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Portes du Soleil 2021/2022 - Avoriaz/Morzine/Les Gets/Chatel/Swiss Side etc.

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@winterstickboarder, in general, it's worth getting the PdS pass. Unless you are only a beginner.
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under a new name wrote:
@winterstickboarder, in general, it's worth getting the PdS pass. Unless you are only a beginner.


Thanks! Yeah bit worried about how quickly we could cover the Morzine/Les Gets pistes. Do you know if you can upgrade to PdS just for one day for example?
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I ski 90% of each season in LG....year after year....as long as the snow is good I'm happy

While Avoriaz area is higher, bigger, with longer reds and more off piste of course....it is also a lot busier, gets tracked out way quicker, it's rocky underneath, tends to have a lot more moguls or bumpy pistes, less charming, much worse viz when snowing than below treeline and the food options are definitely not as good. Oh and it's a lot more dangerous in my view....apart from busier / faster pistes, when the viz is bad there you have to very careful off piste if you don't know the terrain well.....big drops / cliffs around. Below the treeline is safer in my view, and can be just as much fun. But yeah understand that lot's of people enjoy clocking up mileage and travelling to new runs each day, PdS is great for that.

As for difficulty of terrain.....entirely down to how fast you travel, your skills and lines.....

You can upgrade any day you want, think it's just the difference between normal single day prices to pay
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Thanks so much for the detailed response! Think we will stick with Morzine and see what the weather does Smile just looking forward to getting back to it having missed out last season!
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Whilst Avoriaz can get bumpy pretty quickly due to the numbers, the Swiss side is normally fantastic and empty!
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Hi quick question for anyone who is currently in or around Avoriaz at the moment. We have just spent the week skiing in Les Gets / Morzinne and were hoping to spend some time skiing over in Avoriaz tomorrow with a quick pop into Switzerland just to say we'd done it. I notice on the PDS ski map app that a few lifts like Mosettes are currently closed - is this normal? Is there a problem? We are intermediate skiers and aware that at the end of the week we are tired so had planned a route on blues to just have a bit of a cruise . Any info on lift status or advice on different routes welcomed.
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@jillyg80, the new Cases lift that runs beside it will bring you close to the border. Alternatively take Choucas from Fornet side to top of Swiss wall and ski back down the French side. Or take the scenic route via Lindarets - plaine dranse - Chatel, reds and blues.

Best option probably Cases if want blues only, depends where you start….Choucas from Prodains or Cases from Ardent
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All the links were closed out of Avoriaz on Thursday, because of the wind. Hoping it’s ok today
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Does anyone know of anywhere in Morzine that we could get breakfast at say 8am on a Saturday? We will be arriving before the previous people are out of our chalet and don't want to get in their way while they are clearing up and leaving. It's a private chalet, so it isn't a commercial changeover, but all the same, it's not really fair!
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Looks like a good snow forecast for this week!!
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Any boots on the ground in the PDS area available to give a snow update? Lots of snow was forecasted for yesterday and overnight.
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@karin, is it your own chalet? Anyhoo, maybe Beanies?
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Karin - I'd recommend Le Colibri. They open at 8am and do good breakfast's. Located very close to the Pleney lifts, if you need to go and buy lift passes as well.
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@Roscoe, 15-20cm light and fluffy off piste. Now sunny.
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winterstickboarder wrote:
Thanks! Yeah bit worried about how quickly we could cover the Morzine/Les Gets pistes. Do you know if you can upgrade to PdS just for one day for example?


You can't get a 1 day 'upgrade' as such, but you can just walk up to the lift pass office (or even automatic vending machines outside) and buy a 1-day PdS pass.

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Does anyone know of anywhere in Morzine that we could get breakfast at say 8am on a Saturday? We will be arriving before the previous people are out of our chalet and don't want to get in their way while they are clearing up and leaving. It's a private chalet, so it isn't a commercial changeover, but all the same, it's not really fair!


Never used them and don't know opening times but often walk past the little place just up from the petrol station roundabout, opposite the bakery. They always seem to have a sign out advertising "Full English Breakfasts". You can even see it on Google Street View Smile (though sadly not the name of the place).

A little more Google staking gives us La P'tite Pause - open from 8am till 6pm 7 days a week.


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polo wrote:
@Roscoe, 15-20cm light and fluffy off piste. Now sunny.


Sounds like a perfect day for it! Lets hope the snow continues to be good for the next few weeks!
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More like 25-30cm at 1700m, looking towards Nyon from Chamossiere freeride

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More like 25-30cm at 1700m, looking towards Nyon from Chamossiere freeride



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I've done a quick video....to some orchestral reggae Cool

First run under Nauchet was tracked early so we took a nice itinerary from back of Ranfoilly over to bottom of Chamosiere, then over to the freeride zone
Tried Nyon but was closed most of the morning for avi clearance


http://youtube.com/v/XvU58Zv1_l0
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polo wrote:
I've done a quick video....to some orchestral reggae Cool

First run under Nauchet was tracked early so we took a nice itinerary from back of Ranfoilly over to bottom of Chamosiere, then over to the freeride zone
Tried Nyon but was closed most of the morning for avi clearance


http://youtube.com/v/XvU58Zv1_l0


Wow!! Looks fantastic!!
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@polo, Nice vid! I was Daddy Daycare... Confused snowHead
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@under a new name, Not my own chalet, belongs to my aunt, but we've been going regularly for over 20 years.
@under a new name, @doddsie, @Mjit, thanks for the suggestions. Sounds like it won't be a problem at all.
Getting really excited now Smile
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@shep, day care gets better with age as roles reverse Very Happy

I am in a much better place when following my 16yr old around. It’s like having a personal guide as he spends so much time with his ESF off piste group.

