 Poster: A snowHead
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| Scarlet wrote: |
@DanishRider, I wish! I think the Danes are a lot more keen to get their jabs. The Austrians have been taken by surprise (again)  |
I think we have reached 77% now, but have no idea about how the numbers is in Austria?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Yes there were only 2 of the 3 jabs showing on my mums Nhs COVID letter. Are they really not bothering to record this information. Is that not very short sighted?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| bambionskiis wrote: |
| Just in case the 270+ day rule is still in place next year |
It's not in place now – the validity is 360 days from the last vaccination, so take your booster when you are offered it. |
Good that it’s 360. However if the Nhs app isn’t recording that 3rd jab, all of our first and second doses will be out of date next summer though.
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| DanishRider wrote: |
| I think we have reached 77% now, but have no idea about how the numbers is in Austria? |
About 64% total population (72% of those who are eligible – I'm not sure which stat your figure compares to, but it's probably the former). Full stats: https://info.gesundheitsministerium.at/impflage
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@bambionskiis, had my booster three weeks ago but not displayed yet on nhs record
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| Scarlet wrote: |
| DanishRider wrote: |
| I think we have reached 77% now, but have no idea about how the numbers is in Austria? |
About 64% total population (72% of those who are eligible – I'm not sure which stat your figure compares to, but it's probably the former). Full stats: https://info.gesundheitsministerium.at/impflage |
77% of total population 
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Has anyone booked an apartment through Sidney Riley? Just wondering as I’m thinking of booking with the company
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Booster jabs will not appear in the Covid pass section of the NHS App, presumably because the boosters are only being offered to specific age groups, so they are not part of the vaccine requirement to travel (2 doses are considered “fully vaccinated”). However if you click on GP record, then immunisations, your booster jab should show there. It may take a couple of weeks to be loaded.
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@Mazimoo, thanks for that. I’ve just downloaded the NHS app tonight which is pretty good. Glad to hear it should show up eventually then.
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Update on German entry requirements, other EU countries are also stipulating the same requirement, haven’t seen it for Austria, would imagine they will do the same :
Germany will accept the UK’s proof of COVID-19 recovery and vaccination record. If you are travelling with a printed PDF proof of vaccination status, it must date from 1 November to ensure
that the certificate can be scanned successfully, if domestic certification is required. Your NHS appointment card from vaccination centres is not designed to be used as proof of vaccination and should not be used to demonstrate your vaccine status.
Those who have recently recovered from Covid must show a positive PCR test at least 28 days old but no older than six months.
Source , https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/germany/coronavirus
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Interestingly landing at Vienna yesterday the nhs app loaded up with a we’re having problems please try later. This was 3 people back from the front of the passport / covid check. Luckily I’d got a paper print out so I’d recommend always having that or a downloaded pdf with you as backup !
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You know it makes sense.
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I can’t get my head around where we’ll be going with this next year ie over365 days after our second jabs. What happens then, given that boosters are required as immunity wanes and aren’t being offered to younger people.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| bambionskiis wrote: |
| I can’t get my head around where we’ll be going with this next year ie over365 days after our second jabs. What happens then, given that boosters are required as immunity wanes and aren’t being offered to younger people. |
I think you're worrying unnecessarily. Austria's 360 day validity policy is from your last jab, whether that was a second vaccination or a subsequent booster. Younger people in the UK may not be offered boosters at the moment, but as most will only have been vaccinated recently, their 360 days won't be up until at least next summer. At that point, they may be offered a booster, it may be deemed unnecessary, or the validity policy may have been dropped.
Changes are already being made to booster programmes – in Austria, everyone will be offered a booster, but in most cases not for 9 months, and therefore the majority would be due between Feb-May 2022. It now looks like this period is too long and they will be brought forward to 6 months, though I don't think it's official policy anywhere as yet, except Vienna.
Data improves, policies change. There is no point in even thinking about what the regulations might be in a year's time.
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| Scarlet wrote: |
| bambionskiis wrote: |
| I can’t get my head around where we’ll be going with this next year ie over365 days after our second jabs. What happens then, given that boosters are required as immunity wanes and aren’t being offered to younger people. |
I think you're worrying unnecessarily. Austria's 360 day validity policy is from your last jab, whether that was a second vaccination or a subsequent booster. Younger people in the UK may not be offered boosters at the moment, but as most will only have been vaccinated recently, their 360 days won't be up until at least next summer. At that point, they may be offered a booster, it may be deemed unnecessary, or the validity policy may have been dropped.
