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Probably better to buy. I haven't done it yet but I did hire once in Whistler when the "Extremely Canadian" guide asked me to. It wasn't a good fit and kept shifting when I went over bumps etc, so I had to give up and leave it in a restaurant till the end of the day.
If I skied on piste I would certainly have bought one by now. I did bang my head rather hard two years ago, falling on a hard piste once, but otherwise any slight head bang or jolt has affected my neck - which a helmet would, if anything, probably make worse.
But apart from a tendency to overheat easily, my real problem with helmets is baggage. I have too much already because I have to take a big roll of memory foam for the bed (for my bad back). That and boots and shovel and probe and backpack and skins and harness and rope etc etc. There is hardly any weight or space left for clothes. I suppose I could at least leave out the travel iron and wax and file and get my skis serviced at a shop. Wouldn't make much difference though.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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jbob, Total newbies... they haven't even got twin tips so can't be hard core 
Looks fantastic terrain that... wouldn't even dream of stepping over those rocks without an axe.
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| dobby wrote: |
In relation to other sports, cannot stand keeping wicket with one on (cannot see zip).
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Worst Idea ever, I've seen (and experienced) some nasty injuries from not wearing a helmet keeping wicket.
I'd say get a helmet for skiing, if you are even slightly concerned about not wearing one, put your mind at ease and "lid up"
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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It's best to buy, the hire helmets are normally knackered and it can be cheaper to buy.
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| dobby wrote: |
| Anyone with experience of going from non-wearing to wearing? |
Just come back from my first ski trip with a Helmet. I did not even notice I was wearing it. I had considered getting one for a while now as I have a family and dont want to end up with any horrific head injuries. I fully recomend getting one. There were 2 others with first time helemts in our group and they loved them too.
If you spend a bit of money, you can get a good helmet that keeps you safe, keeps your head warm or cool dependent on temperature (adjustable vents), and best of all, I got one with built in head phone to plug into my ipod. So helmet = tunes+safety+warmth+goggle holder
All in all, I am now converted.
Cheers
Smag
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jbob, respect.
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| snowball wrote: |
| But apart from a tendency to overheat easily, my real problem with helmets is baggage. I have too much already because I have to take a big roll of memory foam for the bed (for my bad back). That and boots and shovel and probe and backpack and skins and harness and rope etc etc. There is hardly any weight or space left for clothes. I suppose I could at least leave out the travel iron and wax and file and get my skis serviced at a shop. Wouldn't make much difference though. |
Just clip to your backpack/hand luggage.
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TotallyBoard, I had the same experience. Woke up in the snow surrounded by people who had picked up my gear in the park. Hat, goggles, skis and poles. There's no going back for me. There is no reason to not wear a helmet for me. Keeps my head warm and goggle mist free. Hiring one is definitely a no, you could easily get a stinker!
QS
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| clarky999 wrote: |
| snowball wrote: |
| But apart from a tendency to overheat easily, my real problem with helmets is baggage. I have too much already because I have to take a big roll of memory foam for the bed (for my bad back). That and boots and shovel and probe and backpack and skins and harness and rope etc etc. There is hardly any weight or space left for clothes. I suppose I could at least leave out the travel iron and wax and file and get my skis serviced at a shop. Wouldn't make much difference though. |
Just clip to your backpack/hand luggage. |
? "One piece of hand luggage" which fits in their little measuring space? How do you get it past them?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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snowball, wear the helmet going through security?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Silly question really, wear a helmet and help protect the most important part of your body
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clarky999 wrote:
snowball wrote:
But apart from a tendency to overheat easily, my real problem with helmets is baggage. I have too much already because I have to take a big roll of memory foam for the bed (for my bad back). That and boots and shovel and probe and backpack and skins and harness and rope etc etc. There is hardly any weight or space left for clothes. I suppose I could at least leave out the travel iron and wax and file and get my skis serviced at a shop. Wouldn't make much difference though.
Just clip to your backpack/hand luggage.
? "One piece of hand luggage" which fits in their little measuring space? How do you get it past them?
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I have never had even an eyebrow raised over this going through the airports.
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You know it makes sense.
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I just put the lid in hand luggage and then stuff it with camera, mp3 player and other delicate items.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| snowball wrote: |
| clarky999 wrote: |
| snowball wrote: |
| But apart from a tendency to overheat easily, my real problem with helmets is baggage. I have too much already because I have to take a big roll of memory foam for the bed (for my bad back). That and boots and shovel and probe and backpack and skins and harness and rope etc etc. There is hardly any weight or space left for clothes. I suppose I could at least leave out the travel iron and wax and file and get my skis serviced at a shop. Wouldn't make much difference though. |
Just clip to your backpack/hand luggage. |
? "One piece of hand luggage" which fits in their little measuring space? How do you get it past them? |
I always just have it clipped to the top of my backpack! The only time security have mentioned it was in Munich when some dude wanted to try it on for the fit lol. There's no way in hell I'd let it go in the hold though, I want to know exactly what impacts it's had if I'm going to trust my head to it!
