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I would have thought most people go back up to their rooms after breakfast, if only to clean their teeth. Worrying about the time it takes to put on a pair of trousers suggests a somewhat uptight approach to a holiday!!
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| pam w wrote: |
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I think he's suggesting playing loud music in public isn't a sign of poor mental health
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And you didn't read my post properly either, if you think I said it was. I suggested that doing something with the express intention of annoying random strangers is a sign of poor mental health. |
Your assumption is playing loud music is done specifically to annoy others and therefore is a sign of poor mental health. I'm saying I see absolutely no reason to believe they are doing it as an attempt to annoy others.
Like I say the most anti-social behaviour I've seen in ski resorts has always been middle aged guys, and usually suspicion of alcohol involved. While the loud music is annoying, linking it in any way to poor mental health, which is implied on your assumptions, is a bit of a leap imo.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@Perty, I don't get the whole having breakfast at 07:30-08:00 on a holiday thing! I'll take a lie-in any day! If I do go it's most definitely not in ski wear. Agree with @johnE that hotels are so damn hot. I've never worked out what the reasoning is for this.
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 It would seem my attempt at a little lighthearted observation is causing yet more overthinking on everyone’s part. Time for me to duck out and get back to the real world of representing children who are about to be adopted….
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@Perty, I'm with you on this...Once I am in resort my jeans stay in the apartment all safe and snug. It's bloody cold in the mountains therefore I wear my sallys whenever I need trousers. But then I don't do hotels, don't really get them!
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| Perty wrote: |
Goodness it's all getting a bit tetchy on this thread! FWIW I hate the skier with speaker in backpack thing-it's just inconsiderate to blast the rest us with your sound track. End of.
I was musing about this thread this morning (now that my season is over, I start posting anything that make me feet it isn't). The thing I don't get is why people don't get dressed for skiing when they get up in the morning. So-8am breakfast time, my thermals (top and bottom) and ski trousers are on ready to get out of the door as soon as I can. One friend potters to breakfast in jeans and then has to go and get changed for skiing afterwards. What's that all about?? It ups the faffing for no particular purpose.. |
It's usually far too hot in hotels to wear ski gear at breakfast! I've never understood how people can tolerate having ski gear on in the hotel 
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| tangowaggon wrote: |
| It's usually far too hot in hotels to wear ski gear at breakfast! I've never understood how people can tolerate having ski gear on in the hotel |
+1
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Plus many Alpine hotels are like infernos
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Has anyone noticed if hotel temperatures have been lowered this season ? I've stayed in self catered apartments in Austria for the past two seasons, and it's definitely felt like the temperature is down a couple of degrees this year
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| spyderjon wrote: |
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| It's usually far too hot in hotels to wear ski gear at breakfast! I've never understood how people can tolerate having ski gear on in the hotel |
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It’s outdoor clothing for negative temperatures. The only useful thing is it would wipe quite clean when you spill your yoghurt/egg/Nutella/honey etc on it…
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| viv wrote: |
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Plus many Alpine hotels are like infernos
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Has anyone noticed if hotel temperatures have been lowered this season ? I've stayed in self catered apartments in Austria for the past two seasons, and it's definitely felt like the temperature is down a couple of degrees this year |
Several places agreed to turn the heating down a degree or two at the start of winter in solidarity with Ukraine (and also because of gas shortages).
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No matter what temperature the hotels set their thermostat on, it’ll be too hot for ski trousers.
Ski wear is suppose to be warm enough outdoors. Wearing them while sitting inside for breakfast is just plain inappropriate. Either your ski trousers aren’t warm enough while you’re out, or you’re sweating while having breakfast.
It’s not “overthinking”, when it’s so obvious.
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No matter what temperature the hotels set their thermostat on, it’ll be too hot for ski trousers.
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Or, as my mother used to say "you won't feel the benefit of them when you go out".
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You know it makes sense.
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| abc wrote: |
No matter what temperature the hotels set their thermostat on, it’ll be too hot for ski trousers.
Ski wear is suppose to be warm enough outdoors. Wearing them while sitting inside for breakfast is just plain inappropriate. Either your ski trousers aren’t warm enough while you’re out, or you’re sweating while having breakfast.
It’s not “overthinking”, when it’s so obvious. |
Yet people wear ski pants on the hill in lodges and restaurants without stripping down to their thongs and pouches. Almost as if those places know how to not crank the temperature. 
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Don't know if this has been mentioned or not, and i'm not trawling through 11 pages to look!
People skiing needlessly close to you when you're stopped. This happened so many times in Engelberg last week during our exam.
