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have finally made booking for Corvara. Need to find a space to rest for 2 nights between arrival in Munich Airport and departure to Corvara. Am deciding between Venice, Innsbruck and Salzburg. Any recommendation? And any chance we can get to Corvara without a car, but on a shuttle/train?
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Salzburg and Innsbruck are both reasonably quick journeys from Munich and are both meant to be very nice. I have been to Innsbruck but not Salzburg and would certainly think its worth a couple of days lovely setting and a fine medieval old centre.
Venice although worth visiting is a lot further from Munich after a long flight,
Innsbruck is a lot closer to Corvara than Salzburg.
Looking at Rome 2 Rio the easiest option to Corvara would appear to be car though other people who do it more frequently than I may know of other options. The Car journey is certainly straightforward from Innsbruck I did it last year it is a straightforward drive on good roads. The roads from Venice to Corvara are certainly more winding.
Munich to Innsbruck is straightforward by car or train though from the airport I think you need to get into Munich first if going by train.
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Why no car? In some countries they are really cheap (e.g. italy) and in some they are not but may get a really nice car (Switzerland, germany).
It's more about money.
Flying to Geneva gives you great access to lots of not very expensive places (e.g. France).
Austria is nice but difficult to find cheap tickets to Innsbruck ang more expensive accommodation.
Zurich is good place to feel close but you may end up spending a lot on things like trains to resorts.
Milan/Venice could cause more troubles getting to the resort (2-4hrs drive) but cars and accommodation could be significantly cheaper.
I would do a calculation in spreadsheet. When I'm flexible about place the price of flight tickets are the least important factor.
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nadmadnad wrote: |
have finally made booking for Corvara. Need to find a space to rest for 2 nights between arrival in Munich Airport and departure to Corvara. Am deciding between Venice, Innsbruck and Salzburg. Any recommendation? And any chance we can get to Corvara without a car, but on a shuttle/train?
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Munich itself is lovely - why not stay there? I always stay at Hotel Admiral - it's close to Viktualien Markt & conveniently has a huge sport shop nearby. (I used to live in Hong Kong & always found myself buying a bit more kit during each ski trip!) The slightly longer train trip is generally not an issue - it helps kill the time between when you have to check out of most hotels (10-11am) and when you can check into your next place (3pm). If you have a lot of luggage (as often happens on ski trips) it can be worth the splurge for business
Salzburg is great for a number of Austrian resorts (Zell am See especially) but a terrible option if you want to take a train to Corvara - totally different train line, you'd need to transfer 2-3 more times & spend 2-3 more hrs vs train from Innsbruck. Venice - you can take the Cortina Express bus to Corvara, but if anyone in your family is prone to motion sickness, this is an unkind option. Others Snowhead can clarify this but I think the route is very winding.
Innsbruck is also perfect - it's on the same Munich to Verona train line that will take to Corvara. Either way, you take a highspeed ICE train to Fortezza/Franzenfeste and change for a local train to Brunico. You can take a local bus from Brunico to Corvara but more realistically, get your hotel to book a taxi to pick you up. Its 45-60mins and maybe ~100 euros max. Brunico looks like a mini Innsbruck & well worth a day trip while your family is skiing. If you like exploring on your own, you could even take the local train from Brunico to go sightseeing to towns like San Candido/Innichen or the very beautiful Lago di Braises/Prager wildsee.
Local transit is excellent (and this is high praise, when my benchmark is Hong Kong) - although it's more frequent in the next valley over (Val Gardena) than in Alta Badia. I would have suggested that you stay in Ortisei, which is a larger village than Corvara - but it's slightly less convenient for skiers. Corvara certainly has enough to keep a non-skiing visitor occupied tho, especially if you feel comfortable going walking on your own. There is easy valley level walking (1km to Colfosco, longer 5km trip to La Villa, another that follows frozen waterfalls) that would need nothing more than a pair of hiking (or ski poles).
It sounds like you've booked a hotel in Corvara already but if you haven't, I'd suggest Hotel Table, Hotel Villa Tony, or Ciasa de Munt. If you're not doing half board, ask this forum for food recommendations - and also for suggestions for where you can meet your family to eat on the mountain. Aside from the eateries located next to gondolas, many mountain restaurants (rifugios/huttes) are accessible by foot, as there are lots of winter walking paths - they are pisted and you need nothing more than regular hiking boots & a pair of walking poles (or ski poles!) in terms of equipment.
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nadmadnad wrote: |
have finally made booking for Corvara. Need to find a space to rest for 2 nights between arrival in Munich Airport and departure to Corvara. Am deciding between Venice, Innsbruck and Salzburg. Any recommendation? And any chance we can get to Corvara without a car, but on a shuttle/train?
