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rob@rar, i have been on the les arcs site trying to find out if you can buy one day passes? the wife only wants to ski a few days and wanted to know if you could buy a day at a time and also how much the day pass was.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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andybabes, yes you can buy half day and one day passes
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andybabes, the prices are here. Ignore the Paradiski prices as those tickets are not being sold this season because of the closure of the Vanoise Express.
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rob@rar, Great pics, pity I will miss you again. I am around for a few weeks, are you out at half term. We really must meet up for that beer soon. Cheers
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Great day too, Early morning on the Varet / Genepi, then Dou de l'Homme/KL below Aiguille rouge. Snow squeaky high up, clouds building tonight as I head for bed, perhaps the forecast is true. Hope so because we are booked for lunch at l'Ancolie tomorrow, having been disappointed that Belliou La Fumee couldn't take us today.Home weds pm so not much snow time left.
We had great fun hooning around the soft piste / inbetween piste at 1600 this afternoon. Still great skiing, and if the forecast prove right then a great week ahead for you guys coming out, although its 5o outside the house at the mo  ment
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tthefatcontroller, Mouth, rob@rar, Thanks for the info and links...as i said wife doensnt want to ski a lot so will probably get day passes. I have read on the les arcs site that there is some free skiing [ free use of certain lifts] can anyone give me a bit of more info on these lifts / drags and also free night skiing , i see that finishes at 7pm does anyone know what time it starts. Any info would gratefully be received from all you 
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Woke up in arc 1950 this morning to around 15 cm fresh overnight, still snowing quite heavily (8 am), and forecast to continue till around 1pm, when it will clear. Looks like there will be some amazing skiing this afternoon - waxing them up as we speak. Skking was superb anyway, this will just make it even better.
Robrar, the only free lift as far as I know is the cablecar that goes from arc 1950 to 2000, there is then a very short run down back into arc 1950, literally 200m, can't imagine anybody would survive on that!!!
Forecast clear for the rest of the week, with maybe a flurry on Friday, wow i cant believe what a perfect week we chose 
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Anyone know if the combe (72) draglift in plan piesey is free?
Always just go past it to back to the bottom of the main lift, but it doesn't seem to have turnstiles.
For the cost of a short hike this could potentially give you a nice red (combe) and a black (ecureuils) for free.
Tux
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thefatcontroller, not sure the over 72 free bit is correct, my dad got charged 5E for his pass? Mind you I suppose that could have been the deposit for the pass?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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You know it makes sense.
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Very snowy all day today, probably 10-15cm fresh in Peisey, haven't ventured further afield than P-V because the visibility too poor. All pistes now in great nick, and some fresh still to be had around the sides. Very tired legs. Pic from yesterday - looking down on Ecureiles from a parapente:
[img]www.flickr.com/photos/14716552@N02/2211873455/[/img]
and on the Tuffes yesterday
[img]www.flickr.com/photos/14716552@N02/2211732824/[/img]
Edit - just no good at this picture business
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thefatcontroller, yes used the under 6 one for youngest this year. Can save a bit on a family lift pass for 2+2 but agree, as a real man myself, should be a lift pass for 3 kids
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Poster: A snowHead
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andybabes,
night skiing in 1950/2000 is on the Marmottes piste, but effectively it just means the Marmottes lift stays open until 7pm - its only 'free' in the sense that you don't have to pay any more for it! Lights are put on when it gets dark, but the lift doesn't close at the normal time, you just stay on skiing. So anything you can get to from the lift is effectively OK, and when it gets that little bit darker, some of the unlit pistes can be quite ... interesting...
wrt to other free lifts, St Jacques used to be free, but I don't think it is anymore. I thought I had heard that you could "pay per ride" on it (?€3?) but I would be grateful for any confirmation of that.
Another way to get a free ski, say on the day you arrive, is to ski down to Pre St Esprit, and then get the free Navette ( every half hour) back up to 1950/2000. Its a blue, a "ski tranquille" once past Bois de l'Ours, and a very good run for new skiiers or the less confident. Probably about 1.5 - 2 km from 2000 to the bottom.
