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The Arlberg snow report 2011/12

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VolklAttivaS5, I'm hoping (weather permitting) to get there on Saturday - looks like it will be epic snow - if we can get on to it !
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deerman, I think it's going to be clear on Monday at least (and very cold I think). I'm on a Snoworks course all day everyday except the following Saturday so I'm going where they go really Toofy Grin

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Sick of snow and closed pistes (only a handful open today and it hasn't even snowed properly yet), and it's going to be worse tomorrow! Ghastly queues, even worse visibility all day.

As there's only a smidgen of fresh snow about (unless I'm much mistaken) I've no idea why everything was shut today.
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Sick of snow and closed pistes (only a handful open today and it hasn't even snowed properly yet), and it's going to be worse tomorrow! Ghastly queues, even worse visibility all day.

As there's only a smidgen of fresh snow about (unless I'm much mistaken) I've no idea why everything was shut today.


The weather reports show strong winds - gusting up to 95kmh on Galzig, so I guess that would explain the closures.

Looks like there was more open at Lech, worth getting the bus tomorrow I'd say (if the road is open of course...).
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VolklAttivaS5, I'm flying out with Thomson's (and getting their transport to St Anton), but arranged a chalet myself. It's dutch owned, and unfortunately in St Jacob, but I was struggling to find accommodation from Saturday - Saturday.
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deerman, oh right. I have booked my own flight from Manchester to Zurich, then using the Arlberg Express coach to get there, and have sorted out a very good value B&B in St Anton itself but a 10 min walk to the lifts. That's ok with me because I quite like a walk first thing, I will keep my skis and boots at the lifts anyway because the dryers are awesome (well they are in the Alber check in-that's the only one I've ever tried).

I am flying out with a pal and we will be on the course obviously all day but if you fancy meeting for a beer one evening (we will be out to get food anyway I expect) then PM me and we can probably sort something out.
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The Galzigbahn was open yesterday, but only the number 2 black run open from it which seemed very peculiar. It was pretty foul at the top all day long, wind blowing powder everywhere, reducing visibility to nil - parts of the slope had grass showing through.

Nassereinbahn (sp?) had queues of 30+ minutes.

Rendlbahn was mostly OK, but I was rather nervous of finding huge queues at the bottom of the two-man chairs so didn't go that way.

Not sure going to Lech today when 22cm of snow is forecast by the end of skiing, and a further 26 later is a good idea...

Anyway, snowing now at resort level.
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The weather today is as stanton already has warned about going to be very severe and extreme, especially late afternoon and tonight.

We are expecting 1m of snow for the next 24-36 hours, with very strong winds up to gale force tonight.

The snow will continue tomorrow Friday and Saturday you can expect a little sun before the next storm hits us Saturday night to Sunday, looks like a mixture of sun and snow next week.

Expect most of the area to be closed after midday today and tomorrow morning lifts will probably be opening late due to avalanche work.
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The combination of quickly dropping temperatures, plus heavy snowfall, plus storm velocity winds will create a critical avalanche situation in Tirol as of this afternoon

http://lawine.tirol.gv.at/english/

http://www.tt.com/csp/cms/sites/tt/Tirol/4088715-2/schnee-und-sturm-in-tirol-wird-es-ab-nachmittag-turbulent.csp

We expect to wind gusting to 130 km !

http://kurier.at/nachrichten/4479986-lawinengefahr-der-westen-zittert-vor-schneechaos.php



Regarding Lift Closures.

This is due to the high velocity wind gusts . Gampen lifts & Rendlbahn are sheltered a lot more from the Westerley storm force winds . The lifts can only operate up to certain tolerances.

The Galzigbahn (Funitel) I believe can operate in upto 100km hr winds but I dont think they even risk that !

Anyone thninking of going to Lech or Zurs to ski be prepared to be cutoff or stranded there. It is very likely the Flexenpass & ArlbergPass will be closed later.