We'd be stopped towards the side of a piste, about to do an assessed run or filmed run, and people would ski in the 2m's between us and the edge of the piste. We also had occasions where people carved past within 1ft of our skis (you could see the lines in the snow to know it was that close)
Why, when there's 95% of the piste empty!?v 
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Perty wrote: |
| The thing I don't get is why people don't get dressed for skiing when they get up in the morning. |
Mrs Golf andI always do. Bit Downton Abbey to change for every event in the day, innit? I've never felt overheated at breakfast!
CG
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Some people are a fairly unpleasant sight at breakfast in their long johns. I wouldn't inflict myself on fellow diners in long johns. It's one of the benefits of having your own place - long johns acceptable!
Which reminds me that one of the things I don't get is whanging up the heating so high that you can sit round in shorts and vest tops in the evenings. I was once called up, at 9pm on a VERY cold night, to an apartment which was being leaked on from the apartment above. Both were owned by friends for whom I sometimes did cleaning and I'd had a phone call from one of them to go and investigate. . It really was incredibly cold, and as it happened I had other friends dining with me - including one who is very handy at all kinds of DIY. He and I dressed up in all our layers to fight our way up to the top of the development. We were stunned to find both apartments full of people, shiny red from hot showers, with the heating roaring away, all dressed in shorts and vest tops. As we were both apartment-owners, and aware of the cost of the heating, we were shocked. But even if you're not paying for the heating - why??????
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I took the view this winter that ski apartments are a lot better insulated than my one in the UK so it made sense to ski as many weeks as possible. Didn't turn on the heating at all in the one I was in last week in Val Thorens, it felt warm enough without. Still wasn't wearing ski clothes for breakfast though.
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| abc wrote: |
No matter what temperature the hotels set their thermostat on, it’ll be too hot for ski trousers.
Ski wear is suppose to be warm enough outdoors. Wearing them while sitting inside for breakfast is just plain inappropriate. Either your ski trousers aren’t warm enough while you’re out, or you’re sweating while having breakfast.
It’s not “overthinking”, when it’s so obvious. |
Flaw in your logic! Many of us don't feel the cold in our legs very much so often ski in just thermals and shells - this combination is seldom too warm indoors if you aren't wearing much on top.
Totally get the point with very warm insulated ski pants though
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@rjs,
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Still wasn't wearing ski clothes for breakfast though.
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I think there's a happy medium between long johns and full ski kit. I come down to breakfast in my ski pants - they're just as easy to put on as jeans - so my lower half is fairly ready for skiing and, on my top half, wearing as many of my base layers as the temperature of the breakfast room demands, often just one. I can cope with a warm bum at breakfast.
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| pam w wrote: |
Some people are a fairly unpleasant sight at breakfast in their long johns. I wouldn't inflict myself on fellow diners in long johns. It's one of the benefits of having your own place - long johns acceptable!
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This is my feeling. If I know everyone in the group I'll make coffee and breakfast in my base layers; if I'm skiing with people I don't know so well or in a hotel or similar, I'll put on trousers and a t-shirt. I suspect my fear that others will judge or disapprove me is stronger than the likelihood of actually offending anyone!
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Flaw in your logic! Many of us don't feel the cold in our legs very much so often ski in just thermals and shells - this combination is seldom too warm indoors if you aren't wearing much on top.
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For what it's worth, I find a shell over thermals far too warm at breakfast, even in a place that's not overheated.
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Clearly you "breakfast in ski pants" brigade never had a cool 80s onesie or bib style salopettes.
There is one really important exercise that needs completing between the caffeine and carb hit of breakfast and heading out into the wild.
This is undertaken in a small room, and requires that trousers and underwear are not inhibiting the procedure.
Experience has taught me that shorts, joggers or jeans along with boxers make this much easier than in a Thinsulate onesie or salopettes and thermals.
I am very happy to spend 30 seconds changing from my jeans for my ski pants once the morning movement is complete.
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@OuatteDePhoque, yes, there is that. Referred to by some of us as "cleaning our teeth". 30 seconds is a generous time allowance for taking jeans off and putting ski pants on.
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@OuatteDePhoque,
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Clearly you "breakfast in ski pants" brigade never had a cool 80s onesie or bib style salopettes
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Haha, I did have, consecutively, two beloved onesies and you're right, I didn't wear them for breakfast!
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Too easy to drop messy crumbs - on an outfit unlikely to be washed during the week. Or maybe even the season!!
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My son used to slouch hungover round the breakfast room in a catered chalet, with his onesie on but peeled down to the waist. He looked like he wouldn't be able to get out of his own way for the rest of the day - but once out on the snow he was transformed.
