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The Arlberg Snow Report 2016/2017 (Cold Front May 7th Snow Sunday)

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@stanton, have they done anything with Taps over the off-season? Used to love it there, but it hasn't developed at all, and the fact they've had EXACTLY the same aprs play list for 5 years was just too much for me last season (the Cotton eyed Joe gag get's tired after 2 days, never mind 5 years). KK or Griabli (mood dependant) for me this year I reckon.
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Another Sunny Day in Paradise enjoy it before the Tourist arrive & we go into full RipOff mode Happy


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Couple of videos here of the New Lifts in Operation

https://www.facebook.com/Sporthotel-Lor%C3%BCnser-173278016019774/
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@Dr John, griabli not the same since CCJ's and Snowtones stopped playing there. Still serves the best pint on the hill though 🍻
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http://www.planetski.eu/news/8540
Nice wee article in the new Flexenbahn
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Folks. The Weather.

It is generally going to dry & sunny up to Xmas. There be a scattering of snow over but nothing significant. Therefore what you see on the Webcams is what your going to get over the next two weeks.

Hopefully things will change after Xmas..looks like the previous two seasons all over again...
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Give you an idea of conditions

Top of Schindler to Rauz


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I know some of you folks love St Anton, and I'm one of you having been there over 20 times with another trip coming up in 3 weeks. I've often thought I would like to find out a bit about the history of the place, but found it hard as I don't speak Austrian. Anyway I've just read a great book by Franz Gabl the Olympic medallist in 1948 who was brought up in St Anton. He describes his early life in the village in the 1920s/30s working for Hannes Schneider and his father. He also covers the nazification of St Anton after the anchsluss, and the four years he spends on the Russian front in the war, and much more. The book is called "FRANZL", I couldn't put it down for two days so thought I would share it with you.
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xscreamer wrote:
I know some of you folks love St Anton, and I'm one of you having been there over 20 times with another trip coming up in 3 weeks. I've often thought I would like to find out a bit about the history of the place, but found it hard as I don't speak Austrian. Anyway I've just read a great book by Franz Gabl the Olympic medallist in 1948 who was brought up in St Anton. He describes his early life in the village in the 1920s/30s working for Hannes Schneider and his father. He also covers the nazification of St Anton after the anchsluss, and the four years he spends on the Russian front in the war, and much more. The book is called "FRANZL", I couldn't put it down for two days so thought I would share it with you.


Very interesting, I will take a look
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Long Term Weather.

It looks as if we are now looking into 2017 for a Decent Storm .
Current Weather suggests it will be dry, way to mild & sunny (occasional very light dust at altitude) up to the 29th December.

Here is the Official Arlberg Weather Story for next few days

Weather

The calm and settled high pressure weather will continue until and beyond the weekend. Bright sunshine will determine the weather. Clear skies or at least almost clear skies are forecast. Clouds are only exceptionally expected. The wind in the mountains will remain weak and the temperatures will remain too mild for the season in the high mountain regions. Lower temperatures are expected in the valleys, particularly in the mornings.
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xscreamer wrote:
I don't speak Austrian.
LOL Very Happy Maybe you should try German?

There are quite a few Franzl's in St Anton & neighboring villages. They were certainly not one of the first settlers.

If you want to know about the History you can run this through a translator (German)

http://www.st-anton.at/gemeinde/gemeinde-inhalte/ueber-st-anton/historische-hintergruende.html
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The New Gondola's.

These fotos were taken in last couple of days. The snow situation is same today & not likely to improve unfortunately for the next 14 days .

http://www.remontees-mecaniques.net/bdd/reportage-tcd10-flexenbahn-doppelmayr-6001.html

http://www.remontees-mecaniques.net/bdd/reportage-tcd10-trittkopfbahn-doppelmayr-6002.html

http://www.remontees-mecaniques.net/bdd/reportage-tcd10-albonabahn-ii-doppelmayr-6003.html
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My weather app says snow Thursday and Friday 22nd/ 23rd, I'm not concerned its cold.....arrive Friday. It's never let me down yet. Locals are having great fun at altitude, my FB is full of pals enjoying themselves up high. I'm busy snow-dancing though...... wink
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There be a dip in the Temperature next week so they will be able to put the cannons on 24*7 & there will be some very light snow at altitude on 1 or 2 days.

However, after Xmas it will get significantly warmer until the New Year.

There is no major Storm in the forecast probably now until 2017.

Anyone out here for Xmas/Sylvester will only need normal shoe wear for town & maybe an umbrella.
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Google translate from alpinforum:

The season has begun!

Probably will be on Friday, 16.12. The following plants are also in operation:
Vallugabahnen I + II (for pedestrians) | Kindlisfeldlift | Tramway | Muldenlift | Rendlbahn (as a feeder) Maassbahn | Gampbergbahn (of course the Kassa am Rendl is also opened)

Additionally, the following restaurants are also available:
Bella Vita and Valluga View as well as Rendl Restaurant

The following plants are expected to start on Saturday, 17.12. In operation:
Cableway | Arlenmähderderbahn
In addition of course the restaurant at the Kapall.