Time it right, and frankly its quicker than getting the Pre St Esprit lift, which take 15 minutes anyway. We've done that when the Q has been long for the lift, so it is perfectly feasible. Time it wrong, and there's a bar just by the bus stop, so not really a major problem!
Boris, AFAIR the +72 is indeed €5, but that's for the season.
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JimW, Pre St Esprit lift - Thought Vega in La Plagne was slow however one can forgive it as you get to ski Comborciere 
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thefatcontroller, Pre St Esprit and Comborciere lifts are clearly twins, and probably installed the same time. I wonder if there is an onlline history that would show the restaurant, the car park and the lifts all being part of a 'development' plan... I shall go for a look.
I'd be happy for them not to upgrade Comb though, for it's age/speed/ appearance discourages casual use, and it heads up to Malgovert, and that's just for us in the know eh?!
But if they could do something with PSE, and lengthen it so you could get off the top to Arcabulle without a pole across the flats, then I think the resort would be the better for it - not least because it would give an alternate car-park at the bottom for the day trippers.
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snowcrazy, .... we managed the Bellecote North face on Tuesday 15th Jan, ... the race - Le Derbie du Derby, to celebrate the opening of the new Derby chair on Wednesday 16th and Grand Col on Saturday 19th Jan .... well good week ... !
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thefatcontroller, meant to look - never did! Found another 'piste watching' station at the top of the Mont Blanc Chair out of 1600, and that wasn't marked so explicitly on the piste map, so have eliminated ( from my own mind anyway) that it is a research patch looking at piste depth trends. You could be right re trees. I promise to have an other look at Easter. Or we could engage Rob to check it out again.
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Not entirely sure what Piste Alpina is, but I think it might be a speed trap sponsored by Alpina Savoie (dairy products IIRC). There might have been something similar near Arc 2000 last season? From the piste map it looks like it might be on the bottom section of the area they (used to?) use for slalom racing, although the timing hut at the finish line was removed for last season when the dismantled the old drag lift there. Whatever is supposed to be there I haven't seen anything and I've spent a lot of time on the Tuffes piste in the last few days.
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rob@rar, Kept passing it on chairs and there are signs up at the entrance explaining what it is. I just kept forgetting to stop on the way down to look  Its a very small piece of piste cordoned of just in front of the Plagnettes lift.
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[quote="JimW"]andybabes,
Another way to get a free ski, say on the day you arrive, is to ski down to Pre St Esprit, and then get the free Navette ( every half hour) back up to 1950/2000. Its a blue, a "ski tranquille" once past Bois de l'Ours, and a very good run for new skiiers or the less confident. Probably about 1.5 - 2 km from 2000 to the bottom.
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Is this a (the only?) route into tree lined skiing if the weather is down and you're staying at Arc 2000? A couple of people have mentioned the risk of white out or high winds up there...some friends were trapped in Val Thorens over New Year with no lifts open - but maybe Arc 2000 is better off if you can get into the trees?
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kewhoward, if in 2000 a good place to head in poor visibility is the Villaroger sector. You can access it either via the Lanchettes chairlift, or ski down to Pre St Didier cross the road and catch the Rhonaz lift (no 44 on the map) to cut into the trees (although this lift is often closed). You can also head towards 1600 (via the Comborciere lift) or Pesiey (via the Bois de l'Ours lift). Lots of options for finding sheltered skiing, although as your starting point is so high there will be some skiing above the tree line before you can head for better visibility.
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Thanks again rob@rar, another invalauable bit of info to add to the file...
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kewhoward, the only time I've had lifts close is because of very high wind, and then the lifts stayed shut all day rather than closing midway through the day. I doubt they would close because of poor visibility. If the wind does get very strong it is always good policy to ski in the same valley as you are staying in, regardless of resort. Having said that the only people I've heard got stuck in the wrong valley while in Les Arcs it was "operator error" rather than lifts closing unexpectedly. That's almost happened to me on a couple of occasions.