Problem is I’m too slow for him so inevitably gets bored and goes off with a mate, leaving me in danger. There are some nasty cliffs and dead ends between Chamossiere black and freeride
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@karin, ah, I see. Anyway, lots of options, at least if all you want is a croissant Happy
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Quick question for those in the know regarding Morzine.

Is there a way of joining Le Lievre Blue from the Choucas blue run? Then to the Retour des nants blue home?

My plan was to ski from top to bottom (potentially with some nervous beginners/intermediates) from Chamossiere. I know the first part, les arbis, will be a red run but hoping thats its wide and not too bad for them?
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Roscoe - Yes it is possible, but needs quite fast conditions and is not for beginners. Also Les Arbis is a hard and difficult red, also very long and not for beginners.
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You're better off going from the top of Ranfoilly, you can then follow an easy blue path all the way down, Gentiane into Choucas. But I'd advise going up Troncs and continuing from there and not trying to link Choucas and Le Lievre.
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@doddsie, Thanks. I'm in Morzine for a week with intermediates/advanced skier's with the beginners joining us over the weekend. We can do the run from Chamossiere (inc Les Arbis) during the week and then bring the beginners down from the Ranfoilly at the weekend. This will the beginners 3rd time in Les Gets/Morzine so that run should suit them.
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@doddsie, Also, I've heard of a 12km full blue route in Morzine/Les Gets, is it the route above?
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@Roscoe, As Doddsie says, Troncs is the route for your intermediots ( wink ). But the little skate up (a minute or so) from the bottom of the Troncs lift to the Joux Plaine road and onto Le Lievre is quite fun and a useful hack if Troncs is busy/closed.

Adding piste lengths as given on the interactive map https://www.portesdusoleil.com/destination/plan-des-pistes/plan-interactif.html gives around 8km for the Ranfoilly-Morzine hack as described. I can't imagine there's a longer piste-ski in M/LG. Mossette to Ardent comes out to around 10k, although I've heard people saying it's 12. Maybe it depends how much traversing you do?! Twisted Evil
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How flat is the Retour des Nants? Much skating for a boarder?
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@shep, I was always told Mossettes to Ardent was 14kms Embarassed
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@under a new name, Well it's all rather academic anyway. Who knows how they calculate those piste-lengths. Let's just say it's further than the local chip-shop. Especially for you and I! wink
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@shep, quite!
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How flat is the Retour des Nants? Much skating for a boarder?

You'll need to walk through the tunnel but from about 20m the other side there's enough gradient to make it down the the base of the Pleney so long as you don't get too many random zig-zagging / poleing skiers en route.
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winterstickboarder wrote:
How flat is the Retour des Nants? Much skating for a boarder?

As a halfway decent skier Retour de Nants is my least favourite piste in the whole of the PDS. When it has good snow on it it is flat and slow, and when it hasn't it's awful.
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I'll be first to admit the minute the kids say they want to downlift on the bubble rather than do either of the blue runs I'm a happy man Very Happy
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We're out in Morzine from Saturday, but one of our group has managed to drop a brick on her big toe and break it. She can't get her foot into a shoe, let alone her snowboard boot (thought they were supposed to be nice soft things compared to ski boots...?), so she's bailing on the trip.
Question is, can she get a refund on her lift pass that she has already bought online? I've tried reading details on the Ski Morzine site, and it seems to say no refunds, but my french isn't good enough to know whether I've read that right. Can anyone shed any light, please?
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The staff in the lift pass office are usually very helpful and will be able to understand an English email so drop them a line explaining the situation and asking if it's possile to get either a refund or credit to the ski pass account for next year.

Other option is to look at travel insurance and see if she can claim there.
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karin wrote:
We're out in Morzine from Saturday, but one of our group has managed to drop a brick on her big toe and break it. She can't get her foot into a shoe, let alone her snowboard boot (thought they were supposed to be nice soft things compared to ski boots...?), so she's bailing on the trip.
Question is, can she get a refund on her lift pass that she has already bought online? I've tried reading details on the Ski Morzine site, and it seems to say no refunds, but my french isn't good enough to know whether I've read that right. Can anyone shed any light, please?


Is there a chance you could sell it while in resort? Not wanting to make you a tout, but if you offer it to someone at face value, what's the harm? It may have a name on but when was the last time a name on a ski lift pass was checked against its user?
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