Yes Folks its SNOWING again Very Happy

Keep your eye on this weatherstation meter over the next 24hrs

http://lawine.tirol.gv.at/schnee-und-lawineninfo/messstationen/r1-arlberg-ausserfern/ulmerhuette/


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Anyone thninking of going to Lech or Zurs to ski be prepared to be cutoff or stranded there. It is very likely the Flexenpass & ArlbergPass will be closed later.



Good point. That would be an expensive night (or a very cold one).

Seriously, if you did get stranded on that side are there any places to stay that don't cost a fortune?
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[b]VolklAttivaS5[/b ], for future reference what's the name of the reasonable b & b. Thanks.
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Seriously, if you did get stranded on that side are there any places to stay that don't cost a fortune

Stuben is cheap if you get stranded there. The Olympic (?) Gasthof beside the Oberlech cable car looked fairly reasonable from memory
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Seriously, if you did get stranded on that side are there any places to stay that don't cost a fortune?


It is all well rehersed by the the Gemeinde (City Council). Anyone without a room gets put up in the Sports Hall & Hotels for Free. The same for people caught in St Christoph or St Anton. If your real lucky you may even get a room in The Arlberg Hospiz !

This afternoon the Storm is now gaining in strength, snow falling at quite a few cm per hour!! Very Happy

FORGET any Off Piste for the next few days. The situation will be CRITICAL

""Bundesheer in Bereitschaft

Sowohl in Vorarlberg als auch in Tirol ist das Bundesheer in Bereitschaft, um im Katastrophenfall helfen zu können. Vier Hubschrauber vom Typ "Bell 212" und "Alouette 3" sind für Erkundungsflüge der Lawinenkommissionen und des Lawinenwarndienstes zur Verfügung gestellt. Vor Samstag wird das Wetter laut Experten keine Flüge zulassen. Im Ernstfall können die Hubschrauber Mannschaftstransporte, Versorgungs-und Evakuierungsflüge durchführen.""

Brief Translation.

The Armed forces are on Standby in Voralberg and Tirol in readiness in case of a disaster.

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This afternoon the Storm is now gaining in strength, snow falling at quite a few cm per hour!!

FORGET any Off Piste for the next few days. The situation will be CRITICAL



Shocked Shocked

Roll on 27th!!
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I can't WAAAAAIT to get to St Anton. The next four weeks are going to go so slowly. Please post lots of photos of the new snow!
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It is all well rehersed by the the Gemeinde (City Council). Anyone without a room gets put up in the Sports Hall & Hotels for Free. The same for people caught in St Christoph or St Anton. If your real lucky you may even get a room in The Arlberg Hospiz !


Now there's a thought... Happy

Where did you get that graphic from by the way, looks very interesting. Might have to get my wife to help me read it (my German skills run out when it's not a restaurant menu).
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Very similar to yesterday really, except the snow was falling more quickly! Snow was great for skiing, and you could find bits of piste with 6 inches of fresh powder. And bits of piste with no snow at all. Deposited in the next county. Meanwhile the weather seems to be having a bit of a break at the moment. However we're looking out for the military...
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We got "stuck" in Lech one afternoon, about 2 or 3 years ago, when the Arlbergpass closed. Finished up catching the Post bus to Langen and train back to StA. Obviously that option is not available if the Flexenpass is closed.
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Arlbergpass and Flexenpass (Zurs, Langen) are closed. No way in & no way out Very Happy
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First blast of the morning just happened. I see Ulmerhutte now recording 392 (actually, 393 now). Compared to 320 24 hours ago.

Another blast, and the sky lit up orange just before we heard it!
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No skiing today, at least not off-piste way to much snow and much more expected today, stay on the piste today whatever will open, drink some chocholate, go to the sauna and relaxe, maybe tomorrow will be a bit beter.

Avalanche danger is too high.
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Ok Folks, today is time to catch up with all that lost sleep. Everything is delayed in opening. Even the lower kinderlifts are closed !

Bus connection from Flirsch & Strengen to St Anton is not possible due to Avalanche control.