If you get stuck in 1600 or 1800 there is a free resort shuttle which runs until late and will get you back to 2000. You would normally be OK to ski from Villaroger along the 'rhonaz' piste as far as Pre St Didier, then the Pre Saint Express (if ever there was a misnomer!) chairlift up to 2000 or catch the shuttle bus. If this failed a taxi to Bourg then catch the funicular. Getting stuck in Villandry or Peisey might be more of a problem as you would have to get a taxi to Bourg then funicular and shuttle bus.
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That's great rob@rar, sounds like its a lot less financially risky than 3V... Will have to watch out for operator error though - particularly when it manifests itself as misreading the piste map re. which direction is "down" (I can usually tell when on the mountain itself)
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Poster: A snowHead
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Hi Folks,
Heading out to Les Arcs this weekend and it looks as though it is going to be hot/hot/hot with no fresh stuff over the next few days, any tips on where to look for some lift accessed off piste that might hold some soft/powder snow, experienced skier and boarder spoiled by Scotland's powder over the last few weeks.
Also can anyone recommend a cheap guide for off piste? or open to offers from Rob@Rar and friends to meet up?
Is it worth taking the Discouverte pass for a day in La Plagne with the Vanoise off? Is it best to go down to Bourg and try and get to Montchavin?
We normally take the La Plagne accommodation option but decided on Les Arcs this year.
Thanks
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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snowscot, Just get a Les Arcs pass. As the Vanosie is shut with a Les Arcs pass this year you can ski any day in La Plagne for free. There we 8 of us in Peisey recently and we got a Taxi to Montchavin for 20 euro per person return which was great value. To get best value from a day in La Plagne (if you don't have your own transport) best try and get a few together and get a taxi across. Enjoy yourself
Last edited by Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person on Wed 23-01-08 23:41; edited 1 time in total
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Just back from our "Long Weekend". Wednesday skied fresh powder down the Tuffes a few runs, followed by the Ours and than the gully the other side of the Ours ridge which was a bit crusty and heavy, then to the right of the Comborcieres - knee deep powder with the occasional heavy bit, and down Deux Tetes which was almost untracked onto Mont Blanc for a refreshing bashed piste blast. Snow good and squeaky right down to 1600, although there is some windblown crust on East / South facing slopes and the odd icy patch at intersections. Snowmaking was going on and is likely to continue with the forecast cold temperatures. Anyone going this weekend is going to have a blast!
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Also can anyone recommend a cheap guide for off piste? or open to offers from Rob@Rar and friends to meet up?
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Sorry, I'm back in London now and won't be back in Les Arcs for a week or so. I don't have any personal recommendations for guides although you could talk to http://www.initial-snow.com/uk/index.html or http://www.guidesdesarcs.com/ to see if they are suitable.
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rob@rar, They had slalom poles out on Tuffes - out to the left where the skier cross course was last 2 years - on Monday and it looked as though theye were doing some instructor training there. Is that where you meant. I haven't seen the Piste Alpina either, but we haven't been skiing on the pistes all the time.
- I'd just want a good one. The older the better to my mind as well!
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| Martin Nicholas wrote: |
| They had slalom poles out on Tuffes - out to the left where the skier cross course was last 2 years - on Monday and it looked as though theye were doing some instructor training there. Is that where you meant. I haven't seen the Piste Alpina either, but we haven't been skiing on the pistes all the time. |
That area is still marked on the piste map as a stade, so that would explain it I guess. Piste Alpina is still a mystery!
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Hi Everyone,
We're on the 15:00 Heathrow to Lyon tomorrow (2 weeks yippee!), anyone know what the roads from up to Vallandry / Nancrois are like at the moment? As there hasn't been much new snow I'm hoping we won't need the chains this time.
AllanM
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Roads completely clear and dry to Peisey, a bit in the middle of the road at Plan Peisey and in the car parks - have a great time, the snow is fabulous, you won't need chains unless access to your accommodation is tricky.
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snowscot, Hi I am back in Les Arcs next week so if you want to pm me. we can arrange an off piste day if you are interested.
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FAQ
Real man have 3 kids 
) what do you do if in 1600 and the weather comes in - is it a taxi back or is there a bus? Is the same true for Villaroger? And how much might the local economy benefit from such a situation (After a lift broke down in L'Oriel 3v I was once quoted 300 Euros back to Mottaret 