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I don’t get it when people who dress in their ski gear for breakfast take longer to get ready than those who wear normal clothes for breakfast then get changed in to their ski gear.
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You know it makes sense.
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| Extremophile wrote: |
| I don’t get it when people who dress in their ski gear for breakfast take longer to get ready than those who wear normal clothes for breakfast then get changed in to their ski gear. |
Maybe it's all the time they take getting back out of their ski gear in order to 'clean their teeth'.
Last edited by You know it makes sense. on Mon 24-04-23 14:38; edited 1 time in total
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@Extremophile, Because it takes them 4 times longer to "Clean their Teeth" due to their ill-conceived choice of attire.
Not sure if there's causality, but certain correlation with a persons innate Faff-Factor.
Faffers faff - its what they do.
So a self identifying faffer might very well adorn ski-gear for breakfast thinking that this will mean there is less to faff over later, but nevertheless the rest of the day will be spent faffing over different things thus retarding their propensity to be ready or do anything in an expedient fashion.
So I think the Salopette Simon is a symptom (marker / indicator) of a heightened capacity for faffing rather than being causal.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| I don’t get it when people who dress in their ski gear for breakfast take longer to get ready than those who wear normal clothes for breakfast then get changed in to their ski gear. |
Your evidence for this? Speaking personally, I take exactly as long as I need to be punctual for the meeting with my ski buddies which has been arranged. Admittedly I am a bit OCD and organize ALL my ski gear the night before, so I never have to search for anything, just put it on or pick it up before leaving the room.
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@OuatteDePhoque,
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Because it takes them 4 times longer to "Clean their Teeth" due to their ill-conceived choice of attire.
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That is, I admit, highly plausible.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Hurtle wrote: |
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| I don’t get it when people who dress in their ski gear for breakfast take longer to get ready than those who wear normal clothes for breakfast then get changed in to their ski gear. |
Your evidence for this? Speaking personally, I take exactly as long as I need to be punctual for the meeting with my ski buddies which has been arranged. Admittedly I am a bit OCD and organize ALL my ski gear the night before, so I never have to search for anything, just put it on or pick it up before leaving the room. |
Evidence? What is this? A peer review paper?! Crikey!
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| OuatteDePhoque wrote: |
@Extremophile, Because it takes them 4 times longer to "Clean their Teeth" due to their ill-conceived choice of attire.
Not sure if there's causality, but certain correlation with a persons innate Faff-Factor.
Faffers faff - its what they do.
So a self identifying faffer might very well adorn ski-gear for breakfast thinking that this will mean there is less to faff over later, but nevertheless the rest of the day will be spent faffing over different things thus retarding their propensity to be ready or do anything in an expedient fashion.
So I think the Salopette Simon is a symptom (marker / indicator) of a heightened capacity for faffing rather than being causal. |
Perfectly described.
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Has anyone mentioned double-dipping the crudités yet? Honestly, savages....
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| OuatteDePhoque wrote: |
| Faffers faff - its what they do. |
This^
I always try to encourage one of my ski buddies to be on a chair two or three ahead of the rest of us - he has to take his gloves off and fanny around with his boot clips at the top of every lift so being on a prior chair saves a few seconds. Sometimes he tries to reduce the faff time by taking off the gloves whilst on the chair to be ready for the clipping up thing. Has been known to drop the glove from the chair generating extra faff.
I'm not OCD at all but how tricky is it to get your gear ready (as per Hurtle). At end of day put boots in boot bag, put gloves in helmet, make any changes needed to contents of backpack. In the morning get up, have breakfast, "clean teeth", put on rest of ski gear, pick up boot bag, helmet, backpack, go skiing.
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@DJL, exactly. But I guess one just is a faffer, or not. I do faff a bit, but will simply build enough faff time into my pre-ski schedule. When on the mountain, I try to limit my faffing to coffee/lunch stops. (As my boots are getting a bit old, I now find myself having to fiddle with the clips more than I would like, having been accustomed for years to not touching them between the beginning and the end of each day). Again, when everyone has stopped, I aim to timetable my faffing to be ready when everyone else is.
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| OuatteDePhoque wrote: |
| Faffers faff - its what they do. |
I totally “get” that. 
So long as they show up at the appointed time outside.
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Skitouring will soon show up who are the faffers. Eventually, our team evolved a system of faff cards: you could play one, and only one, each day. If you wanted to do any more faffing you had to wait for someone else to play theirs.
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| altis wrote: |
| Skitouring will soon show up who are the faffers. Eventually, our team evolved a system of faff cards: you could play one, and only one, each day. If you wanted to do any more faffing you had to wait for someone else to play theirs. |
What a brilliant idea!
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