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Inside / Out Tignes 4th November

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Jac Sprat, nothing below the glacier open at this time of year, lowest point is about 2,800 or thereabouts but mostly 3,000+
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If so I guess I'll do the Anadin treatment every four hours on the way there to thin the blood - no reason not to so may as well.
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Not something that has been a problem for your IOS guys in the past?
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Jac Sprat, don't forget that you'll be sleeping at 1,800m for a night before your first day skiing. I've never been aware of any suffering altitude sickness enough to stop them skiing at Tignes. Not sure if it's a big issue or not.
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Jac Sprat, see here, I believe that Diamox is the most commonly prescribed prophylactic drug. http://www.doctorfox.co.uk/altitude-sickness/
There is no correlation between altitude sickness and lack of fitness - extremely fit people can suffer from it, it really is very random. But you're right, the best idea is to acclimatize gradually. However, it would be difficult to start from a lower base than Norfolk! wink

Although I don't suffer from altitude sickness as such, like rob@rar I get a bit puffed in Tignes, and I also find it very difficult to sleep at altitude (though where you will be staying is not that high, actually.) And I have to say that blood thinning (I take low dose Aspirin all the time) made no difference whatsoever to the slight malaise I felt in Tignes last time I was there.

I very much hope you enjoy yourself and don't get unwell. There's no time to feel unwell on an IOS course! wink
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rob@rar wrote:
Jac Sprat, don't forget that you'll be sleeping at 1,800m for a night before your first day skiing.
Indeed. I felt much better when I did the course with you than I did on the PSB last season, and I put that down to the PSB accommodation being much higher up.
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Thanks - if there is nothing to be done then I shall just ignore it. It sounds like it hasn't been a problem for others.
I skied in val thorens last snow heads bash in April with no ill effects. Very Happy
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That's as polite a MTFU as you'll get on here wink
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Jac Sprat,
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Including on the glacier? You'll be absolutely fine, if so. Very Happy
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I can't remember if it was on the glacier - I did most of it as i remember ...
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There is no correlation between altitude sickness and lack of fitness - extremely fit people can suffer from it, it really is very random.



I did read somewhere that having a strong gag reflex is correlated with being vulnerable to altitude sickness. Just some possibly spurious trivia Smile
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Ha! Funny! I don't think I have...
Just gonna have to watch or severely reduce caffeine and alcohol intake too .
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Jac Sprat,
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If so I guess I'll do the Anadin treatment every four hours on the way there to thin the blood - no reason not to so may as well.

Why?
'Aspirin' aka salicylic acid irreversibly binds with platelets in your blood making them less sticky. Good for reducing the risk of DVT on long-haul flights if taken a few hours prior, but every 4hrs??

As for taking Diamox prophylactically...choose a seat close to the toilet on the plane - it is a pretty good diuretic as well!

Altitude sickness, as mentioned previously, can affect the old and young, the fit and the feeble.
The most important thing is to recognise the signs/symptoms, as it is a potentially life-threatening condition caused by the drop in partial pressures with altitude and subsequent respiratory alkalosis. I could bore you with more physiology-type stuff but the bottom line is that:
This is the body's natural response to less available oxygen - there are no useful pharmaceutical shortcuts to improve this that I know of
Just don't worry about altitude sickness, it could happen to any of us in a mountain environment.

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Just gonna have to watch or severely reduce caffeine and alcohol intake too .

Wrong. Just simply so absolutely and exquisitely wrong in any post relating to snow-associated holidays.
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HossDoc, I went trekking in the Himalayas a few years ago, and the only person who decided to take Diamox happened to be a doctor (consultant anaesthetist). I don't remember him spending an unusual amount of time peeing. Confused One or two people did get slight altitude sickness, the worst affected was definitely the fittest of us all.

I too would be a bit careful about my caffeine and alcohol intake if I were doing an Inside Out course. It's hard work and you have to get up early! In other words, it's probably a good plan irrespective of snow or altitude. wink
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Hold on now folks, what's all this talk of hard work? You have got me worried now.
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HossDoc,
Haha thanks I am just going on the reading I have googled. I hate taking pills so would certainly prefer not to. I read in a few places that thinning the blood is a good idea for altitude.
It is a good idea for me to limit my alcohol somewhat for other reasons but I don't particularly want to reduce caffeine with the early mornings and the need to be alert.
I wonder why I suffered so badly when I was 19. The mountaineering was exceptionally hard work but the a s made me tired after just one step and i fell asleep the minute i sat down. Mind you i went much higher - way above the glacier - right to the top of mountains like the Matterhorn. I was the only one on my group that had it at all. I had no idea it was dangerous and certainly didn't consider going lower or dropping out. I must say it spectacularly ruined the trip and never improved over one month.
However I am greatly cheered by the memory of val thorens recently where the idea of a s didn't cross my mind. I'm quite sure it'll be fine. Thanks for your thoughts.
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ansta1, you mean you've never experienced Scott yelling 'turn, turn, turn,TURN, TURN!' at you as you're hurtling down a slope of sheet ice? It's not a walk in the park, you know. wink
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Pedantica, There's not going to be any sheet ice next week. wink
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What time are the early morning runs this year???
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Laughing Laughing
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Pedantica, nope not ever had the please of that.

kitenski, I think i have forgotten to pack my running shoes, never mind i can keep the coffee warm for you all.
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and snow-forecast is predicting over a foot over the next 4 days. whooppeeee
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Yup my first time with IO
I am literally so excited today I cannot keep still!
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Jac Sprat, not my first time skiing with Inside Out but I'm pretty excited, especially having seen the latest snow forecast Happy
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rob@rar, Very Happy
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Jac Sprat, not my first time skiing with Inside Out but I'm pretty excited, especially having seen the latest snow forecast Happy


as long as the predicted winds next weekend dont come true. 60kmh up top according to sf...
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ansta1, fingers crossed. If anything spoils the fun it's usually high winds.
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http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Tignes/6day/mid
What time is the first fenicular train up to the ski area in the mornings?
Does anyone think we'll be able to ski on into the afternoon, given the temps rising Weds?
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If anything spoils the fun it's usually high winds.

all lifts were closed for one of our three days last October. A group of us went for a healthy walk and a few beers.
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franzClammer wrote:

What time is the first fenicular train up to the ski area in the mornings?


08.30 but expect a queue. If you get to the Funicular at 09.00 you will probably get up the mountain at the same time as arriving at 08.30


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Do you think the temperature rise will melt all the snow Puzzled
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No. But I understand it gets quite slushy by the afternoon on sunny days apart from north facing slopes Puzzled
Perhaps I'm misreading reviews of summer skiing Confused


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No. But I understand it gets quite slushy by the afternoon on sunny days apart from north facing slopes Puzzled


Not at this time of year.
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perfect for drills to hone the wet heavy slushy snow skills then Smile
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franzClammer, It's not worth queueing for ages and shoving and pushing to try to get onto the first funicular.
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pam w,
Yeh I've been warned about the burly slalom Evil or Very Mad racers with a sense of entitlement, so I'll just stick with the herd snowHead
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FC, have a good trip, hopefully catch you for a shandy in geneva as we crossover on Thursday.

you sorted the camera yet?
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pam w,
Yeh I've been warned about the burly slalom Evil or Very Mad racers


Most of the slalom racers are not burly and the French girls are pretty small. It's the downhill boys & girls you need to watch out for, both sexes have big thighs rolling eyes
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ansta1,
Yeh mate. Cam seems to be ok now.
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franzClammer, you have no chance alongside a couple of skinny 8 year old Italians. wink
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the wind forecast seems to have dropped somewhat - less chance of lift closures. Little Angel
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