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Poster: A snowHead
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I am extremely surprised - they are normally ferocious about baggage now - only being what they specify you can take, and charging extra if they possibly can.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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dobby, Think like this,,,,, is there something to protect???? if there is,,, you will have a helmet,,,,,,
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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dobby,
Think like this,,,,, is there something to protect?????
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snowball, Backpack and a helmet usually fits in the space measurer thing fine, and I can't see them ever banning helmets. I'm sure at a pinch it'd be easy enough to spout some bullschlager to get it through anyway - epileptic and need it in case you have a fit or something - or the above about needing to know the impacts it's taken. Even Ryanair/Flybe/etc have never had a problem with mine though.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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dobby, Think like this,,,, have I something to protect????? 
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| dobby wrote: |
| I got one with built in head phone to plug into my ipod. |
what brand
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go to skiing-injury.com read the stats and make up your own mind. You will probabley find that you will go out and buy two knee braces in order to protect your self from a common and crippling ski injury rather than a helmet to protect your self from a one in a million chance of injury and zero chance of preventing death from head injury. That being said Dr Mike Langran who compiles the site does wear one. Make up your own mind and ignore the marketing.
Be cool and look at this carefully.
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SkiBob, I for one would much rather have knee damage than brain damage...
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SkiBob, first, the site is actually www.ski-injry.com , not www.skiing-injury.com .
But then, if you actually read the site, you will see that it says head injuries account for 10-20% of all ski injuries requiring medical attention - so hardly "in in a million" (actually about 3 in 10,000 according to them).
OK, ity is less than a one in a million chance of death, and very few of those would have been prevented by a helmet, but protection from death isn't the main reason for wearing one.
there is also a full page specifically about helmets on that site, where the author concludes with:
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So, to conclude, I am a helmet wearer and recommend others to wear one too. There is good evidence to indicate that a helmet will protect you against many of the common injuries that the head is susceptible too when on the slopes. They are especially important for children, who run a higher generic risk of snow sport injury. Helmets seem to have their most protective effect in incidents involving low speed impacts (below 15 mph) and for falls leading to blows to the head on the snow surface.
There is no evidence to date that helmets predispose the wearer to a higher risk of neck injury or cause injury to others. Neither that they restrict vision, hearing or general sensory awareness.
Finally, be aware that there is no conclusive scientific evidence that helmets reduce the risk of death in the event of a high speed collision with another object. Wearing a helmet does not make you invincible and may not offer you full protection if you have a high speed impact - so go careful, especially if there are trees on or near the pistes you're using. Such events though are very rare and do not, in my opinion (and that of many other snow sports researchers) justify a blanket law mandating their use.
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SkiBob, and show me any evidence that knee braces are useful for injury prevention rather than treatment? For once I agree with alex_heney.
You're not Bob Eastwood btw are you?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| clarky999 wrote: |
| I always just have it clipped to the top of my backpack! The only time security have mentioned it was in Munich when some dude wanted to try it on for the fit lol. There's no way in hell I'd let it go in the hold though, I want to know exactly what impacts it's had if I'm going to trust my head to it! |
Grenoble do not allow it either.
I went from no helmet, to a season or so with one, back to not wearing one. Basically I 'play the luggage system' and only pay for my board bag and need my hand luggage for luggage ... so I have no space for a helmet.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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If its any help i can offer my personal view. i am a consultant grade sports and exercise chartered physiotherapist with 20 years experience in this area.
Firstly, a helmet will considerably reduce your chances of first impact abrasion and contusion, especially when contacting a hard surface. It will not stop a neck injury. I emphasise 'reduce'. because any reasonably violent head movement with a sudden stop, can cause the brain to impact the inside of the skull, resulting in swelling and/or bleeding. There are loads of other factors and even 'pot luck', but a helmet should help.
Secondly, a knee brace will NOT reduce you chance of knee injury. It is possible for a brace to INCREASE the chance of injury. This is because it can reduce the effectiveness of the joint's natural dynamic protective sytems (proprioception etc). True, if you have an existing injury or mechanical deficit (such as a laxity of cruciate stability) then a brace may enable you to ski - but don't mistake this for increased protection.
If you are still unconvinced then look around at almost any sport you can think of. Do any of the high level sports folk wear prophylactic knee or shoulder braces (apart from when they already have an injury). The answer is no, they rely on their natural protective mechanisms.
Some folk are more confident wearing a simple support such as a neoprene one, this should not cause any problems. A more technical brace may cause problems....so don't do it unless professionally advised to.
hope this helps.
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Simple observation that holds true in every resort I've visited (yes, I'm the sad person you've seen working out percentages in the gondola): the tougher the run, the higher the proportion of helmet wearers.
Do you want to look like a noob or a pro?
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