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downhillalltheway, when I checked the photos on the website attempt the url seems to show that they are on Picasaweb somewhere, but are private.
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| Richard_Sideways wrote: |
| I'm certain I've seen those pictures on a website for a chalet in Courchevel or Verbier. The magazines on the table on the Contact page are also all French magazines !!! I'm afraid this is a complete scam and I don't think this chalet even exists in St Anton. I'd phone the police as has been suggested. |
Seems to be a property called Le Rocher in Val D'Isere. http://www.oxfordski.com/properties/lerocher
Found that by using the picture of the cow sofa to do a google image search. Seems pretty definitive evidence, sorry.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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clairepow, wow so sorry all this has happened to you. Sounds like a total nightmare! I hope you find a way to get your money back, or at least get some justice served to this guy!
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clairepow, so you have his bank details? Contact his bank perhaps?
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Yeah I've just done some digging myself, and if you type in ski chalet pool into google. It returns the picture of the pool and turns out to be...
http://chaletlerocher.com/#view=8;lang=en_US
He's used loads of the photos from Chalet Le Rocher's gallery.
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blawford, it does look that way.
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| Tordi wrote: |
| clairepow, wow so sorry all this has happened to you. Sounds like a total nightmare! I hope you find a way to get your money back, or at least get some justice served to this guy! |
+1 What a horror story! 
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clairepow, Good luck resolving this, looks like a definite scam. Have you thought about making contact with either or all of the other properties owners? I know the place with the sloping curved roof is kosher, whether the inside photos reflect the outside is unknown, but you'd be able to get hold of the owners there following done detective work, via the tourist office (who all speak perfect English), suggest you call that chalet place and get them on the case....you never know that could be Carlos' hideout locally? Also I'd definitely suggest UK police (and BBC watchdog it's a painful event but a sexy story and you never know?!!)
Good luck anyway.
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Yeah, sorry we've seemed to have confirmed the worst Clairepow.
Any hope your losses could be covered under holiday, home or personal insurance?
You may be able to find out what to do now here...
http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/
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| Mr Piehole wrote: |
| clairepow, so you have his bank details? Contact his bank perhaps? |
Yes tried that too by phone & email but it's a Spanish bank!! They don't seem to answer either!!! Our bank have also chased them several times for the money but they just say they have been unable to contact their client. Just think they don't care.
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clairepow, I have found a Twitter account or two belonging to ChaletPro, I've tweeted them.
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| clairepow wrote: |
| Mr Piehole wrote: |
| clairepow, so you have his bank details? Contact his bank perhaps? |
Yes tried that too by phone & email but it's a Spanish bank!! They don't seem to answer either!!! |
Don't phone them between the hours of 10am and 4pm, or between 5pm and 9:30am. That's when the Spanish are sleeping.
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Carlos Bo Marin from Valencia does exist as per the adverts and is on Facebook. If he was stupid enough to use his real name. Was the bank account in that name?
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You know it makes sense.
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clairepow, so sorry to hear this. Hope you do manage to get your money back, what a nightmare
Mods - is it worth moving this thread to The Piste where it can be picked up on google searches and could be found by others? Chalets & Apartments you have to be logged in to see it
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Colin B, yes I've just found him on there too
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Colin B wrote: |
| Carlos Bo Marin from Valencia does exist as per the adverts and is on Facebook. If he was stupid enough to use his real name. Was the bank account in that name? |
Yes I looked him up & have considered stalking him from this!! But I don't think this is his real name & am sure that he opened the bank account with false details.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| cathy wrote: |
clairepow, so sorry to hear this. Hope you do manage to get your money back, what a nightmare
Mods - is it worth moving this thread to The Piste where it can be picked up on google searches and could be found by others? Chalets & Apartments you have to be logged in to see it |
How does this happen - do I do it - or someone else?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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clairepow, I've done it for you.
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| clairepow wrote: |
| Colin B wrote: |
| Carlos Bo Marin from Valencia does exist as per the adverts and is on Facebook. If he was stupid enough to use his real name. Was the bank account in that name? |
Yes I looked him up & have considered stalking him from this!! But I don't think this is his real name & am sure that he opened the bank account with false details. |
Yeah careful with that in case it's an identity theft job as well.
"Bo Marin" is a coincidental choice of name too, given that there's a chalet Marin in Grand Bornand (affectionately known as Grand 'Bo' to locals).