Changes are already being made to booster programmes – in Austria, everyone will be offered a booster, but in most cases not for 9 months, and therefore the majority would be due between Feb-May 2022. It now looks like this period is too long and they will be brought forward to 6 months, though I don't think it's official policy anywhere as yet, except Vienna.
Data improves, policies change. There is no point in even thinking about what the regulations might be in a year's time. |
Understood thanks scarlet. However as I understand it the booster won’t be recorded on the app, only on your GP website. Will that be acceptable? I think that’s unlikely. As of may next year my 360 days is up and I’ve no official proof I’ve had a booster.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@bambionskiis, In Austria, you don't need an app, so as long as you can get some kind of proof of vaccination certificate you'll be fine. If the app is working for an older vaccination, then as long as you are within 360 days of that jab, it's fine too.
People are generally going to start needing to be able to prove they've had boosters as the validity runs out on earlier jabs, but it is up to UK govt to update their policy accordingly and issue the certificates.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@Scarlet, will definitely print some copies off and we’ll be good to go at Christmas.
It’s the booster validity being left to UK government going forward that concerns me. I’ll worry about that next year I think!!
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Following on from my earlier post the requirement for your proof of vaccination has also been adopted by Austria , it must be printed after must be from after 1 November:
Demonstrating your COVID-19 status
Austria will accept the UK’s proof of COVID-19 recovery and vaccination record. If you are travelling with a printed PDF proof of vaccination status, it must date from 1 November to ensure that the certificate can be scanned successfully. Your NHS appointment card from vaccination centres is not designed to be used as proof of vaccination and should not be used to demonstrate your vaccine status.
If you are not vaccinated
If you cannot provide proof of vaccination, you must present a negative test or proof of recovery from COVID-19, and self-isolate for 10 days. You can leave self-isolation after 5 days with a new negative PCR test result. The day of entry counts as “day zero”.
For proof of a negative COVID-19 test, molecular biological test (e.g. PCR) results must be no older than 72 hours, antigen test (e.g. lateral flow) results must be no older than 48 hours, and antigen self-test results (which must be recorded in an official data processing system) must be no older than 24 hours.
For proof of recovery, you must show evidence of recovery during the past 180 days or evidence of neutralising antibodies that is no more than 90 days old.
Source : https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/austria/entry-requirements
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Scarlet wrote: |
@bambionskiis, In Austria, you don't need an app, so as long as you can get some kind of proof of vaccination certificate you'll be fine. If the app is working for an older vaccination, then as long as you are within 360 days of that jab, it's fine too.
People are generally going to start needing to be able to prove they've had boosters as the validity runs out on earlier jabs, but it is up to UK govt to update their policy accordingly and issue the certificates. |
It's 360 days from second jab, or 360 days from booster so everyone should be OK this winter.
Time to worry about next year is next year, but most likely there will be annual boosters for everyone
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Well, it seems the booster vaccine will not be reflected in the domestic or travel QR code on the app. Had a discussion with the NHS who advised the only option for anyone with a booster (frontline worker, over 50, etc) who had the vaccine early and may run out of the 360 time interval has to go to the GP to get a letter as proof; they said this letter unfortunatly will not have a QR code.
There are no plans as yet to change the app (it will only accept first and second vaccines at present) but helpfully, they said it will have to be looked at as there are now other countries besides Austria with this limit and that they have had so many calls about the issue.
Finally advised to contact back in a couple of weeks to see if there are any updates to plans.
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@ptex, that's really helpful information, thank you.
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@ptex, exactly the point I was making. We’ll all have boosters but there is no official proof that we have done so apart from a note of it on our GP online account (I can hardly ever get into mine so wouldn’t want to rely on that abroad) or the card we get given (which I doubt will be acceptable either). So, next year we’ll most of us be past the 360 days after our second vaccine and then what? My 360 days will be up in May and I’m due in Italy at my nieces wedding in July - which obviously is after the 360 officially recorded proof I have. Sorting it out now with an extra field on the app will be a million times easier than them running around like headless chickens next year acting retrospectively.
