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skiingfool wrote:
Could someone please clarify fall line for me? .

It's the line directly down the hill. If you were to roll a ball down the piste it would follow the fall line.
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I rest my case my Lord
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skiingfool, I get quite nervous when I'm the closing argument Wink What was your case?
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rob@rar, If you read from the top you will understand Laughing
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skiingfool, I did, and I don't Puzzled
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[ b].RE read this

I had a lesson on moguls last year in Courchevel. I was going up on the chairlift and the instructor asked what I wanted to concentrate on. I was terrified of bumps, but knew I needed to learn to ski them, so I said moguls. Mr DS was amazed I'd had the nerve to say it. My usual bumps technique was to traverse rather wobbly until I found a nice bump to try and turn on, and then turn, and go off across the slope again.

We started off with the correct technique on the flat (harder than on bumps, as it turned out), and then headed to a bumpy red. At the end of the lesson I was skiing down a bumpy red, straight down the fall line, none of the "ooh, I'll just ski over to that bump there, it looks a bit easier to turn on!", and I was astonished I'd done it.

The next day the weather changed, it was +16C and the mountain turned into mogulled slush. There were bodies, ski poles, goggles detached skis and inverted skiers everywhere we looked (as well as upside-down snowboarders). I just did what I was taught and came down a pretty bumpy black and then a red with absolutely huge moguls on it (harder than the black, IMO). Straight down the fall-line, right way up, no problem! I still need to improve, coz I do tend to stem turn a bit when I lose concentration. But given that I was one of the few who came down both slopes still attached to my skis (and my bindings are set on 3), I was quite pleased.
rob@rar[/b], hyweljenkins, try my 147's - they are very easy on them They are, of course, even easier on Snowblades
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skiingfool, sorry mate, still don't know what case you're making.
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rob@rar, may be i should have read about bindings set on three before i started this because as normal. I thought we were talking about a adult.
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rob@rar, may be i should have read about bindings set on three before i started this because as normal. I thought we were talking about a adult.

I think I'm having a blonde moment. Although you're writing in English my ability to comprehend what you're saying has abandoned me, hopefully only temporarily. Sorry about this Embarassed
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rob@rar, Do you know what fall line and stem mean Smile
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rob@rar, ps Any one that says they carve down a mogul feild is a lier also anyone that says they carve all the time beware no one does regards
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rob@rar, Do you know what fall line and stem mean Smile

Yes thank you. As you asked what the fall line was a little earlier was I right to assume that you didn't understand what it meant?

Instead of beating around the bush with cryptic comments why don't you get off your chest what ever is bothering you? You might feel much better for it.
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I think it would be fair to say that anyone who can ski a red mogul field in the fall line is a damn fine skier of red mogul fields, assuming that they are linking turns at speed and are not stopping on the front of every bump Toofy Grin

I might even go so far as to say that anyone who can go from "timid traverser of bumps" to red mogul fall line skiing in one lesson is one heck of a quick learner, or had a very good instructor Toofy Grin
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rob@rar, ps Any one that says they carve down a mogul feild is a lier also anyone that says they carve all the time beware no one does regards
Liar here, I guess. rolling eyes I can carve down a mogul field. But, I don't often exclusively carve down a mogul field. I don't carve all the time, tho.
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skiingfool wrote:
rob@rar, ps Any one that says they carve down a mogul feild is a lier also anyone that says they carve all the time beware no one does regards


What an interesting comment. I must have a nose like pinnochio. rolling eyes

I suggest a re-visitation of the definition of carve.
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veeeight, two minds thinking alike, eh wot? wink snowHead Twisted Evil
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and my balls are bigger than yours.......get a life guys Cool
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halfhand, I think you will find that rather than comparing size of balls, ssh and I were challenging the assertion that anyone who carves in moguls is a liar. A fairly bold claim, I'm sure you'll agree.

Now, if you'd just release that firm grip you've got from that end of the stick.............
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halfhand, does that mean you ski with your legs wider apart? Laughing
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I have seen peeps carve down a mogul field, but it does depend to a degree on how far apart the moguls are. We were taught to do this on long skis in my Grade 1 training. It's not my preferred mogul technique but then I'm old and timid! BTW a jolly exercise we were given on my last BASI revalidation was to ski a mogul field not turning our feet more than 20deg out of the fall line - now that's hard! I could have sworn I'd done it, but was told I hadn't when I got the the bottom of the pitch - I felt I was going like a rocket though. Shock
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halfhand,
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and my balls are bigger than yours

Prove it.
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ssh, veeeight, So you guy's carve down a mogal field do you. Or are we back to the title of this thread. yes you might for some of the time but let's not make out that you do it all the way down. If you can then you are better than any Austrian I Know.
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skiingfool you may be, but those 2 are not.
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Floppy the Snotman, How do you know what my skiing level is at? I just see this all the time, and you get fed up with it.I know I'm being fussy but there you go.
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skiingfool, they are both instructors and skiing pros as am I - I can do it if I choose to - I just prefer not to go anywhere near moguls these days if I don't have to! Very Happy
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skiingfool, I have no idea as to your skiing level, and have not commented on it. I do have knowledge of some of the above posters that you have doubted and if a highly respected and qualified instructor tells me they can carve down a mogul field, then I will believe them over someone who says they can't.

I have only just learnt how to carve and am in no position to criticise you or any others. I perceivd I was a decent skier, until I saw folks that could REAALY ski Smile

EDIT: Beaten to it again Embarassed
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Floppy the Snotman, Laughing
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easiski, I do not respect most ski instrutors because most of them are jumped up little kid's that have not got the time to learn the basics. Yes there are some great one's out there, but for every good one there are ten bad ones, when it comes to brit's. I still Question instructors that say they can Carve all the way down a mogul field. Question
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skiingfool, have a little look here - smallish ones but they always look smaller from downhill and the guy's hardly breaking a sweat and I'd expect wouldn't have too much problem with significantly bigger ones


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skiingfool wrote:
easiski, I do not respect most ski instrutors because most of them are jumped up little kid's that have not got the time to learn the basics.

I think it's quite difficult to get to BASI 1 without learning the basics. How many Brit instructors have you been taught by?
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slikedges, Thats the fall line is it?
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skiingfool, no, but what's that got to do got to do with it Puzzled
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slikedges, If you read the thread from the top?
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skiingfool, I've read the thread enough to know you just tried that for size on rob! Please just briefly explain yourself and we can get on with discussing the point. Little Angel
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skiingfool, I've read the thread enough to know you just tried that for size on rob! Please just briefly explain yourself and we can get on with discussing the point. Little Angel

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I do not respect most ski instrutors because most of them are jumped up little kid's that have not got the time to learn the basics
Well thats easiski, sussed then wink Laughing Laughing
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Just can't resist any longer

slikedges, Nice bit of skiing, but carving? As soon as it starts looking even a bit like a mogul field he seems to spend a lot of time without his skis even on the snow - last I heard carving left two distibct clean continuous tracks.
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slikedges, Nice bit of skiing, but carving? As soon as it starts looking even a bit like a mogul field he seems to spend a lot of time without his skis even on the snow - last I heard carving left two distibct clean continuous tracks.

Presumably when he's changing direction his skis are on the snow?
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Thats a great clip. Very Happy
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slikedges, so you cant understand the bit about what?
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