If you've got his email address, you could always just sign him up to absolutely loads and loads and loads of junk mailing lists and scat porn sites. That's what I'd do.
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Wow guys thanks ever so much for all your help & comments. You have helped to make me feel a tad better, I only wish to god that I had spoken to you all on this forum BEFORE i booked the bloomin chalet!!!!
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If you google Carlos Bo Marin this thread is now 3rd from top already!!
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I don't understand why your bank is not pursuing this through the details they transferred the money to. They have an obligation to you as a customer to try and assist. Worth speaking to consumer rights organisations, start with Moneysavingexpert and similar - if they pick up a story that the media might pick up on, your bank might find themselves under some pressure to be more useful.
The police might also find they get further with the bank, if that is the case they may be able to get info that you can't. Keep badgering, this is a lot of money for an individual to be defrauded of.
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| Colin B wrote: |
| If you google Carlos Bo Marin this thread is now 3rd from top already!! |
What normally happens next in these kinds of circumstances, is that the chalet owner / tour operator / whatever in question will now sign up to snowHeads, offer a flimsy excuse about what happened, sideload a metric ton of smarmy advertising for themselves into the deal, and be copiously praised and kissed up to by everyone shortly afterwards.
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| Mr Piehole wrote: |
| Colin B wrote: |
| If you google Carlos Bo Marin this thread is now 3rd from top already!! |
What normally happens next in these kinds of circumstances, is that the chalet owner / tour operator / whatever in question will now sign up to snowHeads, offer a flimsy excuse about what happened, sideload a metric ton of smarmy advertising for themselves into the deal, and be copiously praised and kissed up to by everyone shortly afterwards apart from Mr Piehole, the vagrant of justice. |
Did you ever get your tenner from Simon Cross?
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| Markymark29 wrote: |
| clairepow, Good luck resolving this, looks like a definite scam. Have you thought about making contact with either or all of the other properties owners? |
If you mean the other properties listed under St Anton chalets, they're kosher. They are some of the chalets that Ski Val run, strangely not all of them tho...
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You know it makes sense.
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Last Name Mr. CARLOS Bo Marin
Address Calle de Juan de Celaya 24 - 17
Town 46017 VALENCIA
Country Spain
This was the address given on one of his listings if it's of any use to you. Maybe someone pointed it out already.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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This is probably his facebook page as well - the location is listed as valencia which matches the above address, and there is only one carlos bo marin on fbook.
http://www.facebook.com/carlitos6923
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monkey, that's the address given in all his listings, so he's at least consistent.
If you Google Street View it, it's a shabby flat above a hairdressers. Doesn't look like the kind of gaff owned by a man who owns exclusive ski chalets and villas all over Europe. Then again, we've established it might be identity theft and possibly bogus details, so we might be looking at the address of another victim.
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This thread shows beautifully the wonders of Snowheads.
And I do hope you get your money back and Carlos B M gets his back bottom kicked.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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This thread shows beautifully the wonders of Snowheads.
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Absolutely! This thread is awesome!
& this guy is toast!!!!
Go snowheads
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| jellylegs wrote: |
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This thread shows beautifully the wonders of Snowheads.
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Absolutely! This thread is awesome!
& this guy is toast!!!!
Go snowheads |
Pfft on TGR someone would already be on his way round with a baseball bat and a hungry malamute  And his buddy with a gopro to capture Carlos cacking da kecka.
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fatbob, nah pretty sure on TGR the OP would have simply been called a retard by everybody and that would have pretty much been it...
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bobmcstuff, That as well plus aforesaid keyboard hardman-ing. When they do get it together they do pull off fantastic 411 scam style retributions though.
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Gutted for you. Its quite easy to see why you wanted to book this chalet, looks stunning on those pictures, even though its a chalet in France!!! Really hope you get your money back somehow. This kind of reminds me of when i was in the 3V in February earlier this year. The chalet we stayed in was a complete shambles, and loads of families had been conned/ripped off. I made an entire thread on it and it even made national news --->>>. http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=86986
What this guy did was have a PO box as the address. Thankfully i got really lucky, and things went tits up during our holiday, then for the guests who arrived as we were leaving.
Good luck, keep us posted.
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I knew I'd seen those photo's. I looked on the Oxford Ski website when I was looking for places for 10 of us in Val D'Isere or Chamonix. It was such a distinctive chalet.
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Never mind contacting his bank, I'd start with the police (or possibly start a thread on TGR to solicit a hungry malamute depending on which you feel would be more effective).
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