 Poster: A snowHead
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| Jonny996 wrote: |
| @Haggis_Trap, You don’t strike me as a man who is shy of complaining. Why did you not take these straight back if you knew they weren’t working? |
Because life is too short (and I don't live in Tignes).
Any boot tweak takes a couple of days to test and incrementally adjust.
Boot fitting not always an obvious black and white case of something simply being "right" or "wrong".
Once back home eventually decided to rip them out and figured out another solution that works much better for me.
To be fair the same shop did another couple of tweaks (punched shell and modified liner) which did work well.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I can only go on my own experience and have footbeds from Profeet (www.profeet.co.uk) in Fulham, London. I've been going there for my run and ski orthotics since they opened (20 years ago) as I knew the founder Hamish. They are excellent and I'd always recommend them. I haven't had a boot fit from Colin at Solutions4Feet, but my impression is that it's a similar level.
FWIW I have wide flat feet, with no arch and the two sets of boots they've done for me have included modifications to improve the fit
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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FWIW : my wife last week got some custom Superfeet to go with new boots.
These are 3d printed based on a scan of the foot.
To my eye these look much better than the Sidas ones using the gel pad to make a mold.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I’ve used custom footbeds of all sorts in ski boots since the 1980s
When I was in my 40s In about 2010 I started suffering from plantar fasciitis which is a horrible painful issue with the foot and the heel to do with ligaments. It’s a bit like tennis elbow in that it is a tendinitis but far more painful than the elbow and in my case debilitated me to the point that I couldn’t walk properly without being an agony.
My osteopath recommended that I visit a company called Feet in Motion. I was somewhat sceptical but nonetheless made an appointment with them and discovered that they made customise insoles/footbeds designed to correct your posture from the bottom up.
The way the whole process worked was that instead of standing in a static position on a moulding heat pad I was asked to walk 100+ times across a digitised footpad that detected my gait, posture and relative pressure points across my feet.
On that day they explained in great detail the issues they perceived with my feet following which I proceeded to order the recommended insoles . they digitally printed the insoles that I was advised to use in my shoes at all times. They also gave me some very good stretching exercises and other related advice.
Since then, my entire posture and body chain from my feet to my back has improved dramatically.
Within a month, my plantar fasciitis was all but cured. I continue to use them to this day and replace my, insoles every two years or so on a rolling basis. I use one pair for my ski boots and they are by far the best thing that I have ever had under my feet in a ski boot.
I thoroughly Recommend that anyone considering spending money on a Specialized footbed for a Ski Boot actually spends it on a Specialized footbed for their life and simply makes additional use of it for Skiing.
This is just my personal experience, but it was absolutely transformational and I can’t recommend it more highly.
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| rickboden wrote: |
I thoroughly Recommend that anyone considering spending money on a Specialized footbed for a Ski Boot actually spends it on a Specialized footbed for their life and simply makes additional use of it for Skiing.
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There is truth in that. The same general issues which I use superfeet for in ski boots also need addressed in my running shoes or hiking boots (all be it with slightly different solutions).
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| Haggis_Trap wrote: |
i) I dont think you can separate comfort and performance (it's hard to ski well with sore feet). Nor do those goals needs to be mutually exclusive. |
It’s just I haven’t heard too many people I skied with whose foot discomfort are solved by custom footbed. They’re more likely have to do with the shell/liner modification.
However, I know a few who had no complain about comfort but felt their skiing improved once they had custom footbed done.
Personally, I like the feel of custom footbed, even though it didn’t change the comfort level. I feel like I have a more intimate connection to my skis and can sense the change underfoot better which helps me in better balance. But that’s probably because my arch is within the typical range of “average”? When I go on holidays that mix skiing with non-skiing, I found I don’t need to lug around my own boots. I only need to take my footbed to get a reasonable fit (despite the fact my two feet are of slightly different size).
That said, when I asked my boot fitter about a footbed for my (skate) cross country boot, he suggested I tried some off-the-shelf ones first, because he thinks the typical footbed for ski boot maybe too firm for that usage. (He said he could make a softer one if I can’t find a good fit though. So clearly there’s a lot for a boot fitter to consider)
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I had some boots fitted with custom insoles in the summer, didn't work out as well as I hoped. Im not going to mention any names because I owe them at least a second chance. I dont have time for at the moment because I already have some boots that are bearable and I am very busy at work. I like a very tight boot and I'm prepared to put up with the associated discomfort, ive always worn all sports shoes a size small. In this case I asked to go a size smaller than the fitter really wanted to because they felt right with the standard wafer thin insole. Once I tried the boot on again with the custom insole I could barely buckle it up, once the insole was pulled out it was obvious why, it looked about 3 times the size in volume, they tried to grind it down but the boot is still in the pain rather than discomfort range. I know this boot can be made to fit because it is a wider last and the same size as the one im currently using, just needs more work.
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FAQ
These days, most decent boots come with moldable footbeds. Those are typically heat molded. With those, I would think reasonable comfort can be assured.