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| bambionskiis wrote: |
| @ptex, exactly the point I was making. We’ll all have boosters but there is no official proof that we have done so apart from a note of it on our GP online account (I can hardly ever get into mine so wouldn’t want to rely on that abroad) or the card we get given (which I doubt will be acceptable either). So, next year we’ll most of us be past the 360 days after our second vaccine and then what? My 360 days will be up in May and I’m due in Italy at my nieces wedding in July - which obviously is after the 360 officially recorded proof I have. Sorting it out now with an extra field on the app will be a million times easier than them running around like headless chickens next year acting retrospectively. |
The information is in the system. A simple app update will add in boosters. The app seems to be quite well designed so I am sure that they are on the case and won't wait until May and go "why hadn't we thought of that?"
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@buchanan101, I like your optimism 
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| bambionskiis wrote: |
| @buchanan101, I like your optimism |
That NHS app (not the T&T one) seems to be pretty good. It turned off my passport for a couple of weeks after I had a positive test, so I am sure they have the boosters in hand
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@buchanan101, thanks for the link, just booked my booster for 14days time, exactly 180 days from 2nd dose, at a walk in vaccination centre close to where I am working.
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You know it makes sense.
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There have been changes to the regulations in Austria announced this evening. Some of the details are not clear to me but maybe someone else can clarify. For tourists the main changes appear to be.
Access to bars, restaurants etc will now be 2G ie only for individual's who have been fully vaccinated or certified recovered (I guess this will impact on UK teenagers). I have not seen any mention of skiing but it would seem that 2G could be the rule for that too. Comments from the Tirolean Chief Minister imply that winter tourism will be covered by the 2G rule. I have not seen hotels and other types of tourist accommodation mentioned but again the implication seems to be 2G only. Some of this is supposition on my part so really needs to be confirmed.
The Green Pass will now only be valid for 9 months (down from 12) after the date of the last vaccination (this is to encourage people to get their booster jab). The Johnson & Johnson single jab will only be valid until early January 2022.
The option to have a single jab and then PCR tests is being phased out. Antibody tests also seem to be on the way out.
It is not clear if the policy of preventing people leaving districts with a particularly high incident rate (for example Landeck, which covers both St Anton & Ischgl) unless they can show a 2.5G certificate (ie only PCR tests are valid) is going to continue. The suggestion seems to be that it is simply impractical to monitor on any sort of large scale.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Plenty of queries on lack of boosters displayed on the NHS app - they're currently evaluating requirements, so presumably need to understand what the EU/rest-of-world requirements will be before implementing something which fits in with those rules
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| I have recently received my booster COVID-19 vaccination, why can’t I see it in my COVID Pass (NHS App/NHS.uk) |
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| Booster vaccinations are not required for citizens to maintain their domestic COVID Pass. We are currently exploring whether and how boosters should be incorporated into the COVID Pass for Travel. |
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Poster: A snowHead
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I’d expect they will fix the booster as the change to 270 days will scupper a lot of holidays this winter, including mine in late February.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@munich_irish, no more exit checks in Landeck etc. Apart from the manpower needed to do the checks there is also the point that there are not many places they can legally go. The option of having a single jab and a PCR test to qualify for 2G is new and only applies for the next 4 weeks to allow people time to get vaccinated.
People in UK need to be lobbying MPs etc to get the lack of booster proof incorporated into the NHS app asap, also need to fix the teenager problem. Next issue will be talk in Vienna of vaccinating 5-12s.
Last edited by Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person on Fri 5-11-21 21:27; edited 1 time in total
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Therein is a problem if you get your booster too soon it may curtail any summer exploits as a few weeks ago some countries were only allowing travel up to 180 days after your last vacc . I could get mine 15th nov but would mean i could end up being a month or so short of my next holiday entitlement after the ski trip in march but then countries may start to say to be ok to travel your booster should be within a as yet undeclared time from your 2nd
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@munich_irish, said...
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There have been changes to the regulations in Austria announced this evening....
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....The Green Pass will now only be valid for 9 months (down from 12)
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Have you got a URL for the source of that statement please, or is this just a rumour 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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The exit checks in March 2020 were so badly organised but I guess they were in a panic. A 5 hour queue. Luckily I had a hire car so wasn’t in a coach Petri dish.
