 Poster: A snowHead
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Does look like winter could well be on the way.
Trees are golden and needles will fall and low temps in the valley along with white stuff, which allthough will not hang around for long it should start to accumulate at altitude hopefully.
First time ever I'm going out mid Nov so will be interesting to see the start, though judging by the various models I might well miss the first snow fall.
Hope to be setting up a Cam at the Col du Lautaret at a friends Gite as well !
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| I’d be astonished if any other than the highest resorts start to run cannons. Wayyyy too risky that it turns mild. |
Dorfgastein/Grossarl have had their cannons running for the last few days. On the higher north and east facing slopes.
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Some pretty colours there...
We're due a good start to the season - fingers crossed!
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Dont jinx it!
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Just like last year!
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@zzz, dammit ain’t that the truth. Weather. Same every year. Day in. Day out.
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Ssshhhh. Don't talk about it! The weather will listen. Won't it? Oh sh*t.
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@nozawaonsen,
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| @zzz, dammit ain’t that the truth. Weather. Same every year. Day in. Day out. |
Noza, don't be so facetious. You have to admit that it's pretty spooky. This type of weather seems to happen every November and yet no one can provide a plausible explanation. #crazyweatherCIA/Whitegoldconspiracy.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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ECM has further cold weather pushing down next weekend.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Like the colours in the Ötztal!
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Time for a bit of a glance at the Met Office Contingency Planners view. They opt for a westerly (+NAO) scenario overall (which is being picked up by a number of long range models), but note that in contrast some of the drivers such as La Niña and QBO increase the possibility of -NAO.
"Sea surface temperatures in the tropical Central and Eastern Pacific have now fallen close to La Niña thresholds. Long-range prediction systems indicate this cooling is very likely to continue in the coming weeks, leading to a full La Niña event over the next few months. La Niña slightly increases the chances of blocking patterns over the North Atlantic and Europe in late autumn and early winter, leading to increased chances of colder-than-average conditions.
The Quasi-Biennial Oscillation (QBO), an oscillation of the equatorial winds in the stratosphere, is in an easterly phase. The QBO is linked to conditions over Western Europe during late autumn and early winter through an influence on the phase of the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) at the surface. An easterly phase of the QBO tends to moderately increase the chances of a negative phase of the NAO, which in turn increases the chances of below-average temperatures.
Sea surface temperatures in the North Atlantic are generally above average, consistent with the current high levels of warmth globally. West of the UK, however, temperatures are slightly below average. Nevertheless, warmth beneath the ocean surface, which is expected to have an increasing influence on surface conditions as the period progresses, favours higher-than-normal temperatures for the time of year.
For November-December-January as a whole, long-range forecast systems generally show an increased chance of westerly air flow over the UK, although some show more likelihood of high-pressure patterns over the North Atlantic implying a greater likelihood of northerly or north-westerly winds. Overall, the outlook shows increased chances of above-average temperatures in the 3-month period (see figure T2). Despite this, the risk of colder-than-normal conditions remains a significant possibility, with some of the drivers of UK winter weather, such as La Niña and the QBO, favouring weather patterns associated with colder-than-normal weather."
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You know it makes sense.
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It seems a shame to me that all they really focus on as the result of their view is temperatures.
Temperatures don't really mean that much for us as skiers. In recent years the problems haven't been the temperature, more the limited amount of precipitation we get up in the mountains.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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TaDa. Of course sustained high pressure over the continent can hold the Atlantic at bay as we saw last December.
Autumn is a season when it is usual for Atlantic depressions to become more intense. These systems bring large amounts of moisture, often making it one of the stormiest and wettest parts of the year (see figure P1).
As discussed in the temperature section, signals from the Met Office long-range prediction system and other systems from prediction centres around the world broadly show an increased likelihood of westerly or cyclonic weather patterns during the outlook period. Some systems suggest a greater likelihood of high-pressure patterns over the North Atlantic Ocean, however, and there are global factors that favour weather patterns bringing colder and drier weather (see temperature section). Overall, the outlook for November-December- January shows slightly increased chances of above-average rainfall compared to normal (see figure P2). The outlook also implies that the risk of impacts from high rainfall and strong winds is moderately greater than usual. Despite this, the likelihood of dry conditions, of concern for some parts of the UK following last winter’s low rainfall, remains only slightly less than normal.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Ha. Saving the best bit for last. I'll take this as a positive outlook.
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Overall, the outlook for November-December- January shows slightly increased chances of above-average rainfall compared to normal
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I think that for the last few seasons we have had reasonable falls in November followed by dry Decembers as high pressure seems to have blocked off clouds and stuff.
This has been ok for the high resorts like Val Thorens as snow pretty much from around now is likely to stick around.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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ECM continues to back the idea of colder weather pushing in from 11/12 November. GFS not convinced for now.
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Incoming ❄️❄️❄️
Love the anticipation of the first snow...
