 Poster: A snowHead
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Carbon Poles are much thinner, which gives less wind resistance
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It's the classic going to an engineer with a brick on a piece of paper and asking how to make the piece of paper lighter and more aerodynamic  Unless highly competitive racer (downhill, X country, or skimo) wind resistance of poles is definitely something you don't need to worry about!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Get touring poles so you can try different lengths. Everyone else is wrong and I’m right. ;p
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@JayRo, I'm afraid I'm to old a dog (and skied too much on my 115s) to want to change them now!!
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@welshflyer, only if they were rotating rather quickly 
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I think you mean Stokes' law. I always wondered if that was why y'all are in the back seat quite so much.
Sticks... some kind of dangerous skier thing. The carbon ones look funkier; anyone know why they're not more popular?
How about people skiing without sticks - that seemed to be a fashion for a while but didn't last.
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anyone know why they're not more popular?
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Price? Although you do see loads of tourers with carbon sticks (and everything else) ...
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@phil_w,
Thank you. I hadn't come across Stokes'Law.
Stokes'Law appears to apply specifically to spheres, hence dimples on golf balls. 
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@phil_w,
Thank you. I hadn't come across Stokes'Law.
Stokes'Law appears to apply specifically to spheres, hence dimples on golf balls.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| If you didn’t want anything fancy I’ve got a pair of barely used Salomon grey poles in a 125, bought when I was deciding between sizes, you can have for free. |
Whereabouts in MK are you? I might be able to grab them one time when I'm passing. I'm happy to pay/make a small charitable donation.
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| boarder2020 wrote: |
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Carbon Poles are much thinner, which gives less wind resistance
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It's the classic going to an engineer with a brick on a piece of paper and asking how to make the piece of paper lighter and more aerodynamic Unless highly competitive racer (downhill, X country, or skimo) wind resistance of poles is definitely something you don't need to worry about! |
At no point did I say you should worry about it, or it should be an important consideration when buying Poles - In fact, my advice was to get cheap Aluminium ones. The OP asked if there was anything to differentiate between poles - and that was what I was trying to do in my initial post.
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You know it makes sense.
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| I found some poles of the correct length (traditional method of measuring...) in a Cash Converters type of place. They are ancient alu Look poles. They have the older style large diameter flange on the top, which I understand was sized to be larger diameter than the average eye socket to help prevent an injury. Has that now been dropped? because I see poles of much smaller end flange these days. |
Big flange (my new band name) grips are better IMO because you can palm on the top for leverage when poling flats etc. Though the big flange can tear as the rubber gets old.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
| Deveron53 wrote: |
| I found some poles of the correct length (traditional method of measuring...) in a Cash Converters type of place. They are ancient alu Look poles. They have the older style large diameter flange on the top, which I understand was sized to be larger diameter than the average eye socket to help prevent an injury. Has that now been dropped? because I see poles of much smaller end flange these days. |
Big flange (my new band name) grips are better IMO because you can palm on the top for leverage when poling flats etc. Though the big flange can tear as the rubber gets old. |
Mine are sort of 95% rigid and see through. Still transparent after about 30 years!
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
| Deveron53 wrote: |
| I found some poles of the correct length (traditional method of measuring...) in a Cash Converters type of place. They are ancient alu Look poles. They have the older style large diameter flange on the top, which I understand was sized to be larger diameter than the average eye socket to help prevent an injury. Has that now been dropped? because I see poles of much smaller end flange these days. |
Big flange (my new band name) grips are better IMO because you can palm on the top for leverage when poling flats etc. Though the big flange can tear as the rubber gets old. |
Mine are sort of 95% rigid and see through. Still transparent after about 30 years! |
In the attic, I have some Lange Ski Poles in very Dark Blue, with large Orange hard plastic handles (Leather straps with safety release) and large Orange baskets. They matched their SLS skis from 40 years ago. There won't be many of them on the mountain - in fact, I doubt many people even know Lange made skis.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Simple answer, the best poles by far are the Leki ones with screw off handles and inbuilt flasks for Schnapps / Brandy etc. Many a strange look given in the Gondola when someone has these. You must however ensure you drink equal amounts from each pole or you will ski round in circles all day.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| stephap wrote: |
| If you didn’t want anything fancy I’ve got a pair of barely used Salomon grey poles in a 125, bought when I was deciding between sizes, you can have for free. |
Whereabouts in MK are you? I might be able to grab them one time when I'm passing. I'm happy to pay/make a small charitable donation. |
Sorry I’ve already arranged to give them to James next week.
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| stephap wrote: |
Sorry I’ve already arranged to give them to James next week. |
No worries. Thanks for responding.
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@DrLawn,
Geoffers posted a link to the Goode website where you can buy new poles or parts. However you would have to pay for postage from the USA.
I have ordered 2 pairs of new collets/ice tips & baskets for my very old Goode poles and they are already in the post. The parts cost $20 and the postage is another $20.
