers that I see were actually out in more demanding/dangerous conditions though I think on the whole most are only skinning up to the mid-stations.

A friend said that there is already a concern for next season if these people go off aspiring to do some slack-country and get into pooh.
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Not sure our boy is cut out to be a rando chien Very Happy

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Head of St Gervais SAR interviewed on local radio the other day imploring would be randonneurs to at least have the needed skill to get back downhill after their ascent ...
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BobinCH wrote:
Not sure our boy is cut out to be a rando chien Very Happy


I've only taken our next-gen Rando-Chien out once, ended in a trip to the vets for 2 stitches in her paw, she was playing with the skis at the start and got run over, didn't come near them after that.....The vet says they only do it once, then have respect for the edges!

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Not sure our boy is cut out to be a rando chien Very Happy ......


And deep snow slows them down Laughing
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FFS every time I read this thread I have to rethink my plans of not buying a place out in the alps!!
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Whoops... it was the colour your honour
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Celebrated at Bob’s bar


I dread to think how much that bag of tyrells crisps cost in Switzerland Laughing
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BobinCH wrote:

Celebrated at Bob’s bar


I dread to think how much that bag of tyrells crisps cost in Switzerland Laughing


4,95chf in the Brit section of Coop. The missus loves ‘em so just got to suck it up...
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Head of St Gervais SAR interviewed on local radio the other day imploring would be randonneurs to at least have the needed skill to get back downhill after their ascent ...


Leave them to it I say. The ski down is always overrated!
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Whoops... it was the colour your honour


Are they for you and where do they slot into your quiver??
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kitenski wrote:
BobinCH wrote:
Whoops... it was the colour your honour


Are they for you and where do they slot into your quiver??


DPS Yvette 112 Alchemists 168’s. Not for me but I have someone in my household who loves a bit of baby blue!
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Off to a good start this morning, mate pulled up gets out and then looks in the back of his van and then announces he's forgotten his skis rolling eyes
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Off to a good start this morning, mate pulled up gets out and then looks in the back of his van and then announces he's forgotten his skis rolling eyes


That old China. He probably just wanted to sample your quiver Very Happy
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Wally quiver complete (for now)! Thanks @Spyderjon and @Gorilla
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@BobinCH, Mmmmmm can see a Quiver fight on the cards - can we add our OH's as well Laughing
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@BobinCH, what are the various bindings?

I quite enjoyed this as long as you understand he’s sponsored by Salomon!


http://youtube.com/v/BedSGuuLW58
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@BobinCH, Mmmmmm can see a Quiver fight on the cards - can we add our OH's as well Laughing


The Speed guide 80’s are for the missus so yes!
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@BobinCH, what are the various bindings?

I quite enjoyed this as long as you understand he’s sponsored by Salomon!


http://youtube.com/v/BedSGuuLW58


Left: Marker Alpinist 12
Middle: Fritschi Xenic 10
Right: ATK Crest 10
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Anyone wax their skins? Just run hard wax on them or actually melt wax and run the iron over them?

And iron over gluey side to make them sticky again?
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I rub hard wax both ways to stop snow build-up, use the same temp wax as you use on the base for current conditions.
If you iron the glue side to perk the glue up, use the waxy sheets that came with the skins between the iron and glue side of skins.......
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@BobinCH, I'd get the release value checked on the Alpinist 12, the forward release is dictated by the U-spring and is probably ~Din 12..........
You can change to a softer spring, cheap as chips, I went from the medium on my Alpinist 9 to the soft as I run Din 6 on my bindings.....
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From Wild Snow review:
"I was pleasantly surprised when my Vermont binding checker showed me the EXACT number I dialed on the printed lateral binding scale (DIN standard allows significant variation). Other companies actually add the settings scale late in the manufacturing process, so it can be positioned for accurate calibration, perhaps that’s what Marker does. Incidentally, the spring they shipped pegged my checker scale in vertical mode, way too high for me. Two other springs are available, “Medium” and “Low.” Our test binding is a model “12” so it understandably defaults to the strongest spring. Lateral release scale ranges from 6 to 12."
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The hard spring is round, the medium has a flat section on the outside, the soft is marked "soft" and has a larger flat machined section
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Anyone wax their skins? Just run hard wax on them or actually melt wax and run the iron over them?

I rub hard wax in both directions then run the iron over them lightly tip to tail to set the wax onto the fibres. Don't know if its the best way or not but seems to work ok.
Good tip about the glue side - will give it a go. Very Happy
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KenX wrote:
From Wild Snow review:
"I was pleasantly surprised when my Vermont binding checker showed me the EXACT number I dialed on the printed lateral binding scale (DIN standard allows significant variation). Other companies actually add the settings scale late in the manufacturing process, so it can be positioned for accurate calibration, perhaps that’s what Marker does. Incidentally, the spring they shipped pegged my checker scale in vertical mode, way too high for me. Two other springs are available, “Medium” and “Low.” Our test binding is a model “12” so it understandably defaults to the strongest spring. Lateral release scale ranges from 6 to 12."


I’m running my Alpinists on 10. More scared of pre-releases than anything else to be honest after the Xenic experience. How do you check the release? Is there some tool for it?
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BobinCH wrote:
.......How do you check the release? Is there some tool for it?

You need a specialist machine and an operater experienced in testing tech bindings. https://www.thepisteoffice.com/index.php/2015-06-24-16-30-03/binding-release-testing.html

There's also a Vermont Binding Tester which is a large torque wrench with a dummy leg/foot that goes inside the boot, but they're nowhere near as consistent as a pucka machine. A lot of shops in the US use the Vermont Tester as is quicker to use and costs waaaaaay less than a machine and they have a legal requirement to test every binding they mount or adjust, even if it's new.

I've tested quite a few of the hard U-Bows on Alpinist 12's and they average out at 11 din. Can't remember having one that tested below 10 or over 12 - so within the din specs even though it's not a din certified binding. Obviously this only for the vertical release as they have an adjustable lateral release.


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BobinCH wrote:
Anyone wax their skins? Just run hard wax on them or actually melt wax and run the iron over them?

And iron over gluey side to make them sticky again?


I just use Nikwax Ski Skin Proof - but I'm interested to find out if I would be better waxing them (sadly not this season)!
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