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Chris Brookes, they might put in possibly 1 more appt block but I doubt they'd build another hotel, I also doubt they'd take out the funicular as it would be expensive to remove that and put in a different lift and the maintenance of a funicular is easy in comparison to other lift types, I suppose they could increase the ski area but I'm not sure where they'd put in extra runs.

They've been talking about putting a chairlift from the Arven base up to Eigergletscher for about 35 years but it still has not materialised, also they've actually removed some of the Wengen runs in the last 10 or so years when you'd think they would prefer to have more runs
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I think the issue with both the T-bar at Birg and the Salzegg Bowl is that they are both quite exposed areas, therefore a surface lift will continue operating whereas a chair would have to stop. This would be less of an issue at Salzegg, but at Birg, the only alternative is a black run down Shocked
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Snow details, can't give an accurate report today as they havn't posted the depths today, however on the bright side the forecast is for rain on Saturday turning to snow on Sunday and continuing to snow on and off for the rest of next week Shocked Looks promising so fingers crossed wink
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Elizabeth B, i understand the logic to it but the reasons i hate it is that my other half doesn't like skiing down the Kanonenrohr run back to Murren and hates using the T-bar back upto Birg.To be honest its a hell of a vertical pull back upto Birg and so i can understand her reservations to why she doesn't like it.

Everytime i use the Birg T-bar it brings back memories of having an accident on the old shiltgrat T-bar. I was on my honeymoon and my wife (at the time)and i fell off the T-bar,luckily my wife fell to the side but i kept sliding until i hit into two skiers coming up on it further down and ended up with a ski in my knee. I had 6 internal and 14 external stitches in my leg..The joys. rolling eyes rolling eyes I ended up spending most of the honeymoon sitting at the Jungfrau hotel watching other skiers enjoying themselves Confused Confused
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Chris Brookes, thats a similar reason to my not wanting to use the drag at Salzegg, I was the lucky one but the kid behind me let a scream go up that could be heard for miles, I think both his legs got broken and a lot of blood got spilt, shame really as the salzegg bowl often has really nice snow in it
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I've seen several pile ups at Birg...the most spectacular involving 14 people from Oak Hall....yes, they still insist on taking their beginners up there!
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Elizabeth B, I sometimes think Oak Hall should just get rid of its instructors I think the kids would be a lot safer without some of the idiots I've seen leading them Mad
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I hate to say this but the forecast is not good Sad

Rain forecast at resort level for Friday, with possibly some wet snow Saturday and Sunday, Monday looks more promising but it may turn back to rain by Wednesday

On the bright side the temps are still cold enough that the rain should fall as snow on the upper slopes, also the snow is still arround in the resort, if it has frozen any rain may run off and not take the existing snow away, if it does stay it should provide a great base for the rest of the season
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D G Orf wrote:
Elizabeth B, I sometimes think Oak Hall should just get rid of its instructors I think the kids would be a lot safer without some of the idiots I've seen leading them Mad


That's what happens when all your staff do it out of the goodness of their hearts...often you don't get the best, most experienced people.
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often you don't get the best, most experienced people

But it would be nice if they at least knew things like the skiers code and other basic safety procedures
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Fingers x.. Looking forward to getting up tomorrow morning to check out the web cams...snow is forecasted
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Luckily snow depths havn't changed all week, snow forecast for tommorow, possibly more at the end of the week, temps are not forecast to be quite so high this week so it looks as if my earlier guess that the existing snow would pack down has proved correct
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so much for the forecast of snow... Yet again snow-forecast.com got it wrong Confused Confused
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To quote my friend Beat, "Yesterdays snow falls were very little and very wet" however more snow is forecast for the weekend so we will just have to hope it appears

No changes to snow depths except there is none in Lauterbrunnen Sad
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I hope so,will be there very soon and starting to worry Confused
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Me too, Chris. i'm there in two weeks - and I'm taking a group of seven - so guess who will have to buy the beers if the snow fails to materialise. Point of interest, what depth of snow at Manlichen/ KS is the minimum for decent piste skiing.

Just so I can really focus my anxiety!!!
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Brian T, can't help you with that question im afraid as i stay in Murren but im sure when D G Orf reads this he will answer it.

