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Avoriaz / Morzine / Les Gets / Chatel - 2009/10

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Ricklovesthepowder, Dem wus the elusive CHAMOIS, we have a herd feeds on our back field every spring. Beautifull creatures. Gareths way is about the only way to get up and see them as they are very shy creatures. Once the noisy skiers get onto that area they will be off higher, hiding away.
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Snoozie wrote:
BergenBergen, NOW it is snowing in Geneva. Big Flakes!

Which just goes to show how reliable weather forecasts can be. The Geneva GFS run from midnight shows - no snow. Very Happy rolling eyes
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andyph wrote:
Snoozie wrote:
BergenBergen, NOW it is snowing in Geneva. Big Flakes!

Which just goes to show how reliable weather forecasts can be. The Geneva GFS run from midnight shows - no snow. Very Happy rolling eyes


Snoozie, looks like you've got yourself a job.
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Ricklovesthepowder wrote:
what a great video endlessride, it looks so beautifull with nobody there, how long did than take you to walk up from ardent to the top of mossetts, bout 4 hours??? what were the animals, wild goat or something???


Paul has answered the Chamois question. As far as timings are concerned. The Ardent lift is open and so is the Chaux Fleurie. This made access to Mossettes fairly easy. It took us 2.5hrs, but we spent over an hour messing with some problem skins (they feel off 5 times).
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BoardStiffRed wrote:
endlessride, those photos look great! I'm heading for Portes du Soleil in early Jan myself and can't wait! I'm considerably lazier, and hope that lift in the photo is up and running by the time I arrive! I know this is off topic and I apologise in advance but what camera are you using? I'd like to document the adventures of Avoriaz and beyond!


Most of the pictures were taken by Sian on a Panasonic TZ6
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Panasonic/panasonic_dmczs1.asp

The quality of the shots is mostly down to her though. She's a semi-pro (people pay for her photos but she doesn't make a living from it).

http://www.flickr.com/photos/carlandsian/

The video was done on the TZ6 and the sharper stuff was done on a Sony TG3


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DaughterOfFrankInston and I ran up to the top of Mossettes from the top of Chaux Fleurie in the summer. It was a stern reminder of how steep it is!
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Absolutely AWESOME photos....thanks for sharing Smile
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Check this out for a picture postcard sunset this evening over PDS

Look particularly impressive in full screen mode

http://portesdusoleil.livecam360.com/flash/main.php
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Chuffing cold at the moment, keeping what snow there is in good condition. Local wx forecasts predicting a breakdown in the high pressure on the 22/23 Dec. A period of warmish temps forecast due to the Fohn wind; snowline between 1500m and 2000m. Hopefully this will be followed by a fall in temps again (my prediction, the forecast doesn't go that far ahead). Keeping fingers crossed.
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zzz, "chuffing" cold? as in, "chuffs", what? wink chuffing cold in Geneva my washing machine froze.
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great photo theresennion, i dont go to chatel until the 26th jan but im starting to get worried a little now. i kniw its over a month away but things are looking rather bloody grim!!!
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Ricklovesthepowder, Yes the webcam technology/quality has really moved on. I too am also getting a little worried. Snow forecast.com has over 20mm rain forecast at resort level Mon/Tue next week. I'm going out on 27th. No need to worry about 26th Jan....thats a very long way off in weather terms!
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sennion, Ricklovesthepowder, rain in the village means snow somewhere higher up. why worry?
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under a new name, like 2300m! Sad
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My heart just sank when I saw that rain prediction on snow-forecast too.Is it too much to ask for a consistant cold patch with northerly winds!!
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sennion, Ricklovesthepowder, rain in the village means snow somewhere higher up. why worry?


because the top of the slopes at avoriaz are not that much higher than the resort level. possiby 600m or so??? thats why i am starting to get slightly worried, like i said, i am feeling for those who are heading out during the next 2 weeks!!!
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Ricklovesthepowder, you only need to worry about whether those of us going shortly are going to leave you any snow Toofy Grin . It's going to snow soon. It's going to snow soon. Repeat 100 times.
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Ricklovesthepowder, ooh you little worrier! Smile the short term still looks cold with some snow due soon. From about the 22nd the runs are all over the place with the ensemble staying below the zero... don't worry or panic even for those going soon yet! I bet most people wouldn't mind it a bit warmer than the min -25c forecast for the weekend!
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Mr snowandtrek, has retired under a very large blanket trying to defrost after taking the guests out this morning. He says 'chuffing cold' is an understatement.

Pleney to open this weekend with limited pistes available - Tourist Office to confirm tomorrow if link with Les Gets also available.
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Lou wrote:
lightningdan, when do you go?

We might even have a sprinkling in our neck of the woods tonight according to local forecast just now.


Flying out with BA on Sunday, I hope. Skiiing starts Monday , I am sure all will be well, J2ski are claiming more snow coming, so I am not worrying.

The annoying thing is flew out in Jan , whenwe had snow and were delayed for 6 hours because the easy jet crew could not bother turning up for work, so booked BA, for an improved service.

Lucky me.
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lightningdan wrote:
J2ski are claiming more snow coming, so I am not worrying.
. I would Sad
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i think this forecast is chamonix but cant be too different from avoriaz etc. it looks more promising...

http://www.chamonix-meteo.com/bul/metPreMatEn.php
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saw-25, that forecast is for the area and therefore is normally pretty accurate for those averse to cut and paste you can view it here

But I agree certainly in the accurate range it's shaping up quite nicely indeed!