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Wow, that's an 'interesting' choice of airport/destination. The distances may not sound much but the fact of crossing three countries means that non-car travel is going to be messy. Possible, of course, but with multiple changes of bus and train. Presumably you looked this all up before booking?
If you've not driven in Europe before then that's not as simple an option as you might think either, allow yourself a lot more time than google shows you, you may be in for a culture shock. Actually several culture shocks, with vastly different road and driving styles across three countries
As for your rest days choice, I'd rule out Venice straight away. It's just too far away, you're adding so much extra distance it's very unlikely to be worthwhile, especially with the rail option that means you'll effectively 'waste' several days just with the travelling..
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Chaletbeauroc wrote: |
nadmadnad wrote: |
have finally made booking for Corvara. Need to find a space to rest for 2 nights between arrival in Munich Airport and departure to Corvara. Am deciding between Venice, Innsbruck and Salzburg. Any recommendation? And any chance we can get to Corvara without a car, but on a shuttle/train?
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Wow, that's an 'interesting' choice of airport/destination. The distances may not sound much but the fact of crossing three countries means that non-car travel is going to be messy. Possible, of course, but with multiple changes of bus and train. Presumably you looked this all up before booking?
If you've not driven in Europe before then that's not as simple an option as you might think either, allow yourself a lot more time than google shows you, you may be in for a culture shock. Actually several culture shocks, with vastly different road and driving styles across three countries
As for your rest days choice, I'd rule out Venice straight away. It's just too far away, you're adding so much extra distance it's very unlikely to be worthwhile, especially with the rail option that means you'll effectively 'waste' several days just with the travelling.. |
If you can drive in Asia I don't think that Europe will offer anything too frightening, it's not really that difficult a journey over the Brenner pass. Apart from a few things like needing a pass for Austrian motorways its not really noticeable going between European countries these days no border controls or anything.
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Chaletbeauroc wrote: |
nadmadnad wrote: |
have finally made booking for Corvara. Need to find a space to rest for 2 nights between arrival in Munich Airport and departure to Corvara. Am deciding between Venice, Innsbruck and Salzburg. Any recommendation? And any chance we can get to Corvara without a car, but on a shuttle/train?
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Wow, that's an 'interesting' choice of airport/destination. The distances may not sound much but the fact of crossing three countries means that non-car travel is going to be messy. Possible, of course, but with multiple changes of bus and train. Presumably you looked this all up before booking?
If you've not driven in Europe before then that's not as simple an option as you might think either, allow yourself a lot more time than google shows you, you may be in for a culture shock. Actually several culture shocks, with vastly different road and driving styles across three countries
As for your rest days choice, I'd rule out Venice straight away. It's just too far away, you're adding so much extra distance it's very unlikely to be worthwhile, especially with the rail option that means you'll effectively 'waste' several days just with the travelling.. |
Why "interesting"? Resort choices when you're flying longhaul are very different than when you have the option of multiple airlines flying into 3-5 nearby airports (and train/bus/self drive), as seems to be the case for most Snowheads based in the UK.
Agree it's a bit of a faff getting from Munich to Corvara - I've done it a couple of times and few times more to Val Gardena - but when you're flying from Asia it's not worth taking the risk of flying into Innsbruck, per this thread: https://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=166642 . I flew into Innsbruck for my first European ski trip, to Kitzbuhel, and never again after I had the same experience, when my outbound flight was cancelled due to fog + my flight was rebooked out of Munich.
I suppose the OP could look for a connecting flight to Verona and cut the transfer time down. But the time from disembarkation from the OP's first flight would be about the same. As long as the OP's children are old or sturdy enough to be helpful with luggage, neither of the 2 transfers (at Munich Hauptbanhof and at Fortezza) are difficult - there are lifts, the OP won't be carrying suitcases up & down stairs (except for getting on/off the train - that can be a bit fraught if you're petite and your suitcase is big!)
Also, to put it into a global perspective, the transfer by road from Munich to Corvara is shorter than from San Francisco to Tahoe, or from Denver to Aspen and about the same as from Sapporo to Niseko - and there's no train/public transit option for the first two, while to go by train to Niseko from Chitose airport takes about 6 hours. What looks like madness to you may be a perfectly sensible option for someone with different parameters for their decision.
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nadmadnad wrote: |
have finally made booking for Corvara. Need to find a space to rest for 2 nights between arrival in Munich Airport and departure to Corvara. Am deciding between Venice, Innsbruck and Salzburg. Any recommendation? And any chance we can get to Corvara without a car, but on a shuttle/train?
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Best bet is to overnight in Innsbruck and then head down to Corvara. You can travel onward by train, but it's not an easy trip and you'll still have to get a bus or taxi and many hours to complete the trip. Best option I've found is to get a van to drive you to Corvara. From Innsbruck, check out Gangl Transfers: https://gangl-transfers.at/ .
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