Lets just hope things change SOON
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Brian T, not much 20cm will let you ski as they have been putting down artificial snow but I'd like to see about 60cm up top and 20cm in village as a reasonable covering, that can however fall in one night so only start to worry about 2 days before you go
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I'm thinking that I'll be ok in late January? Is this a late start for snow accumulation? It has been amazing for us here in Colorado, got several feet of snow over the weekend and had a great 6 days on it over the holidays.
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nextascent, just rub it in why don't you Laughing

You will be fine in late January


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nextascent, that is just SO cruel... and ironic. In europe we worry about reducing snowfall, higher temperatures, melting glaciers, and the global warming which causes them, while in the Land of the Free which allegedly is the largest contributer to global warming, you enjoy massive snowfalls. Is there no justice Confused
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nextascent, late Jan is usually pretty reliable, unfortunately no new snow at the moment so the Mannlichen will not open this weekend
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Why is it that Europe for snow is rubbish compared to the states. Puzzled

Brian T, you are so true,there is no justice

I think at the weekend i will start doing the snow dance as this aint good Confused
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Chris, snow dances are good... but remember for them to be trully effective they need to be performed naked and be caught on camara, and the resultant image posted here. Marks out of 10 for style and courage will be awarded, with bonus points over the next two days, dependant upon the depth of snow produced. The most effective dance must then be copied by all snowheads within one week to ensure massive dumps over all alpine locations.
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Brain... Laughing Laughing
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nextascent, that is just SO cruel... and ironic. In europe we worry about reducing snowfall, higher temperatures, melting glaciers, and the global warming which causes them, while in the Land of the Free which allegedly is the largest contributer to global warming, you enjoy massive snowfalls. Is there no justice Confused


Hmm very puzzling indeed, but I think I know the answer. You see, we are having all sorts of weather anomolies here this year and last few: horrible hurricanes and tonados, flooding in one area, severe drought in another. Clearly we are being punished. But I would greatly appreciate it if you didn't let on that buckets full of snow are NOT a bad thing. Shhhhh Little Angel
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Wheres the snow Puzzled Puzzled Puzzled Puzzled
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Long range forecast states.....nope,i won't go there just incase i jinx myself...
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Chris, Chris, You HAVE to tell! What does the long term forecast say? 'cause I'm arriving on the 21st and that high pressure over Wengen doesn'y seem to be moving. Give me some hope.... Puzzled
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Brian T, i can't..it might jinks us both as im arriving before you...
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Ok can you tell me then which forecast you checked? where can I find it? but I only want it if it's good news. NO No I must know. Please give me the link Please, please, please
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Brian,Im scared of letting you know because it could jinks us(its stupid i know but i need snow). I posted it here because im happy inside but don't want to rock the weather boat etc..I've looked at two very well known weather sites and they both state roughly the same as eachother.Its good snow news but fingers x
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Brian, Chris I hate to say this, but don't hold your breath waiting for the snow, possibly some on the 18th at the earliest Sad
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Mannlichen is opening this weekend - just the main piste under the gondola I suspect. They must have made enormous amounts of snow.
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Dont want to jinks it so i will say nothing on the weather...They are making snow at Birg,Schilthorn is upto 50cms now.I wonder when they will be opening Birg ?

The snow-forecast.com states in about 8 days the weather is changing around the Alps bringing in Fresh Snow !!
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Long range forecast suggests rain next thursday turning to snow by friday, however things change ! Hopefully in Murren Chris will be alright as it's another 1000 ft higher
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From Jungfrau Railways this morning:

The following transport facilities are in daily operation from 11.12.04:
- Kleine Scheidegg/Männlichen: Chairlift Arven and Männlichen
- First: Chairlift Grindel and skilift Bärgelegg
- Mürren: Allmendhubel railway and skilift Allmendhubel
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saw that, I may go on Sunday and take a look.
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Ise, if you do, remember to report back and let us know what it is like Little Angel
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Jungfrau is a nice area, was there last season.

You have to ski the shilthorn as its so steep and pretty scary! View from top is amazing also!
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