If I didn't have my very old 10.4mm carbon shafted Goode poles I would have bought bought some 12.7mm carbon tubing here in the UK and bought handles, straps, collets and baskets from Goode in the USA and "built" new poles.
If you still have the broken Leki pole you may be able to replace the carbon shaft (search Ebay for carbon tubing of the correct diameter). Searching You Tube shows you how to replace handles, collets and baskets on Leki poles.
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@welshflyer, Thank you for the advice.
The carbon tubing might have been a good idea but these Leki ones were not cylindrical tubes but a "D" shaped format ...
they were Right and Left as well to add to the phaaf.
Imagine skiing with the wrong poles in your hands 
Of course one pole still survives intact .. so I can always have a very posh 115cm walking stick.
Someone else took it home for me so its up in Scotland now.
I'm not going to bother buying anymore poles, I'll just take what they offer in the rental shop.
Perhaps a pair of telescopic ones would be the answer if I ever take my own skis away again.
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| DrLawn wrote: |
Of course one pole still survives intact .. so I can always have a very posh 115cm walking stick. |
As do I.
I'd donate it to you, but I think it's a 120....Although they are adjustable.
Edit. It's not the Goode Poles that you have one left - Doh!
Last edited by You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net. on Sat 18-11-23 12:01; edited 1 time in total
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@DrLawn,
I too bought "D" sectioned Leki poles which I used for a couple of days and didn't like them, they are basically as new. They are 120cm long.
If you want to buy them I'll sell them for £70 plus p&p.
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| Old Fartbag wrote: |
What differentiates pole are things like:
- Whether they are made of Aluminium, Carbon or Composite. Carbon Poles are much thinner, which gives less wind resistance and a slight "give" when planting, but are often much more expensive.
- The size and material of the handle (softish or hard plastic). You also used to be able to get a "Sword Grip".
- Whether there is a safety release on the strap
- Whether there is a slight forward angle to help with planting position ie. Not quite a straight pole.
- Whether adjustable or whether it comes with a Powder Basket
Despite all that, I would probably go for cheap Aluminium ones - much like you have always used. While Pole Planting still has its place in modern skiing, most of the time it's more of a "Pole Touch"....and with fast carved GS turns, planting the pole is not advisable.
Also, expensive Carbon Poles are very attractive to the casual thief - so need careful watching. |
I am still using my Life-Link Alpine Extreme Composite poles. These have a couple of features not listed above. The main one is the ability to remove the handles and screw them together to make an avalanche probe. The second is a flex tip though I am not sure what the advantages of those are. This is in addition to being carbon fibre, safety release on the strap, forward angle built into the grip and interchangeable baskets. Basically, they tick all the feature boxes. The removable handles make them theft resistance as you can quickly remove the handles when leaving them and poles without handles are useless to anyone else. Which also eliminates someone taking them by mistake. Unfortunately, Life-Link was taken over by Scott (as I recall) and they stopped doing them 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@geoffers recommends Goode poles, and I agree, they were the best poles I ever had, as thin as a pencil, extremely tough carbon.
They lasted for years ... until I left them in the boot room as I rushed for the tranfer bus.
They dont seem to be available anymore
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Still have a pair of these from back in 2000, and love em. Unfortunately the rubber has worn off the handles now.
BTW they are still available, price wise are cheaper now than they were back in 2000. unfortunately no stockists in the UK now. 
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@jabuzzard, You can't beat a good gadget. 
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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If anyone's got some poles in fluorescent pink or yellow in at least 125cms then I might be interested in purchasing...
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Poster: A snowHead
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@welshflyer, Those Leki poles would be a great deal for someone...
But they would be too long for me .. I'm down to 110cm now.
Very nice and flashy poles.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I prefer a longer stick myself, I’m 172 & use a 120. I also prefer a longer ski, currently a 186.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@Deveron53, there are a few brands around ...
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| Deveron53 wrote: |
| If anyone's got some poles in fluorescent pink or yellow in at least 125cms then I might be interested in purchasing... |
Or just take an existing pair of 125 poles and tap up eBay for some rolls of fluorescent coloured tape...
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| If anyone's got some poles in fluorescent pink or yellow in at least 125cms then I might be interested in purchasing... |
Or just take an existing pair of 125 poles and tap up eBay for some rolls of fluorescent coloured tape... |
Or get a rattle can or two
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@Deveron53, by "at least" 125cms what do you mean? Would 225cms work?
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| @Deveron53, by "at least" 125cms what do you mean? Would 225cms work? |
Yes, have you got some?
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@Deveron53, pretty sure I can have some made up ...
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I'm glad this created so much traffic, and I got to see a Snowhead outside a bash too!
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The ski pole parts that I ordered from "Goode" on the west coast of the USA 2 weeks ago will be delivered today.
5 days of that 2 week delivery time has been here in the UK.
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FAQ
I replaced them with some Leki Carbon with ordinary straps (which I still use). If these break, I'm likely going back to Aluminium - probably my Lange.