*ducks*
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-25 is bloody cold!!! did a tour of USA and Canada for 3 weeks this jan, stopped off an Niagara falls and the temp was -42c. it was horrendous, the falls at the top and bottom were frozen solid and nobody was out and i mean nobody, it was like a ghost town, saw 3 people at one of the worlds top tourist attractions, it was that cold a bottle of water would freeze solid like a brick before you could drink it. was rather unpleasent and the following week at killington was slightly warmer, daytime temps were -20 to -30c. snowHead snowHead snowHead
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Ricklovesthepowder, I wouldn't worry, conditions aren't bad, it has been snowing all day again, and Cham are forecasting 10-30 cms tomorrow. I'd say this isn't a bad start to the season, not amazing like last year, but not desperate either.
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BergenBergen wrote:
lightningdan wrote:
J2ski are claiming more snow coming, so I am not worrying.
. I would Sad


I cannot do any thing about it, so will make the most of what is open and whatever snow there is. These reports change all the time , and worse case senario , I go to the "La Paika" every day and enjoy the food and drink.
At least BA are letting me get there.
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lightningdan, Thats the best attitude to take, you cant change it so why worry, you can pray and the snowgods may smile on you. Lets hope its snow
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BergenBergen wrote:
lightningdan, Thats the best attitude to take, you cant change it so why worry, you can pray and the snowgods may smile on you. Lets hope its snow


I am hoping that Bastardi( accuweather) suddenly see something. But to be honest, I have been watching the reports for a month, and they are not often right. I am not the sort of quality skier that endless ride is so will take what is there. I have been advised that only 4 lifts will be open as it stands, mainly up to the learner area, but Ihave two small children who will still enjoy it.

Worse case , I have to go again!! might go high reort next time.
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It's been snowing pretty hard today, on and off. There must have fell at least a couple of inches in Avoriaz village. Visibility at the top of Chaux Fleurie was nil at 3pm, but it was worth going up just to come down on the soft fresh stuff. Doesn't half slow the descent down tho! Toofy Grin. Just come back from the pub and the skies are mainly clear, hoping for a little bit more before we head back on Saturday.
Stop bloody worrying - had a great week skiing when, apparently, there isn't enough snow!
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Its been snowing again in Les Gets this evening - road outside the chalet looks to be all white again.
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Pamski, Very Happy

Am getting in the mood (no encouragement needed though) as it's snowing heavily here now. Just got in from brief walk with dog and a couple of inches has fallen within short time. Looking forward to tomorrow morning though I don't want the boys to mess up any of my packing plans by digging out the snowGear rolling eyes Laughing Enjoy Very Happy Any news from the village? Any changes since August? Very Happy
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Snowing this morning in Morzine - parts of the mountain had over 5cm yesterday and they are foecasting +10cam of snow in the next 24hrs. Also looks snowy for Xmas day!!!!
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snowandtrek, big hug coming your way Very Happy Very Happy

In the meantime, it's VERY snowy here Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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lightningdan, high doesn't necessarily help - in early season typically requires more snow to cover rocky terrain rather than alpine meadow (which can be skiable with 20cms), less likely to be snow cannoned (as they're not needed so often) and more prone to high wind/storms/"bad" weather all of which can ruin a ski week just as easily as a lack of snow.

Case in point, 2 years ago the link between Champoluc and Gressoney (somewhere higher than 2,000m) was almost never open all season as although it snowed plenty, it was consistently windy so all the natural snow blew off and they hadn't installed cannons as they'd never needed to before...
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5pm cannot, and I repeat, CANNOT come soon enough. Geneva is like Santas Grotto this morning. Looking forward to waking up to a snowy mountain view tomorrow morning!!
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Lou wrote:
snowandtrek, big hug coming your way Very Happy Very Happy

In the meantime, it's VERY snowy here Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy



Same here , about 20-25 cm deep, and people being intelligent enough not to go to work.

The pub is walkable, so thats lunch covered.
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under a new name, lightningdan, it also depends where your chosen resort is and where the weather has been coming from. The PDS does better than it should (for its height) when there are weak fronts coming from the North, the precipitation falls on us (the first relief) and sometimes there is none left for Chamonix (it ends up in the "rain" shadow).

AND

It depends on the shape of the relief. This is why Argentiere gets more snow than it should and the Valley de la Manche and Prodains (so did sided "blocked" valleys do well).

If you have the choice - don't go "high" this Christmas, go East, that is where all the snow has been falling.

Anyway, there is way to much negativity about the weather on this forum. IMO it's not about the skiing, it's about the mountains, make the most of what they give you. Don't get fixated on the ski conditions, they'll always be some snow to play in, you just might have to go searching for it.

No skiing in these shots.....

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lightningdan, Laughing am very happy, on A/L this week anyway although work is walkable so may get a call. Trouble is, the boys have been rooting in the skibag (the only bag that was ready for our trip) so that will have to be re-done Toofy Grin
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Lou wrote:
lightningdan, Laughing am very happy, on A/L this week anyway although work is walkable so may get a call. Trouble is, the boys have been rooting in the skibag (the only bag that was ready for our trip) so that will have to be re-done Toofy Grin


I know the feeling, suddenly all the new kids stuff is "needed" When are you off?
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