Here’s to a great 2017/2018 season!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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so is going to fecking snow?
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Extract from this evening’s SLF weather outlook.
https://www.slf.ch/en/avalanche-bulletin-and-snow-situation.html
”Weather outlook through Sunday, 5 November
On Saturday night in southern regions, precipitation is expected to set in. During the day on Sunday, snowfall will set in also in northern regions. The snowfall level will be at 2000 m on Saturday night. During the daytime on Sunday, the snowfall level will first descend towards 1000 m in northern regions, subsequently during the afternoon also in southern regions.
By Sunday evening, the following amounts of fresh snow are anticipated above approximately 2200 m:
- Main Alpine Ridge from Lukmanier Pass as far as the Bernina, remaining parts of the central sector of the southern flank of the Alps: 60 to 80 cm;
- remaining parts of the Main Alpine Ridge from Monte Rosa as far as Val Müstair, as well as the bordering regions immediately north of the Main Alpine Ridge: 40 to 60 cm;
- northern part of the Alpine Ridge not including the Gotthard region, remaining parts of southern Valais, remaining parts of Grisons: 20 to 40 cm; in other regions, less.
On Saturday night, a strong to storm-strength southerly wind will be blowing. During the course of the day on Sunday, the wind will first shift to westerly, subsequently it will slacken off significantly. As evening approaches, a moderate to strong-velocity northerly wind is expected to arise, whose reach will extend down into the valleys as a northerly foehn wind.
Outlook
On Sunday night, the precipitation will come to an end in southern regions. In northern regions it will continue to snow. Over widespread areas on the northern flank of the Alps and in northern Grisons, 20 to 30 cm of fresh snow is anticipated by Monday evening. The snowfall level is expected to descend down towards 800 m.
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Not quite yet the forecast 50-100 cms round here...
Early days
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@under a new name, who forecast that??
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Zermatt snow has begun to arrive, at Riffleberg and above. Due to move down to village level later. Plan Maison in cervinia has taken a good pasting 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@nozawaonsen,  snow-notquiteforecast
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You know it makes sense.
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Nothing to see here... please move along. There will be no snow!! Only sunshine, occasional rain and mild temperatures. Stop wanting cold and snowy weather!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Woke up to a few centimeters of snow at my place this morning in Central Oregon. Going to go for a hike at Mt Bachelor and make a few turns in the 20+cm of fresh that fell over night. Timberline and Mt Hood Meadows received about 12cm. Had snowed off and on in Bend, OR on Friday, with about 8cm in the Alpine. Just about 30cm has fallen over the past few days across the Cascades. But Mt Baker received over 40cm yesterday. Crystal Mountain received 15cm. Starting to look like a harbinger of more good things to come.
Cheers!
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Poster: A snowHead
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Weather review and outlook for Swiss Alps from SLF
”Weather review to Sunday, 5 November
On Saturday night it began to snow in southern regions. During the day on Sunday, precipitation set in, coming from the west, in northern regions as well. The snowfall level initially lay at 2200 m, subsequently on Sunday afternoon descended down towards 1500 m.
Between Saturday evening and Sunday midday, the following amounts of fresh snow were registered above approximately 2200 m:
- Main Alpine Ridge from the Simplon region to the Bernina Pass and southwards therefrom: 30 to 50 cm;
- remaining parts of the Valais sector of the Main Alpine Ridge: 20 to 30 cm;
- elsewhere, 10 to 20 cm.
During Saturday night, winds were blowing at moderate to strong velocity from southerly directions. During the daytime on Sunday, winds shifted to northerly and were blowing at light to moderate strength.
Weather outlook through Monday, 6 November
On Sunday night the precipitation will come to an end in southern regions. In northern regions it will continue to snow until the latter part of Monday afternoon. The snowfall level there will be at approximately 800 m.
By Monday evening, the following amounts of fresh snow are anticipated above approximately 2200 m:
- northern flank of the Alps, Main Alpine Ridge from Oberalp Pass into Val Müstair, Engadine, Prättigau: 20 to 40 cm;
- Valais, remaining parts of Grisons: 10 to 20 cm;
- central sector of the southern flank of the Alps, only a few centimeters.
On Sunday night, a moderate to strong-velocity northerly wind will be blowing which will extend down into the valleys as northerly foehn wind. During the course of the day on Monday, the wind will shift to easterly and slacken off somewhat in the mountains.”
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Fairly belting down on the webcams
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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A mix of rain and sleet in Zermatt village.
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Pretty nuts at Stubai!
Edit: Not sure why photos hosted on FB are coming out so big now. Something must have changed as they used to be ok?
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On the Alps a little further snow showers in northern Alps mid week and further drop in temperatures accompanied by snowfall around 12 November. Out into FI and the 17/18 November has been cropping up a bit, but is a fair way out.
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Euro Resorts need to look at opening in November....
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