There is the Wedel-Wochen-Tarif from 17.12. Until 23.12.2016.
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Kindlislift is actually Fangbahn I think
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And cableway was originally kapallbahn
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Kindlislift is not Fangbahn. Fangbahn is the chair that goes from behind the wellness to just up and across the piste from the Rodelalm, Kindlisfeld is the button at the WM stadion.
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My mistake, they're both supposed to open
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Just booked a reasonably priced wee single room in a crystal chalet in St Anton for the second week of Feb (recently seperated, not stopping me getting the board beneath my feet though!).
Been to Austria loads but never the Arlberg region, seems I've got 13 pages to catch up on!! Very Happy Very Happy

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Yes tomorrow Rendl opens this is the normal opening day, they never open the first two weeks of the season.

It is unclear yet weather the piste down (Rendltalfarht) will be officially open. Last two seasons it was not but they cant stop you going for it, just have to be careful of the snowlines, trenches & piles of artificial snow (suggest use rock skis) etc Happy

If its closed officially you can just download via Gondola.

They have been pumping snow on Kapall despite the temperature inversion.

In recent seasons they have been marking normal (blue & red ) as itinerary skiroutes which is great as it dissuades folks from using them Happy
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They're having a good old moan on the German forum about the Arlberg's dire lack of snowmaking...

Too reliant on natural snow leaves them in the current position where their offer under these conditions is very much inferior to rival ski areas.
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Ischgl rules
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@notnats, can you delete that before @stanton sees it and gives you a lecture about why you are wrong Happy Happy
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red 27 wrote:
They're having a good old moan on the German forum about the Arlberg's dire lack of snowmaking...

Too reliant on natural snow leaves them in the current position where their offer under these conditions is very much inferior to rival ski areas.


They were blowing plenty when I was touring there in November. Made a mess of the natural snow in lots of places.
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red 27 wrote:
They're having a good old moan on the German forum about the Arlberg's dire lack of snowmaking...

Too reliant on natural snow leaves them in the current position where their offer under these conditions is very much inferior to rival ski areas.


That is simply not true & you cannot compare Ischgl with St Anton . Ischgl has predominately North Facing slopes so it is a lot easier for them to retain the snow they make. St Anton only has Rendl with predom North Facing.

St Anton has invested millions into snow making , they can cover all the Pistes in approx 3 days going 24*7 and even at the end of April we still ski on Manmade Pistes all the way to the Valley south facing slopes !!
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@notnats, can you delete that before @stanton sees it and gives you a lecture about why you are wrong Happy Happy


Yes delete! Ischgl circa 1985 was fantastic now its sold out to the masses
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Ischgl money stays in Ischgl to develop the resort, hence the piste management is amazing, St Anton has to give a proportion of its money to in investment company
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Rendltalfarht (valley run) was not officially open today, jump/go under the ropes or download via Gondola.
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Ok Folks there has been a shift/change in the longer term weather.

It now looks as if around 28/29 Dec the temperature will cool down, likely rain to start then snow 29th onwards including 31st where temperature will really start to drop -6C or below in town.

Bring it on!!
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Ischgl money stays in Ischgl to develop the resort, hence the piste management is amazing, St Anton has to give a proportion of its money to in investment company


Precisely they groomed over the whole area selling out to the carpet skiers destroying what they could of had endless off Piste powder like in the Arlberg.
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Few more lifts open in Lech. Madloch is closed

Rendltaffahrt (Valley run) is still officially closed. Gampberg chair is open.

Warth Schrocken very limted only two lifts running.

Sonnenkopf closed opens 22nd for Foot Passengers only

St Anton Schongraben closed.
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stanton wrote:
Ok Folks there has been a shift/change in the longer term weather.

It now looks as if around 28/29 Dec the temperature will cool down, likely rain to start then snow 29th onwards including 31st where temperature will really start to drop -6C or below in town.

Bring it on!!


Cancel above another shift in weather again not what we want from 28th will turn much warmer +6C is forecast into 2017 . The snow potential has gone for now.

Fluid situation around the 28th

rolling eyes rolling eyes
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@stanton, let's face it, you haven't a clue what the weather is going to do.
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@erica2004, Yep, given the title of the thread its proper irony...... rolling eyes ....the weather apps clearly work in Holland but not as accurately.
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Hope this works... snow condition report from Franz Trimmel; top of Valluga. https://www.facebook.com/alloffpiste/posts/1183577678384773
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Hope this works... snow condition report from Franz Trimmel; top of Valluga. https://www.facebook.com/alloffpiste/posts/1183577678384773


And the pertinent comments from Franz (I only recently connected the dots and realised I lived next door to him in Innsbruck for 2 years!):

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Snowpack on top of the Valluga in St. Anton. About 75 cm of sugar snow.


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It looks probably fun but this is the base right now which is very weak. It will take several weeks till it will stabilise or an avalanche will "clean" the face
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