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Elizabeth B, in terms of layout, yeah, in terms of actual content I think he's remarkably laissez faire. Snowheads pretty much goes wherever people can be bothered posting. Most boards out there are far more regulated and directed. The only things he's thrown his metaphorical weight around about have been the DG and PG debacles, both of which seem to have had next to nothing to do with what's actually posted on the board and a lot to do with what went on off it.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Elizabeth B, O f course this is admin's train set - and it is a pretty good one, generally, but I think brian's comment was fair. FWIW, I had not idea who the Chief Smiley Maker was until your post - and I am not sure that it should be an issue for forum users - though I do appreciate that SH has a rather unique extended family atmosphere.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| brian wrote: |
| Elizabeth B, in terms of layout, yeah, in terms of actual content I think he's remarkably laissez faire. |
Surely that is a good thing? And if so, why not allow him the indulgence of a bit of fun with the logo? Go on, have a play wirth it. Move santa's beard and hat to another letter. Blow up the flying sleigh. It's a bit of fun.
Do you really want snowHeads to become a place where everyone is so fixated on skiing that we forget to smile occasionally? Many websites introduce snowflakes in winter......and I bet they'd like to have a flying sleigh too 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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SMALLZOOKEEPER, age has a bearing, because kids are more likely to get upset when their work (which is good) is being slated in public. That's the only reason.......
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Elizabeth B, Ok, but i don't agree that the work is good because the chap responsable is 12 years of age. It's either good or it isn't. I quite like my screen throwing Snowballs at me and would like an 'adult' version of the 'Shoot Santa' game. 
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| Elizabeth B wrote: |
| [Surely that is a good thing? And if so, why not allow him the indulgence of a bit of fun with the logo? Go on, have a play wirth it. Move santa's beard and hat to another letter. Blow up the flying sleigh. It's a bit of fun. |
I've no problems with the logo, but it's either a big coincidence or it's knackered many other things like fonts, look and feel, and also the text entry goes mad every now and again.....
Also most sites do this kind of thing as a "skin" that you can turn on/off.
regards,
greg
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kitenski, I'm told that it is a big coincidence and the problems are nothing to do with the logo. In fact, some of the problems were here before the logo.
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| Elizabeth B wrote: |
| kitenski, I'm told that it is a big coincidence and the problems are nothing to do with the logo. In fact, some of the problems were here before the logo. |
Wow! Cheers for the update 
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Elizabeth B, of course it's a good thing ... and of course he can do whatever he likes. He could delete all the moany posts, ban the users etc. all entirely his prerogative.
As I said above, I'd be quite happy with that kind of indulgence for a couple of days around xmas but not for what will probably be a month or more. Imo (which I concede is worthless and eminently ignorable), the longer you string out xmas things, the less exciting and memorable they become.
s is different things to different people, and part of its magic is the diversity of its different boards. Plastering an indulgence all over the top of every page for weeks in an un-ignorable fashion is taking it a bit far (again in my WAEII). Particularly when it breaks functionality (obviously all fixed now).
Anyway, since xjenkins has come up with the solution it's all a bit moot, no ?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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What's "the solution"??? (obviously missed something...)
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| brian wrote: |
Elizabeth B, of course it's a good thing ... and of course he can do whatever he likes. He could delete all the moany posts, ban the users etc. all entirely his prerogative.
As I said above, I'd be quite happy with that kind of indulgence for a couple of days around xmas but not for what will probably be a month or more. Imo (which I concede is worthless and eminently ignorable), the longer you string out xmas things, the less exciting and memorable they become.
s is different things to different people, and part of its magic is the diversity of its different boards. Plastering an indulgence all over the top of every page for weeks in an un-ignorable fashion is taking it a bit far (again in my WAEII). Particularly when it breaks functionality (obviously all fixed now).
Anyway, since xjenkins has come up with the solution it's all a bit moot, no ? |
A miserable Scotsman. That is a turnup for the books.
The SH animation looks fine. It is a lighthearted bit of fun. It is no big deal. Keep 'em coming.
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You know it makes sense.
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| ......It is a lighthearted bit of fun. It is no big deal. Keep 'em coming. |
But perhaps keep the same url so that we don't have to keep changing the adblock plus filter. Should please evrybody, then.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I think the snowflakes and moveable santa hat/beard and reindeer targets are brilliant
Cheered me up no end !
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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If it comes to a vote and it probably won't I'm a fence sitter. I quite like most of the variations on a theme, but do agree that they can outlive their useful life a fair bit before they are removed. A short lived snappy display leaves you eagerly awaiting the next one rather than thinking I wish they'd take it down.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Frosty the Snowman, Leave it out you 'Dirty Northern Monkey." 
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| brian wrote: |
| Elizabeth B, in terms of layout, yeah, in terms of actual content I think he's remarkably laissez faire. Snowheads pretty much goes wherever people can be bothered posting. Most boards out there are far more regulated and directed. The only things he's thrown his metaphorical weight around about have been the DG and PG debacles, both of which seem to have had next to nothing to do with what's actually posted on the board and a lot to do with what went on off it. |
brian your observation is rather misleading IMO. Although there were indeed off-site issues between myself and each of the people you refer to, the 'throwing around of weight' was purely in response to behaviour on the forum or directly related to the forum's operation.
With regard to the degree to which snowHeads is regulated and directed: I, with the support of the Piste Patrol and the help and advice of many other members of the community, set a standard of behaviour that is expected and encouraged at snowHeads. In that sense it is directed and because that has worked fairly well over the past 3.5 years, we have avoided the need for it to become highly regulated.
My attitude may well appear laissez faire and, on the whole, I much prefer to trust the community to work out its issues for itself. But the absence of an iron fist of authority does not mean that snowHeads is unmanaged and if you need evidence of that, compare the nature of it to the ski topics on usenet.