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@geoffers, https://liveblog.tt.com/414/coronavirus or any other Austrian newspaper. Use googe translate to view original.
The most important thing from the press conference: These are the new measures
In view of the sharp increase in the number of infections with the state governors, the government has decided to significantly tighten the corona measures . As early as next Monday, a 2G regulation will apply in most areas of public life. This means that you can, for example, go to the restaurant, theater, concerts, sporting event or to the hairdresseronly comevaccinated or recovered . As an alternative, tests should remain possible in the workplace.
▶ ️ According to Health Minister Wolfgang Mückstein (Greens), the measures weredecided almost unanimously . Burgenland had already made it clear in advance that in view of the high vaccination rate in the state, tightening it was rejected. However, it was not officially confirmed that Governor Hans Peter Doskozil (SPÖ) was the one who had not followed the decision.
▶ ️ His Carinthian counterpart Peter Kaiser (SPÖ) pointed out that Burgenland also has apushed for measures to be withdrawn . Chancellor Alexander Schallenberg (ÖVP) assured in this regard that the step-by-step plan is not a one-way street. If a measure is no longer needed, it will be withdrawn immediately.
▶ ️ For 2G, however, is recognized in one first vaccination in connection with a PCR test transition period of four weeks . After that you have to be vaccinated twice or have recovered in the past six months.
▶ ️ The " to the proposal, the Green Pass " should only apply for nine months from the second vaccination, which should increase motivation for the third bite. The vaccination by Johnson & Johnson, originally designed as a one-time immunization, is only valid until January 3rd for the "Green Passport", provided that the vaccine has not been re-vaccinated.
▶ ️ Where a mask is worn, i.e. in shops , libraries and museumsFFP2nationwide standard . 2G applies to events from 25 people.
▶ ️ A relief was decided for the federal states. The most recently controversial because they are labor-intensiveexit controls from the districts, which applied almost nationwide in Upper Austria, are no longer applicable.
▶ ️ Federal Chancellor Alexander Schallenberg (ÖVP) described the situation as "serious". thereins for the unvaccinated would have to be tightened - also with a view to the Christmas holidays and the tourist season. In the car you buckle up the seatbelt and vaccination is the seatbelt in the pandemic. Health Minister Wolfgang Mückstein (Greens) emphasized that his task is to protect the intensive care units and that he will comply with this. Also appealed to the people: "Let's stop the tongue-in-cheek carelessness."
▶ ️ The chairman of the governor's conference , Günther Platter , agreed . For him it is a "moral obligation " to get vaccinated. For the third trick you have to accelerate. Mückstein pointed out that the effect of the vaccination began to wear off around five months after the second bite. Carinthia's governor Peter Kaiser (SPÖ) called the third vaccination more and more essential.
▶ ️ On Friday 9,388 new infections were reported in Austria , 356 people were cared for in intensive care units because of Covid-19.
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@buchanan101, this is just random checks for 3G compliance not preventing everyone from leaving the valley.
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@Chris_n, Thanks 
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Daily cases per million have now overtaken UK.
Knowing my luck, the whole country will lock down mid december
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@geoffers, I am afraid none of this are rumours. From the Süddeutsche Zeitung (behind a paywall so via Google translate)
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| In view of the rapidly increasing number of infections, a nationwide 2-G obligation will apply in Austria from Monday. This was announced by Federal Chancellor Alexander Schallenberg on Friday evening after the federal government had consulted with the federal states' chiefs. In future, only those who have been vaccinated and recovered will be allowed to visit restaurants, hotels, cultural institutions and sports facilities - the ski lifts in the winter sports region will also be reserved for them. This rule serves "as a strong incentive for people to vaccinate," said Schallenberg: "We will therefore pull the reins tighter for those who have not been vaccinated." That is still around a third of Austrians, and the low vaccination rate is considered to be the main reason that Austria's hospitals and their intensive care units had to treat more and more Covid patients in the past week. On Friday alone, almost 9,388 newly infected people were counted nationwide, the second highest value since the beginning of the pandemic. |
This specifically mentions ski lifts which I hadnt seen in the TT
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