AlbergPass, FlexenPass are not likely to be open today. Zurs Lech & Stuben not possible to access

http://www.lech-zuers.at/xxl/_lang/en/_season/at2/_area/585621/_subArea/585777/index.html

Sorry folks I cant see the situation improving tomorrow or even Sunday either as this storm is forecast to continue throughout the weekend....

Can we ever say we got "to much snow" Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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The road from Stuben is closed, and Lech and Zürs are is also out of reach, that means the Flexenpass is closed, just stay in your hotel and have some fun Very Happy To be honest, as it looks like now, Tuesday will be the next day where more lifts are going to open, tomorrow possible some, but then another storm is coming in. Fore sure the Fang lift is possible going to open, but that will be it, and of course the poma lifts down at the bottom - they are open now.
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Perhaps Monday, being the first day of an off-piste course I'm doing, will largely be devoted to transceiver practice - in the high street! Laughing
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Pedantica, well what conditions for you! At least you won't need to go off-piste to have off-piste conditions Toofy Grin Hope you have a great time, will you post updates on how you get on, on fb or here? Please Very Happy
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Pedantica, Are you on the same course as VolklAttivaS5 ? If it stays as bad as they are saying, perhaps we'll spend Monday in a pub somewhere !
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Perhaps Monday, being the first day of an off-piste course I'm doing, will largely be devoted to transceiver practice - in the high street! Laughing


To be pedantic ( sorry Happy ) that's not going to work, as you will be overrun with signals from all the other frustrated skiers sitting in cafes with all their gear on. Happy

More seriously, yes, make the most of it and get the guides to do transceiver work and other avalanche tuition. I *think* there are some safe snow shoe hikes you can do in really bad weather too; I confess I don't know for sure, when it gets that bad I tend to stay in bed.
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Perhaps Monday, being the first day of an off-piste course I'm doing, will largely be devoted to transceiver practice - in the high street! Laughing


Are you coming here with Snoworks?
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Just reading the forum here. I'm due to arrive in St.Anton from Innsbruck airport Saturday evening. Skiing from Sunday for 6 days. Not purchased my lift pass yet. What's going on there? Seems like the snow is that bad everything is closed and maybe for a few days. Really worried now. Can someone explain in simple terms to us as an outsider. I'm gutted at the moment. Worried the transfer coach may not be able to get in now, or worst still the plane at the airport.

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deerman, torbs, yep

cathy, depends on wifi access but, yes, I'll try. I feel more like Captain Oates as each hour passes... rolling eyes I find the tone of stanton's posts distinctly unsettling. wink

flashpanther, at the moment I think it's Lech and Stuben that are cut off, not St Anton.
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Well to any of you out there on the Snoworks backcountry course, see you on Monday (somewhere), and yes we always do transceiver works the first day, and you will be having half a day with me or Bruno and another half day with Lee or Mike. Tuesday should be nice with some sun, but already tomorrow will bring some clearing so they should be able to do some avalanche works and open up some of the runs.
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Torbs, are you still free tomorrow morning (if something will be open...!)?
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I find the tone of stanton's posts distinctly unsettling.

yeah, kind of gleefull.
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James the Last, Sorry booked already, hopefully more lifts are opening tomorrow.
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What's the queue time for the Nassereinbahn & Gampenbahn at the moment? Anyone know?
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Most of Austria has ground to a halt under a bit of snow.

It is pathetic.
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What's the queue time for the Nassereinbahn & Gampenbahn at the moment? Anyone know?

24hrs or so, lifts still showing as closed right now wink

http://www.stantonamarlberg.com/en/winter/service-info/live-lift-status.html
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flashpanther wrote:
What's the queue time for the Nassereinbahn & Gampenbahn at the moment? Anyone know?

24hrs or so, lifts still showing as closed right now wink

http://www.stantonamarlberg.com/en/winter/service-info/live-lift-status.html


Sorry I was going by this link. http://www.skiingaustria.co.uk/st-anton-am-arlberg/ski-lift-piste-status.html
On webcam though looks like Gampengahn is closed again now after I saw the queue on it earlier.
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