With regard to the logo: Yes it is the work of my spawn and yes he's 12 and although I accept that I am inherently biased, I think it stands as a good fun piece of interactive web design independent of the age of the designer and that is the basis upon which I use it. After all, there will be many many more thousands more people who see it, who have no concept of who it was created by than those who do know. Fortunately the CSM is much better at graphics than he is at reading and, when he came home from school wanting to know what feedback there had been on his work, I was able to give him a slightly abridged version. However, FYI his response was, that he wanted to post "Don't they know this is the day they're supposed to worship me, not whinge at me". Messianic delusion aside, he's got a point: at times in the last few days this place has looked more like "snowGrinches".
Personally I'm into skiing, and indeed snowHeads, for the fun (remember that folks?) and let's face it, no matter how seriously you convince yourself to take it, skiing is essentially 'going up to go down... over and over again' just like we did on the slide as kiddies in playgrounds only moreso. Frankly, once snowHeads is too up itself to have a Christmas logo, I'm afraid I'll be out of here and you can all go and pay £50/year to talk seriously on the SCGB board or take your chances in the post-apocalyptic territory of usenet.
With regard to changes in site appearance: Yes, at one point the alternate grey posts were a subtle shade of pink which was initially the result of some experimenting but which I thought I'd leave as it amused me thinking back to when I turned the SCGB site Pink and it seemed sort of funny/fun in a Christmassy kind of way. Obviously I was wrong and it isn't Christmas 
For reference: my choice of Pink as the colour to turn the 'snow' on the SCGB site was not, as some would have it, a Freudian insight into my sexuality but simply one into the bedtime reading matter I was sharing with The Chief Smilie Maker.
Despite the ongoing complaints, there has been no change in font, nor colour, just a very slight brightening, so the contrast is reduced slightly. To get a perspective on the difference before and after this calamity, look here
There is also now a very thin white line between posts which used to be a very thin grey line. However, as this only appears under IE, if you really really can't live with it, get FF or Opera.
I apologise for the disruption to the functionality of some links when I first put the logo up. A small oversight on my part with regard to 'dreaded browser incompatibility issues'. It woud have been fixed quicker but for more serious issues coming to a head that day. That should mostly be sorted now; at least for all major PC configurations. I'm afraid I don't have a Mac to test there  Aparently there's a Linux based config that's not working out well though 
Although the implementation of the new logo had a small bearing on the timing of the outage a couple of days ago, it was not the primary cause of it. The underlying problem had already been noticed and was under investigation. The server configuration has since been altered slightly to prevent a re-occurrence of the overload while we work out a proper solution. Unfortunately this has reduced the general performance of the site slightly.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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cheers Admin.
Maybe it's my system but the fonts look massively different to me and honestly really hard on the eyes, here's a screenshot of what I see from your "look here" link:
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kitenski, yes that is what I see. For those of us half blind - it was easier to read before.
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OK kitenski, that's a much bigger difference than I see here.
What's your browser/OS?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| ....... Frankly, once snowHeads is too up itself to have a Christmas logo, I'm afraid I'll be out of here and you can all go and pay £50/year to talk seriously on the SCGB board or take your chances in the post-apocalyptic territory of usenet. |
Hmm. Well I do fork out my £50 for SCGB membership - on top of the contribution I make to snowheads. Their forum software is clunky but pages load fast and it is reliable. If you are off out of here (your right) someone else will pop up a site in its place. No one was beefing about there being a Christmas logo, but I do wonder why it has to be up so long in advance of Christmas - and, forecasting by the Halloween thing, so long after it. I also found the juggling balls on the top of Santa's head unpleasant (and from what I have read on web design, though I think you'd be unlucky, the guy who wrote about triggering epilepsy has a point). Adblock Plus has solved that.
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| Obviously I was wrong and it isn't Christmas |
No, it's not. It's Advent - and early in Advent, too.
All that said, I have some sympathy for you - you started up this site voluntarily. I am sure you feel it should be yours to play with. Trouble is, it's almost become an institution like Radio 4, try to change it and there's consternation.
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I like it. 
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You know it makes sense.
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If you are off out of here (your right) someone else will pop up a site in its place.
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Don't start downloading your opensource forum s/w yet, I'm not going anywhere but I do insist u start having fun... or else
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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admin, oh all right. Anyway, I am not sufficiently insane to start a snow forum myself, I'd wait for some other nutter. 
Can't wait to be out on the snow again.
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admin, I'm having fun, honest
PS I think your boy done a grand job, good for him.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I'd say it's because Admin also got a life outside Snowheads and no contractual date as to when the site needs to be updated....
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Well, even with my window maximised, the logo disappears as soon as I scroll down to read a post/article..Surely, you can live with it for a couple seconds every now and then...
Apart from the issue of the font being difficult to read for some, it's a whole lot of grumpiness to me....
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tbh, I thought the people being grumpy about the people being grumpy were grumpier than the original grumpiness, which was quite light hearted and banterous, if a little grumpy, no ?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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True, it does nothing.
But really, if your machine is so slow that that animation makes a difference to your browsing it may be time to get an new computer. |
It isn't (mainly) the computer, it is also the fact that it seems to re-download each time you open a new page.
I was finding it a real pain, even at home, where I have a 1.5Mb connection, and a Core2 Duo processer with 2Gb of RAM.
I've switched to SubBlack until it has gone away.
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I've been looking at this and so far it appears that there is only a big difference on IE7 and as yet I don't know why that is.
Has anyone noticed a change as dramatic as kitenski's screen grab under another browser?
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admin, I'm getting exactly the same font showing in IE (presume 7....it's the one that's fairly recent and has the tabs) and in Firefox.
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Approx 60,000 children have died through poverty since the this thread was started.
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